U.S.-Backed Subversion in Israel?

Posted on | January 28, 2015 | 126 Comments

Alana Goodman at the Free Beacon reports astonishing news:

A U.S. State Department-funded group is financing an Israeli campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and has hired former Obama aides to help with its grassroots organizing efforts.
U.S.-based activist group OneVoice International has partnered with V15, an “independent grassroots movement” in Israel that is actively opposing Netanyahu’s party in the upcoming elections, Ha’aretz reported on Monday. Former national field director for President Obama’s 2012 reelection campaign Jeremy Bird is also reportedly involved in the effort.
OneVoice development and grants officer Christina Taler said the group would be working with V15 on voter registration and get-out-the-vote efforts but would not engage in overtly partisan activities. She said OneVoice and V15 are still formalizing the partnership.
While V15 has not endorsed any particular candidates, it is working to oppose Netanyahu in the March elections.

Barack Obama and John Kerry need to answer for this.

(Hat-tip: Memeorandum.)

Category: Israel

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126 Responses to “U.S.-Backed Subversion in Israel?”

kilo6
January 28th, 2015 @ 3:42 pm

Unfortunately countries have been messing with each other’s business since forever. Please don’t misconstrue this as an endorsement of 0bamas activities or the practice itself.
One notable case of the side effects of political interference with allies is Christopher Boyce, convicted spy who worked for TRW in the 1970s and became the antihero of the 1985 film The Falcon and The Snowman. According to his account, which I read about 20 years ago so please forgive any gaps or errors, one of the things which caused his ideological “flip” was his reading misrouted classified message traffic about US interference in Australian elections which was possibly related to Aussie politicians objections to the joint US/AUS intelligence operations in Australia.
Quartermaster
January 28th, 2015 @ 3:44 pm

Willie got Barak. but, as Abba Eben said, “The Palestinians never miss and opportunity to miss and opportunity.”
Quartermaster
January 28th, 2015 @ 3:48 pm

If Old Hickory were around and had the power, he’d hang the entire membership of his former party. He’d do it with glee.

He could certainly say the Party left him. He’d want them gone for what they had done to his party.
Evi L. Bloggerlady
January 28th, 2015 @ 3:48 pm

https://twitter.com/MsEBL/status/560537688160223232

At least this Israeli Hating anti Semite is calling it quits.
Zohydro
January 28th, 2015 @ 3:53 pm

O…M…G…
Evi L. Bloggerlady
January 28th, 2015 @ 4:28 pm

Feel free to retweet it often because that # is trending.
Wombat_socho
January 28th, 2015 @ 4:59 pm

For certain values of “working”, I guess it still is.
RS
January 28th, 2015 @ 5:13 pm

Sometime in the last few hours, s/he’s made his/her Disqus activity private. I read the activity when the troll first showed up. Similar stuff.
RS
January 28th, 2015 @ 5:16 pm

It’s funny. Most Christians do not understand the difference between Dispensationalism and Substitution Theology. Every politically aware Israeli I met did.
Evi L. Bloggerlady
January 28th, 2015 @ 5:23 pm

https://twitter.com/MsEBL/status/560563551601823744

Here is the pg 13 version
Zohydro
January 28th, 2015 @ 5:38 pm

Alrighty then, you can stop now… I’ve no more tank tape or superglue left to hold m’arse on and ribs together!
Pete Mitchell
January 28th, 2015 @ 5:44 pm

Jews in the US just don’t care about Israel that much. In poll after poll, their cares tend to be more about things like “income inequality” and “universal healthcare”.
Finrod Felagund
January 28th, 2015 @ 7:01 pm

I took to Dispensationalism like a fish to water when I first learned about it. Didn’t hurt any that my New Scofield Reference Bible had notes written from a dispensationalist point of view.
Matt_SE
January 28th, 2015 @ 7:13 pm

Hey, didn’t the CIA used to do this sort of thing? The CIA, that bastion of fair play and liberal values…
Southern Air Pirate
January 28th, 2015 @ 8:01 pm

Actually, yes just as other intelligence services throughout history used to do similar sort of subtrafuge to get political parties voted in that were friendly to thier terms or cause overthrow of whole governments to get friendly or at least commonly aligned governments in.
Quartermaster
January 28th, 2015 @ 8:06 pm

Depends on what you define as Christian. Most people that call themselves Christian, aren’t. This gets driven home when you consider that something over 80% of the US population call themselves Christian, but people Like Pelosi, Kerry and Obama get elected.
RS
January 28th, 2015 @ 8:28 pm

I used it in a larger, cultural sense. However, even if we confine the term to a more limited number, the differences between the two camps tend to be thought of as rather esoteric doctrine. I disagree with that view, of course, as I think a great deal of European history–or at least the ostensible theological props for a lot of European history–are attributable the dispensationalist/substitution divide.
K-Bob
January 28th, 2015 @ 8:51 pm

OneVoice
OneParty
OneWorldGovernment
OneBootToTheFaceForever
Quartermaster
January 28th, 2015 @ 8:57 pm

I’m not quite willing to say that substutionism is heresy, but it’s really close if not. While I think most don’t realize they are doing it, or don’t do it intentionally, they are actually saying God is a liar.
RS
January 28th, 2015 @ 9:40 pm

I’ve always explained the difference as “How do you answer the question, ‘Does God keep his promises?.'”
Jim R
January 29th, 2015 @ 12:14 am

They’ve got an answer: The don’t dislike Israelis as Jews; they dislike them as vicious, brutal, murderous occupiers who massacre helpless, peace-loving Palestinians and steal their land.

I’d wager that many liberal American Jews more-or-less secretly agree with this.
Dana
January 29th, 2015 @ 6:31 am

And Prime Minister Barak agreed to the compromise President Clinton negotiated; it was Yassir Arafat who rejected it.

President Clinton said that Mr Arafat was a fool, and rejected the best deal he could ever hope to get, which is true enough, but ignores one thing: if Mr Arafat had agreed to it, Hamas or one of the other irredentist groups would have killed him. The lesson of the assassination of Anwar al-Sadat was not lost!
Dana
January 29th, 2015 @ 6:32 am

I think that might sound better in German.
DocEpador
January 29th, 2015 @ 7:16 am

Considering all the Government sponsored subversion of elections in the good ol USA since at least 2008, this exported commodity should come as no surprise. If there were only a way to tax it…
Rob Crawford
January 29th, 2015 @ 8:28 am

Or Arabic: “Islam” is the direct translation.
Phil_McG
January 29th, 2015 @ 8:31 am

Good thing the Israelis never try to influence US elections.
Dana
January 29th, 2015 @ 8:51 am

Ein volk, ein reich, ein Führer!
Gunga
January 29th, 2015 @ 9:04 am

BINGO!
K-Bob
January 29th, 2015 @ 9:10 am

Oh yeah! Shouted in strident tones would be nice.
Art Deco
January 29th, 2015 @ 10:12 am

If the polls referred to in Ha’aretz are prescient, what will happen is some minor shuffling of seats from one coarse category to another, i.e. the Arab parties will gain a seat; the Jewish red haze / watermelon bloc will hold its own; the Jewish religious parties will hold their own with some shuffling one to the other; this year’s equivocator parties will lose a seat; the Labor / Tzipi bloc will gain three seats; and the nationalist parties will lose two seats with the balance of forces shifting toward the Jewish Home, the most militant of them. The Labor Party cannot swing it unless they break with custom and add the Arab parties to the coalition or somehow manage to persuade the equivocator parties to sit in the same coalition with the Orthodox parties. IIRC, one of the equivocator parties is pissy secular, so that seems a stretch.
Matt_SE
January 29th, 2015 @ 10:48 am

US Jews vote something like 80% Democrat, and most of those are secular. They are unlikely to listen to anything Israel says, and if they do, it will only count toward Democratic primaries.
Zohydro
January 29th, 2015 @ 11:11 am

??????? ????? ????, ?????????????!
RS
January 29th, 2015 @ 11:37 am

Dude. I majored in German. I taught German. All nouns are capitalized. I would have deducted points for misspelling “Volk” and “Reich.” Good job on the umlaut though. #mizzouedumacated

: )
TotallyPeeved
January 29th, 2015 @ 11:54 am

Mossad, I’m begging you…
Dana
January 29th, 2015 @ 12:04 pm

????? ??????, ???????!

? ??????? ??????? ? ???????????? ????????.
Dana
January 29th, 2015 @ 12:09 pm

President Jackson was the first, and only, President to actually pay off the national debt, which makes him about as far apart from the Democrats of today as one could ever be!
Quartermaster
January 29th, 2015 @ 12:27 pm

You mean the one that goes,
Ein Volk
Ein Reich….
That one?
Wombat_socho
January 29th, 2015 @ 12:31 pm

Drugs must have worn off,
Quartermaster
January 29th, 2015 @ 12:33 pm

The original Democrats were quite conservative. The Whigs and GOP were libtards. Now both parties are libtard parties.
Wombat_socho
January 29th, 2015 @ 12:35 pm

On the other hand, he also said “Mr. [Chief Justice] Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it.” Sound familiar?
Quartermaster
January 29th, 2015 @ 12:35 pm

Frankly, if I were Bibi and could identify the agents, I’d jail them until after the election was over than release them and be quite apologetic on how it was all just a misunderstanding. If I won, I’d throw a big bash and be sure to invite Obama and the US Ambassador.
Dana
January 29th, 2015 @ 12:40 pm

But they are occasionally reachable. In 1980, after he shepherded through the Camp David accords, Jimmy Carter still lost the Jewish vote to Ronald Reagan. It’s just that it takes an extremely bad Democrat to lose the Jewish vote.
Quartermaster
January 29th, 2015 @ 12:40 pm

A lot of people don’t realize the court’s writ actually runs only in the courts themselves. The Executive must agree with them before it will actually be enforced outside. That was why the founders viewed the courts as the weakest branch. Only because the others have rolled over have the courts acquired their outsized influence. The courts have often been lawless, but now they are almost completely so.
Quartermaster
January 29th, 2015 @ 12:41 pm

The US Jewish vote has moved further to the left since Carter’s misrule.
Zohydro
January 29th, 2015 @ 1:57 pm

?… ???? ?????????!
Dana
January 29th, 2015 @ 3:04 pm

Actually, when I entered “I studied Russian at the University of Kentucky,” Google got it wrong. I used Google translate, because my keyboard doesn’t have Cyrillic characters. I spotted the error, because I actually do know (some) Russian, and went back in to type in “I studied the Russian language at the University of Kentucky,” and got the correct translation. The verbs to know and to study take the form ??????? ????, while to speak takes the form ??-??????.

Had I matriculated at the University of Missouri, I’d never have known that.
Gunga
January 29th, 2015 @ 3:18 pm

Jimmy Carter was a very good Democrat. He’s just a very bad American and an abomination as a President…and as bad as he was at being President, he’s even worse at being an ex-President (IMHO).
Zohydro
January 29th, 2015 @ 4:06 pm

Yet a Misery grad would know that ALL German nouns are CAPITALISED… ; )

(Dija see my comment at Journal14.com ?)
RS
January 29th, 2015 @ 5:11 pm

…and as bad as he was at being President, he’s even worse at being an ex-President…

He was vying for the “worst” in both categories. Alas, for us, the current occupant of the Oval Office has surpassed him in the “serving President” category, methinks.
Quartermaster
January 29th, 2015 @ 6:57 pm

Do you mean Klansmen like these?