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Shoot the Dirty Anarchist Scum!

Posted on | May 12, 2010 | 12 Comments

That’s what I kept shouting at my computer screen while watching this video of the 1999 WTO riots, the notorious “Battle in Seattle”:

Seattle is No. 7 on the “10 Worst Riots in American History” list — which includes video of Chicago cops cracking the skulls of hippie peaceniks at the 1968 Democratic National Convention.

Category: Crime, Video

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12 Responses to “Shoot the Dirty Anarchist Scum!”

  1. Joe
    May 12th, 2010 @ 5:25 pm

    Too much coffee!

  2. Joe
    May 12th, 2010 @ 12:25 pm

    Too much coffee!

  3. Joe
    May 12th, 2010 @ 5:45 pm

    That is an interesting list.

    The Newark riots left blocks of that city in ruins–many of which are still only parking lots or empty brick strewn fields.

    Wasn’t McArthur and the calvary riding against the WWI veterans camped out on the mall a riot? I am not sure if it should be but let me raise that. That did not get on the list.

    I have no idea how big the Stonewall incident was (as an impact on the city as a whole), but I am not sure that event was anything like the other riots on that list (did those gays really burn cars and buildings, break windows, or destroy or steal property? Or just kiss and grope each other and generally gross out the straight people in the village at the time). Is a demonstration a riot? Civil disobiedence is not a riot, chaos and uncivil disobiedence is a riot.

    Interesting fact is the Stonewall Bar was owned by the Mafia. Making money off whoever they could.

  4. Joe
    May 12th, 2010 @ 12:45 pm

    That is an interesting list.

    The Newark riots left blocks of that city in ruins–many of which are still only parking lots or empty brick strewn fields.

    Wasn’t McArthur and the calvary riding against the WWI veterans camped out on the mall a riot? I am not sure if it should be but let me raise that. That did not get on the list.

    I have no idea how big the Stonewall incident was (as an impact on the city as a whole), but I am not sure that event was anything like the other riots on that list (did those gays really burn cars and buildings, break windows, or destroy or steal property? Or just kiss and grope each other and generally gross out the straight people in the village at the time). Is a demonstration a riot? Civil disobiedence is not a riot, chaos and uncivil disobiedence is a riot.

    Interesting fact is the Stonewall Bar was owned by the Mafia. Making money off whoever they could.

  5. Mrs. Kissell
    May 12th, 2010 @ 7:11 pm

    Joe is smoking or shooting, and it isn’t tobacco or a 1911 Colt .45.

    Most of the perps in Seattle, and certainly the core of them, belonged to an anarchist group out of Oregon, if memory serves from Corvallis or Eugene areas, ex/semi-“student” types such as loiter around University of Washington and I suppose many others around the country.

    But there were home-grown specimens also in attendance. The center of Seattle’s business district is a short down-hill walk from Capitol Hill, Seattle’s Castro District, and it is convenient for cheats and idlers squatting there to join any fracas that gets going so near to them.

    In fact this “riot” occurred in exactly that area, Westlake Park between Fourth and Fifth Avenues and Pike and Pine Streets, also the location of the nation’s earliest Tea Party Rallies (thanks to local Keli Carendar).

    That’s also the location for countless Bush Derangement Syndrome rallies as well as some La Raza and other irredentist rallies, most of which march south from there to the Federal Building at 2nd and Marion. Most of these show more sex-addict (Rainbow) tells than communitarian/socialist ones.

    The WTO riot was nothing near a riot by Watts, Newark and more recent riot metrics. It was well-organized and coolly directed at well-chosen targets. They were not slouches who pulled it off. But the locals are just too deep in their hookahs and bath houses and racism to give much of a follow-on effect to such vanguard actions. So it didn’t “spill over” into other areas of the city.

    Additionally, the tactical response by SPD was handled by a then-Chief who lost his job over it. PC (Perfectly Capitulated) Seattle-style, let the little sweeties to their thing, they’re just a bit grumpy today, they’ll get over it. The Chief’s name was Stamper, Norm Stamper, if I recall correctly.

    Finally Metro Transit (my employer at the time) was ordered to ring the WTO meeting location with buses to prevent the grumpy sweeties from getting in there. I think it was the Weston Hotel, but memory is fuzzy there. I think one of the buses was tilted over, or they tried to, forget exactly.

    All needless, of course, if tactical pressure had been applied early and decisively, as well it could have been.

    Finally, the little darlings sat down in the intersection of 5th and Pine and Stamper let them alone finally until someone decided enough was enough. Probably the little sweeties had to get a Starbucks and relieve nature, so they wandered off. Police *helped* them a bit but nowhere near would they could and should have. And others broke windows and roughed up people, including police if I recall correctly.

    But it was nothing like the synergistic orgies of violence seen in black riots.

    The riots of the Bonus March were communist riots. The original marchers were WWI Veterans seeking handout during the Depression but were soon taken over by Communist agitators, who, along with heat and lack of sanitation, turned the Veterans violent. The federal government was actually threatened, which was the point of the Communist agitation.

    MacArthur was asked by the President to clear the mob from the Capitol area. He could have given the job to a subordinate, whose career would have been over directly after. So he took personal command, and took with him as a staff officer a young Dwight D. Eisenhower. Using the blunt side of sabers, Army Horse cleared the area per Presidential order.

    And Communists forever after hated MacArthur, as well they should. He stopped them over and over and over right up to and including whipping a series of Red Chinese Field Armies with a vastly inferior force (in numbers) — the reason he was relieved, he wasn’t supposed to beat them.

    At the WTO riot Communists, allied with straight anarchists, tried direct action to ignite a general rebellion. Historically, they are more successful going a slow indirect rebellion by taking over groups such as the Bonus Marchers, Greenpeace, Sierra Club, Nature Conservancy, “climate research,” Democratic Party, etc.

    We need more MacArthurs in positions where they can stop the crap when ordered — and C-i-Cs who believe in stopping the crap instead of making it.

  6. Mrs. Kissell
    May 12th, 2010 @ 2:11 pm

    Joe is smoking or shooting, and it isn’t tobacco or a 1911 Colt .45.

    Most of the perps in Seattle, and certainly the core of them, belonged to an anarchist group out of Oregon, if memory serves from Corvallis or Eugene areas, ex/semi-“student” types such as loiter around University of Washington and I suppose many others around the country.

    But there were home-grown specimens also in attendance. The center of Seattle’s business district is a short down-hill walk from Capitol Hill, Seattle’s Castro District, and it is convenient for cheats and idlers squatting there to join any fracas that gets going so near to them.

    In fact this “riot” occurred in exactly that area, Westlake Park between Fourth and Fifth Avenues and Pike and Pine Streets, also the location of the nation’s earliest Tea Party Rallies (thanks to local Keli Carendar).

    That’s also the location for countless Bush Derangement Syndrome rallies as well as some La Raza and other irredentist rallies, most of which march south from there to the Federal Building at 2nd and Marion. Most of these show more sex-addict (Rainbow) tells than communitarian/socialist ones.

    The WTO riot was nothing near a riot by Watts, Newark and more recent riot metrics. It was well-organized and coolly directed at well-chosen targets. They were not slouches who pulled it off. But the locals are just too deep in their hookahs and bath houses and racism to give much of a follow-on effect to such vanguard actions. So it didn’t “spill over” into other areas of the city.

    Additionally, the tactical response by SPD was handled by a then-Chief who lost his job over it. PC (Perfectly Capitulated) Seattle-style, let the little sweeties to their thing, they’re just a bit grumpy today, they’ll get over it. The Chief’s name was Stamper, Norm Stamper, if I recall correctly.

    Finally Metro Transit (my employer at the time) was ordered to ring the WTO meeting location with buses to prevent the grumpy sweeties from getting in there. I think it was the Weston Hotel, but memory is fuzzy there. I think one of the buses was tilted over, or they tried to, forget exactly.

    All needless, of course, if tactical pressure had been applied early and decisively, as well it could have been.

    Finally, the little darlings sat down in the intersection of 5th and Pine and Stamper let them alone finally until someone decided enough was enough. Probably the little sweeties had to get a Starbucks and relieve nature, so they wandered off. Police *helped* them a bit but nowhere near would they could and should have. And others broke windows and roughed up people, including police if I recall correctly.

    But it was nothing like the synergistic orgies of violence seen in black riots.

    The riots of the Bonus March were communist riots. The original marchers were WWI Veterans seeking handout during the Depression but were soon taken over by Communist agitators, who, along with heat and lack of sanitation, turned the Veterans violent. The federal government was actually threatened, which was the point of the Communist agitation.

    MacArthur was asked by the President to clear the mob from the Capitol area. He could have given the job to a subordinate, whose career would have been over directly after. So he took personal command, and took with him as a staff officer a young Dwight D. Eisenhower. Using the blunt side of sabers, Army Horse cleared the area per Presidential order.

    And Communists forever after hated MacArthur, as well they should. He stopped them over and over and over right up to and including whipping a series of Red Chinese Field Armies with a vastly inferior force (in numbers) — the reason he was relieved, he wasn’t supposed to beat them.

    At the WTO riot Communists, allied with straight anarchists, tried direct action to ignite a general rebellion. Historically, they are more successful going a slow indirect rebellion by taking over groups such as the Bonus Marchers, Greenpeace, Sierra Club, Nature Conservancy, “climate research,” Democratic Party, etc.

    We need more MacArthurs in positions where they can stop the crap when ordered — and C-i-Cs who believe in stopping the crap instead of making it.

  7. Thrasymachus
    May 12th, 2010 @ 8:26 pm

    The Seattle police have a long history of uselessness, the Mardi Gras riots being a less well-known example. But it’s a reflection of the culture of the area.

  8. Thrasymachus
    May 12th, 2010 @ 3:26 pm

    The Seattle police have a long history of uselessness, the Mardi Gras riots being a less well-known example. But it’s a reflection of the culture of the area.

  9. Joe
    May 12th, 2010 @ 10:33 pm

    I was not at the Seattle incident, but it seemed to be mostly lefty dweebs looking for a day of fun mayhem with little risk of getting some sense banged into them by a police nightstick. And I am sure they bussed those Student Loan-Parent Sponsored Anarchists in from Evergreen State College (Rachel Corrie’s alma matter), Corvallis, and Eugene). Yeah, the Seattle cops should

    The race riots in Newark, Watts, and later in LA were serious violent mayhem and property damage. The Chicago convention riot was kids acting up and the police (arguably) over reacting or reacting appropriately but not controlling the message well (remember this was the late 60s and the MSM was not completely in the bag for the left yet). The Seattle riot was the police under-reacting.

    As far as the bonus riots, I am surprised it did not make the list. While I know there were a lot of communists agents in the crowd, I was not criticizing MacArthur for that. As for MacArthur other accomplishments, his record leading up to and in WWII is mixed. Same for Korea. His post war occupation of Japan was well done. And given his disagreements with Truman, Truman was correct in relieving him.

  10. Joe
    May 12th, 2010 @ 5:33 pm

    I was not at the Seattle incident, but it seemed to be mostly lefty dweebs looking for a day of fun mayhem with little risk of getting some sense banged into them by a police nightstick. And I am sure they bussed those Student Loan-Parent Sponsored Anarchists in from Evergreen State College (Rachel Corrie’s alma matter), Corvallis, and Eugene). Yeah, the Seattle cops should

    The race riots in Newark, Watts, and later in LA were serious violent mayhem and property damage. The Chicago convention riot was kids acting up and the police (arguably) over reacting or reacting appropriately but not controlling the message well (remember this was the late 60s and the MSM was not completely in the bag for the left yet). The Seattle riot was the police under-reacting.

    As far as the bonus riots, I am surprised it did not make the list. While I know there were a lot of communists agents in the crowd, I was not criticizing MacArthur for that. As for MacArthur other accomplishments, his record leading up to and in WWII is mixed. Same for Korea. His post war occupation of Japan was well done. And given his disagreements with Truman, Truman was correct in relieving him.

  11. KG
    May 13th, 2010 @ 3:38 am

    One thing I always wonder about when I watch these videos is how do these protesters make money? They must have day jobs right? They might not be so eager to take part in these riots if it costs them their livelihood.

    Unless they are just freeloaders, then meh.

  12. KG
    May 12th, 2010 @ 10:38 pm

    One thing I always wonder about when I watch these videos is how do these protesters make money? They must have day jobs right? They might not be so eager to take part in these riots if it costs them their livelihood.

    Unless they are just freeloaders, then meh.