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Kentucky Pro-Lifers Accuse Rand Paul of Faking His ‘100%’ Pro-Life Credentials

Posted on | April 22, 2010 | 40 Comments

Press release from Kentucky Right to Life:

In a recent fund raising letter from the Rand Paul U.S. Senate Campaign, Rand Paul claims that he “scored 100%” on the Kentucky Right to Life PAC pro-life survey.
Rand Paul filled out, signed and faxed the KRLA PAC survey to the KRLA PAC office on February 11th at 10:29 am. Rand Paul did not score 100% on the questionnaire.
This is one reason why Rand Paul was not eligible for the Kentucky Right to Life PAC Endorsement for the U.S. Senate seat.

KRL-PAC provides documentation that Paul omitted an answer to one of the questions on the survey. The Cincinnati Enquirer reports:

In a recent fund raising letter from the Rand Paul U.S. Senate Campaign, Rand Paul claims that he “scored 100%” on the Kentucky Right to Life PAC pro-life survey.
Kentucky Right to Life is the largest pro-life group in the state. In February, its PAC endorsed Secretary of State Trey Grayson of Boone County in the Republican U.S. Senate primary.
“Trey Grayson has always been 100 percent pro-life. He’s demonstrated it by being chairman of the board of the pro-life New Hope Center” in Crestview Hills, said PAC Treasurer Susan Kenney.
She said PAC had concerns with statements Paul has made about the morning-after pill and a claim that he “probably would” support a ban on partial birth abortion.

(Hat-tip: Lisa Graas.) Meanwhile, Sarah Palin appears in Paul’s new TV commercial:

And to be “fair and balanced,” here’s an ad for Paul’s GOP primary opponent, Trey Grayson:

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Comments

40 Responses to “Kentucky Pro-Lifers Accuse Rand Paul of Faking His ‘100%’ Pro-Life Credentials”

  1. Lisa Graas
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 7:37 pm

    Thanks, Stacy. Fair and balanced.

    In the nineties I served as KRLA PAC co-chair. In all honesty………….I’m furious.

    Thank you again.

  2. Lisa Graas
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 2:37 pm

    Thanks, Stacy. Fair and balanced.

    In the nineties I served as KRLA PAC co-chair. In all honesty………….I’m furious.

    Thank you again.

  3. Lisa Graas
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 7:40 pm

    You actually missed the biggest part of this story, though. KRLA has pretty much proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Paul submitted false documentation to the press to besmirch their reputation. There is far more to the story than how he responded to the questionnaire. How he responded is pretty much a moot point now. I doubt he will ever be endorsed by KRLA again after he’s smeared them.

  4. Lisa Graas
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 2:40 pm

    You actually missed the biggest part of this story, though. KRLA has pretty much proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Paul submitted false documentation to the press to besmirch their reputation. There is far more to the story than how he responded to the questionnaire. How he responded is pretty much a moot point now. I doubt he will ever be endorsed by KRLA again after he’s smeared them.

  5. Brian
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 7:50 pm

    Frankly, the pro-life movement isn’t about being pro-life. It’s about being sufficiently “Conservative” and a staunch supporter of the GOP.

    Has the pro-life movement in this country condemned the death of Iraqi and Afghani children because of a war they (pro-life Conservatives/Republicans) wholeheartedly support? Apparently these children are unfortunate circumstances of war.

  6. Brian
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 2:50 pm

    Frankly, the pro-life movement isn’t about being pro-life. It’s about being sufficiently “Conservative” and a staunch supporter of the GOP.

    Has the pro-life movement in this country condemned the death of Iraqi and Afghani children because of a war they (pro-life Conservatives/Republicans) wholeheartedly support? Apparently these children are unfortunate circumstances of war.

  7. Bannor
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 7:53 pm

    Looks like I might need to pay more attention to the Kentucky primary it looks like it has everything. All these allegations of fraud and cronyism, why can’t you have a nice civil uncomplicated primary like us here in Florida… On second thought forget I said anything.

  8. Bannor
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 2:53 pm

    Looks like I might need to pay more attention to the Kentucky primary it looks like it has everything. All these allegations of fraud and cronyism, why can’t you have a nice civil uncomplicated primary like us here in Florida… On second thought forget I said anything.

  9. Estragon
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 8:05 pm

    Since 2007 at least, Rand Paul has given literally hundreds of speeches around the country demonstrating that he basically supports his Dad’s Libertarian foreign policy: no foreign basing of troops or involvement in any way outside our borders except in response to a direct attack on the homeland. No military aid to our allies, no covert ops, no nothing.

    It is an isolationist and dangerous policy which, had it been in force after World War II, would have allowed the Soviets to take over the world without us lifting a finger to stop them – until they started coming up the Mississippi River in rowboats, at which point Ron and Rand would permit us to take pot-shots at them from the banks.

    The moral of the story for conservatives is that we need to look beyond what a candidate wants us to hear, and see if we can determine what he actually believes on all the important issues. Ron Paul sounds great on fiscal policy, just like Rand – until you realize he is one of the biggest earmarkers, and only votes “NO!” on the final appropriations bills after his pork is securely planted and the bill is certain to pass, so he can fool the gullible into thinking he’s “against wasteful and unconstitutional spending.” He is not.

    Please don’t be fooled by Libertines in conservative clothing.

  10. Estragon
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 3:05 pm

    Since 2007 at least, Rand Paul has given literally hundreds of speeches around the country demonstrating that he basically supports his Dad’s Libertarian foreign policy: no foreign basing of troops or involvement in any way outside our borders except in response to a direct attack on the homeland. No military aid to our allies, no covert ops, no nothing.

    It is an isolationist and dangerous policy which, had it been in force after World War II, would have allowed the Soviets to take over the world without us lifting a finger to stop them – until they started coming up the Mississippi River in rowboats, at which point Ron and Rand would permit us to take pot-shots at them from the banks.

    The moral of the story for conservatives is that we need to look beyond what a candidate wants us to hear, and see if we can determine what he actually believes on all the important issues. Ron Paul sounds great on fiscal policy, just like Rand – until you realize he is one of the biggest earmarkers, and only votes “NO!” on the final appropriations bills after his pork is securely planted and the bill is certain to pass, so he can fool the gullible into thinking he’s “against wasteful and unconstitutional spending.” He is not.

    Please don’t be fooled by Libertines in conservative clothing.

  11. chuck cross
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 8:07 pm

    Did he check “No”? Or did he goof and skip one?

    I guess I’d be far more concerned if there was an “X” in the No column.

  12. chuck cross
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 3:07 pm

    Did he check “No”? Or did he goof and skip one?

    I guess I’d be far more concerned if there was an “X” in the No column.

  13. chuck cross
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 8:15 pm

    @ 6 — Whoa, Bea Himmelfarb, is that you channeling the master himself?

  14. chuck cross
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 3:15 pm

    @ 6 — Whoa, Bea Himmelfarb, is that you channeling the master himself?

  15. Dangerous Dan
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 9:53 pm

    As a Kentucky Republican with a libertarian slant I entertained the thought of voting for Rand Paul next month. However, there’s just something, some little voice telling me to not do it. Go with the mainstream guy, Grayson.

    So I’m going with my gut on this one and voting for Grayson. Actually, I prefer Bunnning, but…

  16. Kentucky Colonel
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 9:53 pm

    Stacey, Lisa Graas is a petty vindictive woman. She had a total meltdown when Palin endorsed Paul instead of endorsing her candidate Bill Johnson.

    To many of the people in Kentucky who have followed her, Graas has become a big joke, and a bad one at that.

    Grayson changed his party affiliation, but hasn’t changed his stripes. He’s depending on McConnell’s coattails to drag him into office. My son and daughter went to school with him and both have dealt with him, both in and out of politics, and he’s a weasel that will fit in perfectly with the other vermin in Washington.

  17. Dangerous Dan
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 4:53 pm

    As a Kentucky Republican with a libertarian slant I entertained the thought of voting for Rand Paul next month. However, there’s just something, some little voice telling me to not do it. Go with the mainstream guy, Grayson.

    So I’m going with my gut on this one and voting for Grayson. Actually, I prefer Bunnning, but…

  18. Kentucky Colonel
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 4:53 pm

    Stacey, Lisa Graas is a petty vindictive woman. She had a total meltdown when Palin endorsed Paul instead of endorsing her candidate Bill Johnson.

    To many of the people in Kentucky who have followed her, Graas has become a big joke, and a bad one at that.

    Grayson changed his party affiliation, but hasn’t changed his stripes. He’s depending on McConnell’s coattails to drag him into office. My son and daughter went to school with him and both have dealt with him, both in and out of politics, and he’s a weasel that will fit in perfectly with the other vermin in Washington.

  19. Dan
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 9:58 pm

    Having crazy-lady Graas as a source is having no source at all.

    Besides, who the hell appointed KRTL the grand arbitrators of who is(n’t) 100% pro-life?

  20. Dan
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 4:58 pm

    Having crazy-lady Graas as a source is having no source at all.

    Besides, who the hell appointed KRTL the grand arbitrators of who is(n’t) 100% pro-life?

  21. Brian
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 10:16 pm

    Wow Estragon. You really don’t understand Ron Paul’s view on foreign policy or defense. And just like most good GOPers you have no idea what the difference is between a earmark and pork.

    Then again this post was about abortion and of course just like the good, mindless automaton of the GOP you changed the subject to smear that which you know little about. Nice job with GWB by the way.

  22. Brian
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 5:16 pm

    Wow Estragon. You really don’t understand Ron Paul’s view on foreign policy or defense. And just like most good GOPers you have no idea what the difference is between a earmark and pork.

    Then again this post was about abortion and of course just like the good, mindless automaton of the GOP you changed the subject to smear that which you know little about. Nice job with GWB by the way.

  23. Brian
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 10:42 pm

    Another thing Estragon. How in the world can you GOPers consider Ron Paul’s foreign policy isolationist? I mean, North Korea is isolationist right? Ron Paul’s idea is to have fair trade with all, friendship with those who will have it and diplomacy first. How is that isolationist? Are you so baptized in the conservative’s militant foreign policy views that you are unable to see how having our military loiter in other people’s countries might, you know, piss them off? Do you really believe we have some right to stick our military wherever we want just because we are the mighty (arrogant) USA? Are all of you phony conservatives afraid of your own shadow as well as all of the boogy men you party invents?

  24. Brian
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 5:42 pm

    Another thing Estragon. How in the world can you GOPers consider Ron Paul’s foreign policy isolationist? I mean, North Korea is isolationist right? Ron Paul’s idea is to have fair trade with all, friendship with those who will have it and diplomacy first. How is that isolationist? Are you so baptized in the conservative’s militant foreign policy views that you are unable to see how having our military loiter in other people’s countries might, you know, piss them off? Do you really believe we have some right to stick our military wherever we want just because we are the mighty (arrogant) USA? Are all of you phony conservatives afraid of your own shadow as well as all of the boogy men you party invents?

  25. chuck cross
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 11:59 pm

    Just doing a little research, it looks like KRTL has been in the Grayson camp for a while, and the commenter Lisa Graas has some sort of grudge against Rand Paul, right or wrong.

    I swear I saw a poll a couple weeks ago by Rasmussen/SurveyUSA/someone that showed Paul with a pretty sizable lead. It leads me to wonder if I am getting a little sucked in on internet-propaganda that is detached from reality in the State of KY.

    Ehh, who knows.

  26. chuck cross
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 6:59 pm

    Just doing a little research, it looks like KRTL has been in the Grayson camp for a while, and the commenter Lisa Graas has some sort of grudge against Rand Paul, right or wrong.

    I swear I saw a poll a couple weeks ago by Rasmussen/SurveyUSA/someone that showed Paul with a pretty sizable lead. It leads me to wonder if I am getting a little sucked in on internet-propaganda that is detached from reality in the State of KY.

    Ehh, who knows.

  27. Quartermaster
    April 23rd, 2010 @ 12:29 am

    Daddy Paul is not isolationist, he’s a non-interventionist. There is a very large difference. Ron Paul goes a bit far in completely calling the troops home. I would maintain bases so you would already have the support structure you need if you are forced to go to war, but we don’t have to stick our noses into everything and sundry when our interests aren’t at stake.

    Many of old Cold Warriors who thought going into Iraq was a bad idea when “W” did it got read out of the party by the moronic Frum when we didn’t see anything to go into Iraq for (I don’t think W set out to deceive us, however. They just had bad data). The Afghani Taliban, however, was harboring our enemies and I was all for going in there.

    The Paul/Grayson battle really boils down to the outsider vs the establishment. The establishment has done a very poor job in Congress for many years and they need to be punished seriously. Grayson is one point where that message needs to be sent. I know of no reason to say that Paul is out of the conservative mainstream (which is different than the Neo-Conservative mainstream, and is little more than Wilsonian Democrat interventionism).

    McConnell needs to be sent home as well when he comes up for re-election, as does most of the Republicans in Congress right now. The entire Republican establishment needs to be out on the street. They have served the country very poorly.

  28. Quartermaster
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 7:29 pm

    Daddy Paul is not isolationist, he’s a non-interventionist. There is a very large difference. Ron Paul goes a bit far in completely calling the troops home. I would maintain bases so you would already have the support structure you need if you are forced to go to war, but we don’t have to stick our noses into everything and sundry when our interests aren’t at stake.

    Many of old Cold Warriors who thought going into Iraq was a bad idea when “W” did it got read out of the party by the moronic Frum when we didn’t see anything to go into Iraq for (I don’t think W set out to deceive us, however. They just had bad data). The Afghani Taliban, however, was harboring our enemies and I was all for going in there.

    The Paul/Grayson battle really boils down to the outsider vs the establishment. The establishment has done a very poor job in Congress for many years and they need to be punished seriously. Grayson is one point where that message needs to be sent. I know of no reason to say that Paul is out of the conservative mainstream (which is different than the Neo-Conservative mainstream, and is little more than Wilsonian Democrat interventionism).

    McConnell needs to be sent home as well when he comes up for re-election, as does most of the Republicans in Congress right now. The entire Republican establishment needs to be out on the street. They have served the country very poorly.

  29. Jared23
    April 23rd, 2010 @ 2:21 am

    I inspected the document from the PAC and I believe it has been edited. It’s real simple to do. All you need is white out and then make a photocopy of it. Since a fax comes in looking like a phtotocopy you could never tell if you were looking at the original. The reason I think it’s fake is because you can see the line under the yes box is jagged and looks like it’s been gone over with a pen. In all honesty they endorsed Grayson and I’m sure donated money to his campaign. So I think most people would question the integrity of this group after looking at the facts. Plus they issued a press release to smear Paul. If Paul really ommitted a comment he would have said. Sorry I was really busy and I meant to answer the question this way. So where is Pauls motivation?

  30. Jared23
    April 22nd, 2010 @ 9:21 pm

    I inspected the document from the PAC and I believe it has been edited. It’s real simple to do. All you need is white out and then make a photocopy of it. Since a fax comes in looking like a phtotocopy you could never tell if you were looking at the original. The reason I think it’s fake is because you can see the line under the yes box is jagged and looks like it’s been gone over with a pen. In all honesty they endorsed Grayson and I’m sure donated money to his campaign. So I think most people would question the integrity of this group after looking at the facts. Plus they issued a press release to smear Paul. If Paul really ommitted a comment he would have said. Sorry I was really busy and I meant to answer the question this way. So where is Pauls motivation?

  31. Lisa Graas
    April 23rd, 2010 @ 5:22 am

    They also say I’m a socialist Canadian lesbian on welfare who goes around suing businesses to make money……..conspiracy theories from Liberty Forest.

    I was KRLA-PAC co-chair in the nineties. Read my blog for more on the story if you’re interested, but here’s the overview:

    First, based on KRLA endorsement policy, Rand Paul wouldn’t be endorsed even if he answered 100% pro-life because he’s never served in office and has never been active in the pro-life movement. Grayson has been our Sec of State and served on the board of a crisis pregnancy center, plus he’s been endorsed before. Again, even if he answered all the questions correctly, he wouldn’t be endorsed as a matter of policy.

    Rand Paul skipped one of the questions on the questionnaire………..yet he put out a fundraising letter stating that he had answered 100%. In other words, he used the KRLA name to raise money for his campaign.

    KRLA was thereby forced to issue a press release saying, no, he didn’t answer 100%. They have a faxed copy and the original which Rand Paul had mailed to them and have invited reporters to come in and examine it.

    The Paul campaign gave an electronic copy of the questionnaire, with all questions answered, to the press and said that KRLA was being “dishonest” and playing “political games”.

    As you can see, the issue is not how he answered the questionnaire. The issue is that he lied, forged and smeared the largest, oldest pro-life organization in the state of Kentucky………….and all the while using their name and reputation to raise money for his campaign.

    Now, go ahead and tell me I have a grudge against Rand Paul. Tell the world I’m really not even American and that I am on welfare and am a lesbian, socialist. Tell them I’m into bestiality and like to eat children if you want. You’re not going to win this election by smearing me or by smearing KRLA. And if you do win the election, you’ll have defeated the pro-life candidate. There’s not honor in that.

  32. Lisa Graas
    April 23rd, 2010 @ 12:22 am

    They also say I’m a socialist Canadian lesbian on welfare who goes around suing businesses to make money……..conspiracy theories from Liberty Forest.

    I was KRLA-PAC co-chair in the nineties. Read my blog for more on the story if you’re interested, but here’s the overview:

    First, based on KRLA endorsement policy, Rand Paul wouldn’t be endorsed even if he answered 100% pro-life because he’s never served in office and has never been active in the pro-life movement. Grayson has been our Sec of State and served on the board of a crisis pregnancy center, plus he’s been endorsed before. Again, even if he answered all the questions correctly, he wouldn’t be endorsed as a matter of policy.

    Rand Paul skipped one of the questions on the questionnaire………..yet he put out a fundraising letter stating that he had answered 100%. In other words, he used the KRLA name to raise money for his campaign.

    KRLA was thereby forced to issue a press release saying, no, he didn’t answer 100%. They have a faxed copy and the original which Rand Paul had mailed to them and have invited reporters to come in and examine it.

    The Paul campaign gave an electronic copy of the questionnaire, with all questions answered, to the press and said that KRLA was being “dishonest” and playing “political games”.

    As you can see, the issue is not how he answered the questionnaire. The issue is that he lied, forged and smeared the largest, oldest pro-life organization in the state of Kentucky………….and all the while using their name and reputation to raise money for his campaign.

    Now, go ahead and tell me I have a grudge against Rand Paul. Tell the world I’m really not even American and that I am on welfare and am a lesbian, socialist. Tell them I’m into bestiality and like to eat children if you want. You’re not going to win this election by smearing me or by smearing KRLA. And if you do win the election, you’ll have defeated the pro-life candidate. There’s not honor in that.

  33. Led
    April 23rd, 2010 @ 9:33 pm

    I understand that Rand Paul just forgot to answer question #9 on his website.

    He has since corrected the problem and finished filling out the entire questionnaire without missing questions and it is posted on his website.

    This is really a nonissue

  34. Led
    April 23rd, 2010 @ 4:33 pm

    I understand that Rand Paul just forgot to answer question #9 on his website.

    He has since corrected the problem and finished filling out the entire questionnaire without missing questions and it is posted on his website.

    This is really a nonissue

  35. Rae
    April 29th, 2010 @ 10:56 pm

    Kentucky pro-lifers might want to ask themselves why an abortion lobbyist is funding the Grayson campaign:

    http://micadaily.blogspot.com/2010/04/trey-grayson-switches-teams.html

  36. Rae
    April 29th, 2010 @ 5:56 pm

    Kentucky pro-lifers might want to ask themselves why an abortion lobbyist is funding the Grayson campaign:

    http://micadaily.blogspot.com/2010/04/trey-grayson-switches-teams.html

  37. Lisa Graas
    April 29th, 2010 @ 9:07 pm
  38. Lisa Graas
    April 30th, 2010 @ 2:07 am
  39. Kojocaro
    August 10th, 2010 @ 12:32 pm

    trey grayson is pro-choice slime get over it

  40. Kojocaro
    August 10th, 2010 @ 8:32 am

    trey grayson is pro-choice slime get over it