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‘Hit-It-and-Quit-It on Tinder’

Posted on | August 31, 2015 | 184 Comments

Online dating apps are fueling an “apocalypse” of hook-up culture, Nancy Jo Sales reports in a frightening Vanity Fair feature:

[Alex] says that he himself has slept with five different women he met on Tinder — “Tinderellas,” the guys call them — in the last eight days. Dan and Marty, also Alex’s roommates in a shiny high-rise apartment building near Wall Street, can vouch for that. In fact, they can remember whom Alex has slept with in the past week more readily than he can.
“Brittany, Morgan, Amber,” Marty says, counting on his fingers. “Oh, and the Russian — Ukrainian?”
“Ukrainian,” Alex confirms. “She works at—” He says the name of a high-end art auction house. Asked what these women are like, he shrugs. “I could offer a résumé, but that’s about it … Works at J. Crew; senior at Parsons; junior at Pace; works in finance … ”
“We don’t know what the girls are like,” Marty says.
“And they don’t know us,” says Alex.

Hey, guys, let’s add a word to your vocabulary: Herpes.

Did you know that herpes is incurable, and that condoms don’t protect against herpes? You could ask Ella Dawson to explain this to you. Ms. Dawson was a student at Wesleyan University (annual tuition $47,972) who said she “never had unprotected sex,” but experienced a “tidal wave of shame” when she was diagnosed with a herpes infection. (Ms. Dawson graduated in 2014 with a bachelor of arts in Feminist, Gender, and Sexuality Studies, “theorizing the feminist possibilities of erotica,” so I guess that makes her an expert of sorts.) A 2010 report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that the herpes rate “was nearly twice as high among women (21%) as men (11%), and more than three times higher among African-Americans (39%) than whites (12%). The infection rate among African-American women was 48%.” For obvious reasons, promiscuity increases the risk of infection, and the CDC found that about 27% of those who reported 10 or more partners are infected with herpes.

So while Alex is congratulating himself on hooking up with five “Tinderellas” in the span of eight days, he should perhaps be thinking in terms of epidemiology. Yet the herpes virus may ultimately be less harmful than the emotional damage inflicted by mindless promiscuity:

Marty, who prefers Hinge to Tinder (“Hinge is my thing”), is no slouch at “racking up girls.” He says he’s slept with 30 to 40 women in the last year: “I sort of play that I could be a boyfriend kind of guy,” in order to win them over, “but then they start wanting me to care more … and I just don’t.”

See? Marty understands the game he’s playing. Pretend that you’re emotionally available — “a boyfriend kind of guy” — and “racking up girls” via online hook-up sites is not difficult nowadays for any reasonably attractive young man. The more a guy succeeds at that cynical game, however, the lower his estimation of women in general, because each “win” for him just proves how easily girls can be deceived. No amount of feminist “consciousness raising” can change the fundamental reality of human nature. Casual sex is a game in which guys have a decisive advantage, and therefore any girl who plays that game is a fool. When so many young women are willing to play this foolish game, however, it produces a culture shift that hurts women:

“It’s rare for a woman of our generation to meet a man who treats her like a priority instead of an option,” wrote Erica Gordon on the Gen Y Web site Elite Daily, in 2014.
It is the very abundance of options provided by online dating which may be making men less inclined to treat any particular woman as a “priority,” according to David Buss, a professor of psychology at the University of Texas at Austin who specializes in the evolution of human sexuality. “Apps like Tinder and OkCupid give people the impression that there are thousands or millions of potential mates out there,” Buss says. “One dimension of this is the impact it has on men’s psychology. When there is a surplus of women, or a perceived surplus of women, the whole mating system tends to shift towards short-term dating. Marriages become unstable. Divorces increase. Men don’t have to commit, so they pursue a short-term mating strategy. Men are making that shift, and women are forced to go along with it in order to mate at all.”
“For young women the problem in navigating sexuality and relationships is still gender inequality,” says Elizabeth Armstrong, a professor of sociology at the University of Michigan who specializes in sexuality and gender. “Young women complain that young men still have the power to decide when something is going to be serious and when something is not — they can go, ‘She’s girlfriend material, she’s hookup material.’ … There is still a pervasive double standard. We need to puzzle out why women have made more strides in the public arena than in the private arena.”

Will feminists ever wake up and realize that human nature is an immutable reality impervious to ideology? Viewing sexual problems as a quasi-Marxist struggle between two classes — men and women as collective groups — does not necessarily help any individual woman and may arguably make her life more difficult. Strategies recommended by feminist ideology may seem to “work” for lesbian sociology professors who view all males as hostile and dangerous, but political rhetoric about “gender inequality” doesn’t help the college girl trying to negotiate personal relationships. Are we to believe that Professor Armstrong (author of the 2002 book Forging Gay Identities) is best qualified to advise young heterosexual women on how to find a guy who will treat her right? Nancy Jo Sales reports the anecdotal evidence:

At a table in the front, six young women have met up for an after-work drink. They’re seniors from Boston College, all in New York for summer internships, ranging from work in a medical-research lab to a luxury department store. They’re attractive and fashionable, with bright eyes highlighted with dark eyeliner wings. None of them are in relationships, they say. I ask them how they’re finding New York dating.
“New York guys, from our experience, they’re not really looking for girlfriends,” says the blonde named Reese. “They’re just looking for hit-it-and-quit-it on Tinder.”
“People send really creepy s–t on it,” says Jane, the serious one.
“I think that iPhones and dating apps have really changed the way that dating happens for our generation,” says Stephanie, the one with an arm full of bracelets.
“There is no dating. There’s no relationships,” says Amanda, the tall elegant one. “They’re rare. You can have a fling that could last like seven, eight months and you could never actually call someone your ‘boyfriend.’ [Hooking up] is a lot easier. No one gets hurt — well, not on the surface.” . . .
They say they think their own anxiety about intimacy comes from having “grown up on social media,” so “we don’t know how to talk to each other face-to-face.” . . .
“It seems like the girls don’t have any control over the situation, and it should not be like that at all,” Fallon says.
“It’s a contest to see who cares less, and guys win a lot at caring less,” Amanda says.
“Sex should stem from emotional intimacy, and it’s the opposite with us right now, and I think it really is kind of destroying females’ self-images,” says Fallon.
“It’s body first, personality second,” says Stephanie.
“Honestly, I feel like the body doesn’t even matter to them as long as you’re willing,” says Reese. “It’s that bad.”
“But if you say any of this out loud, it’s like you’re weak, you’re not independent, you somehow missed the whole memo about third-wave feminism,” says Amanda.

No, ma’am. You got the memo. It’s just that you seem to be smart enough to realize that the memo was completely wrong. What feminist ideology tells young women they should do — being sexually “empowered” and expecting this empowerment to lead to “equality” in their relationships — is the exact opposite of what common sense based on an actual knowledge of human nature would advise them to do.

The accumulated wisdom of centuries still holds true. If you want to be loved, be lovable, and if you want to be respected, be respectable. As I tell young women, don’t just “play hard to get,” be hard to get. A girl who acts like trash thereby forfeits the right to complain that guys treat her like trash. One of the worst things feminism has done is to attack the sexual “double standard” by encouraging women to lower their standards, to screw around heedlessly and to view short-term “relationships” as an acceptable substitute for actual commitment.

This strategy of “equality” doesn’t work to women’s advantage. It has never worked and will never work, and any girl who plays that game is a fool. Yet feminism teaches women to blame men for taking advantage of the foolishness that feminists themselves encourage. If millions of women are on Tinder offering themselves as hook-up partners, how are men to blame if they react to “a perceived surplus of women” by playing that game? “Hit it and quit it.”

Certainly, I would never advise my kids to play that game. No decent parent would ever want their daughter to be offering herself to random strangers online, and decent parents would be horrified if their son brought home a woman he’d picked up that way. “Tinder trash” for a daughter-in-law? No, son. Leave those trashy women alone.

Remember that herpes is incurable, 21% of women are infected, and I’ll bet the rate of herpes infection is even higher on Tinder.

(Hat-tip: Donald Douglas on Twitter.)





 

Category: Sex Trouble

Comments

184 Responses to “‘Hit-It-and-Quit-It on Tinder’”

  1. Dana
    August 31st, 2015 @ 4:10 pm

    Everybody’s fetish is tall blondes!

    OK, OK, I married a short brunette . . . .

  2. robertstacymccain
    August 31st, 2015 @ 4:11 pm

    “The statistic that this howler monkey in corduroy isn’t looking at is, that it is only the top fifteen percent of men that are invited to the feast. The other 85% get the big Left Swipe.”

    To re-visit what I said elsewhere in the comments: Never play a game in which the rules are rigged against you.

    This is true whether you are male or female, and is highly relevant to Tinder, but also relevant to many other things. Certain people (the top 15% or whatever) have all the advantages in any situation. Yet if you keep your mind firmly on playing your game — rather than being forced into playng a game chosen by someone else — you can still be a winner. This is why learning to resist peer pressure (“everybody does it this way”) is so important to success.

    When I see PUA blogs giving advice on picking up women, I get angry because (a) if a move is really good, you destroy its value by sharing it widely, (b) a lot of PUA advice seems to be based on the idea that women enjoy being treated like crap, and (c) once women learn to recognize something as a “move,” that move becomes self-defeating, because you’re acting like a stereotype.

    OK, so what is to be gained by Tinder? If you’re “top 15%” you don’t even need it, because you’ve got no shortage of opportunity to meet quality partners wherever you go in real life, and there is no way any woman with an ounce of self-respect is going to be hooking up with dudes via online apps. So it’s basically users, losers and freaks hooking up with other users, losers and freaks. Why do you need a dating app to find users, losers and freaks? They’re everywhere.

    It’s the quality partners who are hard to find, so unless you’re just eager to contract herpes, why waste your time? Most young people who are screwing around have no idea of the epidemiological risks involved. They don’t realize (a) how common STDs are, (b) what serious harms STDs can cause, (c) how the risk increases exponentially as you increase the number of partners, and especially (d) CONDOMS DON’T GUARANTEE “SAFE SEX.”

    The “safe sex” advice giving to young people — call it Condom-Mania — originated in the 1980s as a protocol against the AIDS epidemic. Because AIDS is spread specifically through body fluids, then consistent condom usage could seriously reduce (although not entirely eliminate) the risk of spreading the disease. Yet, as I say, condoms are much less effective against herpes, which can be spread by skin contact, and condoms are never 100% safe.

    But stop and think about this: Do we want to teach girls to model their behavior on what hedonistic promiscuous gay men were during in bathhouses in the 1970s? Is it “liberating” for women to be used as a source of cheap thrills? Isn’t it true that women suffer devastating gynecological harm from diseases like chlyamidia (which can impair or destroy fertility) and HPV (which causes cervical cancer) that aren’t a considered a major concern by gay men? And isn’t it also true that women generally suffer greater emotional and psychological harms from promiscuity than do men?

    I’m not trying to being a fear-monger, but I am saying that much of the advice young people get about sex, love and relationships is so disastrously wrong that it would be much smarter just to ignore everything you see in the media on these subjects and instead live as if the Book of Leviticus were legally binding. Old-fashioned advice is the best advice, because old-fashioned love is the best love.

  3. Blue
    August 31st, 2015 @ 4:13 pm

    They’re both duds. If there is one thing I learned as I get older is that twenty something men are totally inept in bed. Hopefully one of these poor bastards finds a good woman to teach them a thing, or two. alex is also absolutely terrified of intimacy, and a relationship, but listening to a lot of 20 something women who nitpick men incessantly, and see them as institutional oppressers, I’m not surprised he’s going for one, and done.

  4. Mike G.
    August 31st, 2015 @ 4:15 pm

    I met both wives in social situations… ok, I met them in bars.

    I did it the old fashioned way. I struck up a conversation and it went on from there. Exchanging phone numbers and asking for a date, ect.

    Been married to number two for 16 years and counting.

  5. Joe Guelph
    August 31st, 2015 @ 4:17 pm

    Box was my favorite character. The late, great Roscoe Lee Browne voiced the berserk android.

  6. Son of Liberty
    August 31st, 2015 @ 4:18 pm

    Pornography has been around since there was people. Early cave paintaings, carvings, writings, stag films. Some have even gone into what is considered today to be hardcore, and even worse in the case of Marques de Sade and similar writings.

    The lack of personal responsibility is a relatively recent phenomenon, caused by the progressive “blame someone/something else” mentality.

  7. robertstacymccain
    August 31st, 2015 @ 4:18 pm

    “If I were to become suddenly single …”

    God forbid! I remember being “out there” and thinking that married people were missing out on the fun. Then I got married and after a while I realized that the last thing I’d ever want is to have to be “out there” again. It is insane for anyone in a reasonably good marriage ever to envy single people. You may think the grass is greener on the other side of the fence, and you might have fantasies about what it would be like to go cavorting off in search of erotic adventure, but loneliness and perpetual insecurity are not really adventurous.

  8. robertstacymccain
    August 31st, 2015 @ 4:22 pm

    Depends on the quality of his genetic stock.

    High-quality DNA is always a valuable commodity.

    Did I mention I’m a father of six? That two of my kids married at ages 21 and 22? That I’m already a grandfather?

    The prime product always finds a ready market.

  9. Blue
    August 31st, 2015 @ 4:37 pm

    I know how long forms of pornography have been around. But to compare cave paintings, the homes of the rich who might have had erotic art works(both of which were still hand drawn images) or a literate class of people who read De Sade to the reach of the Internet is once again, absurd. And stating “personal responsibility” doesn’t make the argument go away. Pornography is now deeply embedded in our culture, and to dismiss its influence is ridiculous. Pornographic attitudes toward sex have infiltrated music, film, TV, etc. Second, Porn like any other entertainment works on novelty, so the porn gets more and more degrading, and extreme as the customer burns out on what was once considered arousing. The glut of porn, and it’s reach has only sped this process up.

  10. robertstacymccain
    August 31st, 2015 @ 4:47 pm

    “Blaming pornography for sexual maladies is like the left blaming guns for crime.”

    Sorry, this is where my social conservatism puts me in agrreement with radical feminists. Pornography is inherently degrading, and it can also be addictive. There are guys whose lives have been destroyed by porn addiction, and there are women who are badly harmed either by their participation in the production of porn or by the brutality of men whose minds have been warped by massive exposure to porn.

    Even if I am enough of a libertarian to see the problems involved in trying to legally prohibit the production and distribution of (most) porn, you cannot convince me that porn is harmless. There is serious evidence that porn is seriously harmful, and so even if we cannot legally prohibit porn, we should always condemn it and discourage people from becoming involved in porn. The Golden Rule applies here: If I wouldn’t want my daughter to be a porn star, then I would not want my son watching your daughter perform in porn.

    Some things we may be required to tolerate in a free society, but we cannot be required to praise something merely because it must be tolerated.

  11. Son of Liberty
    August 31st, 2015 @ 4:53 pm

    Personal responsibility is not some accessory to this subject. It is key. Most people should know the difference between fantasy and reality, and still many people do. Blaming fantasy does not make the problem go away. Encouraging critical thinking and discouraging mindless indulgence will.

    It is a concept not popular with left or some elements of the right. For differing reasons, but with the same ends.

  12. RKae
    August 31st, 2015 @ 4:58 pm

    I don’t think people get addicted to guns. I don’t think people’s personalities and perceptions can be altered by guns. I don’t think children are affected adversely when they see a gun. I don’t think guns worsen conditions when their prevalence increases.

    Porn does all this.

    Libertarians would have us believe that a kid in 1970 finding a Playboy magazine in the garage, is exactly the same as a kid in 2015 finding a billion images of torture porn on the internet.

    But porn is a toxin: the more exposure, the more damage.

  13. RKae
    August 31st, 2015 @ 5:00 pm

    The “success” of the war on drugs is that if someone sells your kid heroin you can have that person arrested.

    The problem with the war on drugs is that it’s not a war. “War” should not be a euphemism. We should fight to win. We should napalm cocaine producers. Most importantly, we should hang corrupt cops as traitors.

  14. RKae
    August 31st, 2015 @ 5:03 pm

    And there it is! The libertarian “it’s all the same” argument!

    To say that a cave painting is the same as a billion images of torture porn is insane.

    If it’s all the same, then all this technology isn’t much of an advancement, is it?

  15. Blue
    August 31st, 2015 @ 5:05 pm

    So, you’re saying that people who view porn seven days a week, and fantasize about degrading sex acts don’t bring a single one of these thoughts to
    a real sexual encounter, or relationship, and settle for straight up missionary when their brain has been lit up with all kinds of novel sex acts? Absurd. I can’t even tell you how many guys I’ve known who wish their girlfriend was more of a “slut” in bed, and “fucked like a porn star”. What does this even have to do with personal responsibility?

  16. RKae
    August 31st, 2015 @ 5:07 pm

    And, conversely, the notion that “nothing else is ever to blame” is a weird belief that nothing in life has any effect.

    Any person’s beliefs or personality can be overwhelmed and altered, and we should recognize the things that have the power to do that.

  17. Blue
    August 31st, 2015 @ 5:15 pm

    It’s an absurd argument to say porn has no effect on real world relationships when young people raised on Internet porn are just as promiscuous, and shameless about sex as porn actors, and are requesting the same exact sex acts found in most pornography. personal choice is an absurd argument when the effect is like being socialized and indoctrinated through pornography.

  18. Blue
    August 31st, 2015 @ 5:21 pm

    I hate to admit that sometimes I think radical feminists are right, and far smarter than their liberal feminist peers.

  19. Quartermaster
    August 31st, 2015 @ 6:27 pm

    I don’t know what that is, and I doubt, very seriously, I even want to know.

  20. Quartermaster
    August 31st, 2015 @ 6:33 pm

    A number of years ago I saw the statistics on divorce. About 70% of divorces were filed by women. About 25% were filed by men in self defense against a woman that made life unbearable. The other 5% were the “traditional” guy divorcing the wife to marry is secretary thing.

  21. Quartermaster
    August 31st, 2015 @ 6:36 pm

    Given Disney’s trajectory, that would probably be giving them ideas.

  22. Quartermaster
    August 31st, 2015 @ 6:37 pm

    They would have to stay with that woman because everyone is different and likes things enough different to make the guy inept with any other woman. A good sex life is to be found only with the bonds of a proper marriage.

  23. Quartermaster
    August 31st, 2015 @ 6:40 pm

    For sinful man it isn’t facile, it’s on the button. That’s a problem of the fallen condition and societal mores are the only barrier against that trash escaping captivity. Once the barriers are torn down, Katy bar the door, because there will be no end until it all gets burned to the ground, or you get conquered by a morally stronger people.

  24. Quartermaster
    August 31st, 2015 @ 6:52 pm

    Why not? If you’re going to hook up with a stranger, why go through something like Tender, or some other pimping app, when you can the guy in the flesh and make a relatively informed judgment about committing fornication then and there? You’re probably less likely to find yourself locked in with some psychotic pervert as well.

    Regardless, it’s a bad idea no matter which way you look at it, or how you obtain your partner in literal crime.

  25. Quartermaster
    August 31st, 2015 @ 6:55 pm

    What’s wrong with a short brunette? remember the song,

    “…a 101 pounds of fun, that’s my little honey bun….”

  26. Bob Belvedere
    August 31st, 2015 @ 6:59 pm

    Goddamn brilliant.

  27. Daniel Freeman
    August 31st, 2015 @ 7:04 pm

    I’m playing Devil’s advocate here just to hear your reasoning, not saying that you’re wrong.

    1. How would sex with your fiance damage your eventual marriage? What is the mechanism?

    2. If pre-marital sex is damaging for both sexes, then why do so many women notoriously find male virginity suspicious and off-putting? When I was in high school, I read enough of my mom’s and sister’s romance novels (when out of library books of my own) to know that a sexually experienced man is consistenty part of the fantasy, and I find it hard to believe that women prefer damaged men.

  28. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    August 31st, 2015 @ 7:17 pm

    https://twitter.com/MsEBL/status/638487158882340864

  29. Bob Belvedere
    August 31st, 2015 @ 7:22 pm

    This is why a song like For The Good Times resonates more with me these days than any love song by, say, Taylor Swift.

  30. mole
    August 31st, 2015 @ 7:28 pm

    There is an old book which might be well worth a read called ‘And the band played on”, it was a thoroughly unsympathetic look at the beginning of the AIDs academic from a gay journalist who lived and reported at ground zero, San Francisco.
    A fair bit is dated now particularly some of the theories but one bit always stuck in my mind.
    Early in the book he describes an epidemiologist describing what would be her nightmare scenario for a new disease. Long incubation time, sexualy transmitted and infectious before symptoms became apparent. Until AIDs STDs were accepted as “normal” in the gay community, after all you just went to the doctor, they gave you some pills and it cleared up.

    Theres a terrible parallel in this tinder thing, and there will be a price to pay.

    Also the top 15% of blokes that were pulling the chicks 20 years ago were limited much more by mobility and finances, going to a bar/club to pick up wasnt cheap. Now it is.

    I went and had a look on “plenty of fish” a dating site (Im single and in a remote area, very limited ability to travel) and you know what sticks out there, single mothers, probably 3/4 (at least in my old home town). The site offers free searching so pop in your own area and see if the single mum thing is prevalent in your area.

  31. Dana
    August 31st, 2015 @ 7:35 pm

    I can’t say anything bad about my 5′ tall brunette! After all, she’s put up with me for 36 years, 3 months and 12 days, and I wouldn’t trade her in.

    I’m 6’2″ and I always figured I’d marry a taller girl, and I once dated a girl a couple inches taller than me. She was a total babe, but, Alas! it turned out that I was a lot more interested in her than she was with me. In the end, I wound up with the right woman.

  32. mole
    August 31st, 2015 @ 7:42 pm

    It relies on making people think its unacceptable to judge others by their actions.

    If you saw someone drinking themselves into a stupor every day you would judge them as an alcoholic, you might be interested enough to want to help them or to sort out their pathology, but you would still quite rightly judge them.

    If you see a bloke being a serial dad then you would quite rightly judge him as a no-good asshole who people should be warned against.

    You get a girl who has 3 kids from 5 different fathers (working out paternity is like asking which tooth on the bandsaw did the cut) and suddenly you arent supposed to judge her by her actions?
    Bullshit.

  33. DavidD
    August 31st, 2015 @ 7:54 pm

    ” ‘Young women complain that young men still have the power to decide when something is going to be serious and when something is not….’ ”

    So “equality” is taking decision-making away from males; got it.

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  35. Bob Belvedere
    August 31st, 2015 @ 7:55 pm

    Forget Tinder, ladies and gents: try a little tenderness.

  36. M. Thompson
    August 31st, 2015 @ 8:05 pm

    As a recently married type, I can say that yes, I did see a hell of a lot of single mothers on those sites.

  37. robertstacymccain
    August 31st, 2015 @ 8:33 pm

    Oh, absolutely. Liberal feminism can be summarized simply:
    “Got a vagina? Vote Democrat!”
    Liberal feminism is nothing but the Ladies Auxilliary of the Democrat Party, whereas radical feminists actually believe in something — nearly all of which is completely crazy, but at least it’s an honest kind of crazy, whereas someone like Hillary Clinton has zero principles.

  38. Daniel Freeman
    August 31st, 2015 @ 9:04 pm

    Ah! That tickle at the back of my brain finally brought forth the memory of a strange little subculture of gay men who sleep with HIV+ on purpose. I can’t imagine that bug-chasers extend much beyond that group.

  39. Isa
    August 31st, 2015 @ 9:12 pm

    my church, despite its flaws, has made its stance on the gay marriage bullcrap quite clear and it’s not going along with it.

    too many churches are freaking obssessed with being popular. being popular at the expense of Heaven is BULL. CRAP. that’s not me saying that; it’s in the Bible. Mark 8:36. popularity is overrated, and it’s too much work.

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    August 31st, 2015 @ 10:28 pm

    Ahhh… Otis. Poor, Ol’ Dead Otis/heavy sigh

    Otis makes me melancholy

    Cal me misterpitiful

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  42. John Rose
    September 1st, 2015 @ 6:07 am

    Even better is when you take Humanae Vitae in context with the OTHER side.

    From what I’ve read, the prevailing wisdom saw absolutely no downside to the largest branch of Christianity embracing contraception. Women would be happier, men would be more loyal (after all, now action would be possible without the possibility of pregnancy).

    It is sad, but frankly impressive, to see the comparison between the predictive value of the world’s wisdom, and that of the Vicar of Christ. Death, and Life. Choose wisely.

  43. Matthew W
    September 1st, 2015 @ 6:26 am

    WOW !!
    Those herpes numbers are staggering.

  44. Quartermaster
    September 1st, 2015 @ 6:49 am

    I’d rather sit on the Dock of the Bay.

  45. Quartermaster
    September 1st, 2015 @ 6:53 am

    Yeah, now I remember the reference. It’s been too long since I saw the term and just forgot it. Thanks for reminding me 🙁

  46. Dana
    September 1st, 2015 @ 6:57 am

    Uhhh, men give plenty of “elevated social status” to other men who have scored a lot.

  47. Sandtiger
    September 1st, 2015 @ 6:59 am

    Gemma Brown (GARB)@ComicHideout

    @rsmccain Is your daughter not an individual with her own freedom to choose? If my Dad said this I would use the list as a tickbox challenge

    My answer:
    Yes, my daughters were/are human beings, with their own rights. And they made their choices within the framework of knowing MY rules and the consequences for breaking them. Your response reflects a thoughless, reflexive feministic rebelliousness against proper authority. MY daughters understood that my rules were also for their protection, not merely a restriction or punishment. My house, my rules, never broken without consequence. If they’d treated it as a “tickbox challenge” as you suggest, they understood that it wiould signal to me that they were ready to move out and give up my financial and emotional support, although I would still love them always. In my mind, my role as the Father represented either a pillar of strength or merely a piggy bank. I chose strength and reliability.
    They are now out on their own, having avoided the peer-pressure minefields in high school and college, without tattoos, facial piercings, etc. (I allowed occasional purple hair, provided that it washed out). There was no Tinder then, thankfully, and they both received meaningful degrees, not “Navel-gazing studies.”

  48. Dana
    September 1st, 2015 @ 6:59 am

    With few exceptions, half of us will become “suddenly single” when our wives or husbands predecease us.

  49. Quartermaster
    September 1st, 2015 @ 7:05 am

    A man who is sexually experienced coming to the marital bed is damaged goods. The damage is different in the man than it is with the woman, but it is there nonetheless.
    Romance novels are just printed porn for women. They yield a mindset just as damaging in a woman as you will get with a man looking to screw anything in a skirt. Pre-marital sexual experience is like a lot of sin. It give pleasure, but Satan knows you’re setting yourself up for failure down the line.
    As for #1, the problem seems to come from the damage lack of patience causes. The first experience on the wedding night prevents the questions on that point. This is not from personal observation and experience, but from things I’ve read. Given that so few approach marriage without sexual experience these days, there may be other factors involved which I know nothing of.

  50. Prime Director
    September 1st, 2015 @ 8:26 am

    Waste of time

    Never shoulda left his home in Georgia