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Atheist Progressive Makes Rape Threat About Conservative’s Teen Daughter

Posted on | July 10, 2014 | 143 Comments

Preston Smith (@common_alias) is an atheist progressive supporter of Hillary Clinton’s incipient 2016 presidential campaign. C. Steven Tucker (@CSteven) is a Chicago businessman, Tea Party activist and ObamaCare critic. Wednesday afternoon, Tucker sent out a Twitter message about calls to impeach President Obama. Smith responded with a sick comment — CC’d to Tucker’s wife Andrea — that appeared to be a rape threat directed at one of their teenage daughters:

Why? Beyond Smith’s perverse interpretation of an Old Testament passage, it seems Smith had devoted enough attention to his target to be able to locate Tucker’s wife’s account, showing her with the couple’s three children in the profile picture.

You can imagine how any parent would take alarm at such a comment. Tucker said he has reported Smith to law enforcement, but I’m afraid the Tuckers will be disappointed to learn that, from a legal standpoint, a comment like Smith’s is not be considered a “threat.” A threat, in the legal sense, requires that there be some reason for the target to fear that the person making the threat will actually carry it out.

In other words, if I say, “I’d like to beat Preston Smith to a bloody pulp,” that’s not a threat, legally. On the other hand, if I were to say, “I’ve got Preston Smith’s home address and I just booked my flight from Dulles to Miami tomorrow so that I can kill that vicious bastard with my bare hands” — well, the specificity of such a comment could be seen as a legitimate threat that might cause him to fear that an enraged redneck could show up at his front door with murderous intent.

The difference between these hypothetical scenarios may seem trivial legalistic hair-splitting to the layman. On the other hand, if I told you that Delta Flight 6224 left Dulles at 6:10 a.m., connnecting through Detroit via Flight 1829 to arrive at Miami International Airport before noon, you might believe I’d given it serious consideration. And if Steven Tucker posted a selfie of himself at O’Hare Airport boarding a non-stop flight to Miami, that could also be taken as indicating Preston Smith has reasonable cause to fear for his safety.

But these are just hypothetical scenarios, of course.

(Hat-tip: Big Fur Hat.)

 

Comments

143 Responses to “Atheist Progressive Makes Rape Threat About Conservative’s Teen Daughter”

  1. C Steven Tucker
    July 10th, 2014 @ 2:15 pm

    Great commentary sir. Appreciate you posting this.

  2. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    July 10th, 2014 @ 2:23 pm

    This is why I support conceal carry for law abiding American citizens.

  3. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    July 10th, 2014 @ 3:05 pm

    Looks like Progressive Democrats are still hot on the #WarOnWomen provided all the H8 is directed at conservative women.

    Here is another example.

  4. Quartermaster
    July 10th, 2014 @ 3:29 pm

    Another “Biblical Scholar” obviously. Leftists might as well give that up. They have neither the mental flexibility, nor the patience to actually engage in the hermeneutical pursuit to get at what God is really saying.

  5. Quartermaster
    July 10th, 2014 @ 3:31 pm

    Dickinson is just another DimoKKKrap sicko. I know that’s redundant.

  6. CrustyB
    July 10th, 2014 @ 4:46 pm

    I’d like to William “Action” Jackson this Preston Smith guy…in the symbolic sense, not literal sense, of course.

  7. Cube
    July 10th, 2014 @ 5:31 pm

    Yeah, it actually puts the kibosh on the hookup culture. I suspect he also didn’t notice the death penalty for rapists part. Hey progs, are you sure you want to go down the road of using Bible passages in your arguments? ‘Cause there’s nothing in there that supports ANY of your pet issues and a lot that directly criticizes large chunks of prog thought.

  8. Bob
    July 10th, 2014 @ 5:34 pm

    I really enjoy how liberals take the Bible out of context. It would appear that he decided to forget what comes right before that statement:

    23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24 you
    shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to
    death—the young woman because she was in a town and did not scream for
    help, and the man because he violated another man’s wife. You must purge
    the evil from among you.

    25 But
    if out in the country a man happens to meet a young woman pledged to be
    married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. 26 Do
    nothing to the woman; she has committed no sin deserving death. This
    case is like that of someone who attacks and murders a neighbor, 27 for the man found the young woman out in the country, and though the betrothed woman screamed, there was no one to rescue her.

  9. BibleSchmible
    July 10th, 2014 @ 5:35 pm

    yeah, you show a great deal of mental flexibility: believe every word of this old book or burn in hell regardless of whether or not you lived a good life. moron.

  10. BibleSchmible
    July 10th, 2014 @ 5:38 pm

    so basically the bible wants women stoned to death for adultery? especially if they’re virgins, too. don’t want the impure or nothing because the way God likes them! you’ve only put your foot deeper in shit and demonstrated why the bible is no longer a suitable guide for living.

  11. BibleSchmible
    July 10th, 2014 @ 5:40 pm

    It only puts the kibosh on it if you take it seriously.

  12. Adjoran
    July 10th, 2014 @ 5:40 pm

    If America hadn’t been dumbed-down and perverted over the last half century or so to the point we “tolerate” all sorts of evil in our public square, Mr. Tucker wouldn’t need to worry at all, because the decent folks in Miami would take out the trash themselves.

    Just another reminder that all leftists are filth. There is no point “seeking common ground” with them; there is none.

  13. cmdr358
    July 10th, 2014 @ 5:41 pm

    Troll Alert…Here they come!

  14. Adjoran
    July 10th, 2014 @ 5:43 pm

    Read it sometime, moron.

  15. cmdr358
    July 10th, 2014 @ 5:44 pm

    If you choose not to follow the bible then more power to you.
    Why do you feel the need to condemn it and those who choose to follow it’s teachings?

  16. Libertarian Advocate
    July 10th, 2014 @ 5:44 pm

    prog thought

    That just struck me as something of an oxymoron.

  17. cmdr358
    July 10th, 2014 @ 5:48 pm

    With heavy emphasis on the moron part.

  18. Cube
    July 10th, 2014 @ 5:52 pm

    So nothing old has any value and everyone gets to define “good” for themselves. That’s destructive short term thinking and anarchy, not mental flexibility. Who’s the moron here?

  19. Mike G.
    July 10th, 2014 @ 5:55 pm

    You ask too much. A bottom feeding, scum sucking pig like this troll is too ignorant to read a book as deep as the Bible. I’m surprised he has the ability to type.

  20. RS
    July 10th, 2014 @ 5:55 pm

    You obviously didn’t read the passage. Note that the man is put to death for rape in both instances. The woman is put to death too only if she is in an area where help is available and she refuses to seek it. In other words, the presumption is that the adultery was consensual. In a rural area where help is not available, there is a presumption that the woman was raped and therefore she is not punished.

  21. Julie Pascal
    July 10th, 2014 @ 6:02 pm

    So how did that turn into the Islamic law concept that she’s innocent only if there are three male witnesses and guilty if there are none?

  22. Guest
    July 10th, 2014 @ 6:03 pm

    I am not surprised by the actions of leftists anymore. They have their own religion with Obama as god and Hillary as high priestess and the dogma of global warming and the sacrament of abortion. I’ve never actually had a leftist threaten by family, just wish that my teen would (who isn’t gay) become a gay prostitute or that he would die painfully in my arms. You see the type of behavior daily from leftists when they’re on the internet. Pray for the them. Obama hasn’t brought secularr utopia yet so they’re beyond cranky. The God they don’t believe in is the only one who can heal such torture souls.

  23. PeterP
    July 10th, 2014 @ 6:07 pm

    He’s pro women. ROFL.

  24. Julie Pascal
    July 10th, 2014 @ 6:07 pm

    And proves the point with an inflexible answer.

    And an unbiblical understanding of salvation.

    Someone who didn’t understand scripture very well explained stuff wrong and hurt your feelings once. And maybe you’re mad that God even loves that person instead of kicking them out because they are a fallible human being. Realizing that God accepts the idiots, too, is often difficult for people.

  25. WarEagle82
    July 10th, 2014 @ 6:58 pm

    Yet another shining example of leftist “tolerance.”

    “I hate you and I want someone to rape your children and wife” really sums up the intellectual and moral emptiness that is the foundation of the DNC and their allies.

    Just more proof the 2nd Amendment is more necessary than ever.

  26. GoneWithTheWind
    July 10th, 2014 @ 7:29 pm

    only an idiot would interpret that as a rape threat. it’s intention is obviously to point out how looney biblical morality can be, and therefore the text as a whole is irrelevant.

  27. BibleSchmible
    July 10th, 2014 @ 7:31 pm

    uh, that’s exactly what I said: the bible says you should put women to death for adultery.

  28. BibleSchmible
    July 10th, 2014 @ 7:33 pm

    I have. I spent 8 years in Catholic school. it didn’t make me an atheist, but I’m definitely no longer a Christian.

  29. Dennis Mahon
    July 10th, 2014 @ 7:33 pm

    So GoneWithTheWind thinks the Jews wrote the Bible to justify rape. Good to know.

  30. Dennis Mahon
    July 10th, 2014 @ 7:34 pm

    Apparently, it turned you into an anti-Semite.

  31. BibleSchmible
    July 10th, 2014 @ 7:35 pm

    yeah, very deep: let’s stone women to death for adultery. And I have read it. I don’t disagree that there’s some wisdom in it, but not enough to follow it, and anyone can get the same wisdom from other texts and without all the baggage.

  32. GoneWithTheWind
    July 10th, 2014 @ 7:36 pm

    Yeah, that must be it.

  33. BibleSchmible
    July 10th, 2014 @ 7:38 pm

    You’ve got quite an imagination, which is saying a lot from a generally unimaginative group like modern conservatives.

  34. Dennis Mahon
    July 10th, 2014 @ 7:38 pm

    Yeah, that *is* it – your argument is that the Bible justifies rape; the Jews wrote the Bible, therefore the Jews justified rape. QED

  35. Dennis Mahon
    July 10th, 2014 @ 7:40 pm

    Said the anti-Semite…a group known for their imaginations…

  36. bibleschmible
    July 10th, 2014 @ 7:44 pm

    um, no. I didn’t turn from religion because someone hurt my feelings. I turned from it(not that I ever accepted in the first place)because it’s nonsense, dated, and does little to address contemporary life. how any intellectually curious person could believe in judeo/Christianity is a great wonder. Your attempt at condescension was trite, too.

  37. bibleschmible
    July 10th, 2014 @ 7:48 pm

    of course some traditions have value, but that’s not he’s talking about. he expects a literal reading of scripture otherwise it’s the lake of fire. and you can honor traditions without the eye in the sky and all the baggage. and what are you saying? without the bible telling us bad from good we won’t know? lol!

  38. bibleschmible
    July 10th, 2014 @ 7:49 pm

    and i don’t believe in God. perhaps there’s some higher power but the judeo/Christian interpretation of it is pure bollocks.

  39. GoneWind
    July 10th, 2014 @ 7:51 pm

    yeah, apparently. what turned you into an idiot? I’m guessing you were just born that way.

  40. GoneWind
    July 10th, 2014 @ 7:53 pm

    yeah, that’s exactly what I was thinking when I wrote that comment! you’re a genius! Dumbass. did you not notice I’m mocking you?

  41. Dennis Mahon
    July 10th, 2014 @ 7:54 pm

    I’m an idiot because you’re an anti-Semite. Your logic does leave one dizzy.

  42. bibleschmible
    July 10th, 2014 @ 7:55 pm

    you kids get too much summer vacation. it’s obviously hampering you, doofus.

  43. Dennis Mahon
    July 10th, 2014 @ 7:56 pm

    Yes, but, as with your interpretation of Scripture, you do a piss-poor job of it. Common characteristic among anti-Semites

  44. GoneWind
    July 10th, 2014 @ 7:57 pm

    time to give up drinking Dennis .

  45. Dennis Mahon
    July 10th, 2014 @ 7:57 pm

    Maybe I should spend more time reading The Protocols of the Elders of Zion – it’s obviously done wonders for you.

  46. Dennis Mahon
    July 10th, 2014 @ 7:59 pm

    I wish I was drinking – you’d be less of an annoying putz.

  47. GoneWind
    July 10th, 2014 @ 7:59 pm

    You reasoning is quite poor(ie. I criticize a passage of the bible so I hate Jews). Really, dude? that’s dumb even by your low standards.

  48. GoneWind
    July 10th, 2014 @ 8:01 pm

    Not nearly as annoying as you. you argue like an annoying child.

  49. GoneWind
    July 10th, 2014 @ 8:01 pm

    Can’t mom just put you on Ritalin, or to bed?

  50. Dennis Mahon
    July 10th, 2014 @ 8:02 pm

    My reasoning is poor because you claim the Bible justifies rape, and by extension, since the Jews wrote Deuteronomy, the Jews justified rape.