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Pamela Geller Linked by New York Times

Posted on | July 29, 2011 | 28 Comments

Not in a good way, but by a couple of Norwegian writers blaming her (and “Islamophobia”) for the Oslo massacre:

Hatred of Muslims and resentment of the left — one of us has repeatedly received resentful diatribes against the “multiculturalist elite,” and was mentioned in Mr. Breivik’s own writings — is not confined to Norway. Mr. Breivik has praised Gates of Vienna, a Web site that compares contemporary Europe to long-ago wars with the Ottomans. He has praised writers like Bruce Bawer, the American author of “While Europe Slept: How Radical Islam is Destroying the West from Within,” and Bat Ye’Or, the pseudonym for the British author of the conspiratorial “Eurabia: The Euro-Arab Axis.” He is an enthusiastic reader of the virulently anti-Islamic blog of Pamela Geller, an American who leads the group “Stop Islamization of America” and gained notoriety for her opposition to an Islamic center near ground zero in Manhattan.
Europe’s new right is, in other words, not neo-Nazi; it has swapped anti-Semitism for Islamophobia. After a hiatus of several hundred years, fear of Islam reemerged around 1989, as the Cold War was ending and Iranian mullahs issued a fatwa against the British writer Salman Rushdie. It gained popularity as increasing numbers of Muslims entered Europe as immigrants in the 1990s, and became widespread in the aftermath of 9/11. Traditional racism may actually be waning in several European countries, but hostility toward Islam and animosity toward Muslim immigrants and their children is on the rise. . . .

At least the authors don’t pretend that “hostility toward Islam” arose without any provocation.

The question, I’d say, is which is the greater danger: Islamicization or Islamophobia? And if you believe the former is the greater danger, then the latter is actually rational — even when it presents itself in “virulent” fashion.


28 Responses to “Pamela Geller Linked by New York Times

  1. Zilla of the Resistance
    July 29th, 2011 @ 1:34 pm

    What they are doing to Pamela (and Robert Spencer, and the entire anti-jihad movement)  is blood libel, similar to what they did to Sarah Palin after the Tuscon shooting, but far worse.  The bearers of false witness have an agenda and they have a vested interest in silencing voices that express truths which do not fit the “islam means peace” taqiyya narrative. The people vilifying Pamela are opportunistic jackals who will exploit a tragic atrocity (that Pamela had nothing to do with) to further their own agenda. It is evil, and I urge everyone to please join the growing ranks of people standing united against this wickedness.
    Operation United Front – UPDATED – Roll Call!

  2. Lady Liberty
    July 29th, 2011 @ 1:40 pm

    I was thinking the exact thing almost, Zilla.
    Geller/Spencer are to Oslo as Palin was to Tuscon for the Left.

    Wonder how they will spin the latest Fort Hood Wannabe? Jihad watch has a link to the ABC interview with him where he spewed some nice thick taqiyya.

  3. Anamika
    July 29th, 2011 @ 2:03 pm

    You’d love to be quoted by the NY Times, don’t you? Fwiw, afaik, RS McCain was not even quoted by any editor/frontpager of even a liberal blog like Daily Kos.

  4. Charles Johnson
    July 29th, 2011 @ 2:18 pm

    I am doing it.  It’s me!  Me! 

    Serves you right Pamela for rejecting me!  Okay I am sexually confused, but I still hate rejection.  I am pulling all my favors now, getting lefties to blame you for Oslo.  Even though Anders Behring Breivik cited Little Green Footballs and other gay writers in his manifesto. 

  5. TR
    July 29th, 2011 @ 2:28 pm

    What was disturbing was the Princeton professor Krugman who continued to make statements blaming Palin for Loughner’s violent actions and used his powerful writing position to attack with impunity an innocent person (Palin).  The NYT gives license to these media assassins and people see: the NYT, PhD and think must be valid?  This is the most insidious kind of evil.  For the left wing now they sense, it worked for one person (Palin) so they now focus the torch on Pamela and Robert.  Another 2 minute hate from 1984.

    I commend folks like Zilla and others who can push back on this since Pamela and Robert are not the only ones in the mix and we all need to stand against these belligerant lies.

  6. Paul Krugman
    July 29th, 2011 @ 2:39 pm

    The ends justify the means!  I am really a nice guy once you get to know me.  Just let me wreck the economy of the United States of America first. 

  7. Ladd Ehlinger Jr.
    July 29th, 2011 @ 3:33 pm

    All you need to do is program a few more sock puppets, and the world is yours.

  8. William Strunk
    July 29th, 2011 @ 4:03 pm

    No offense, but many localities offer night courses in English as a second language.

  9. Anamika
    July 29th, 2011 @ 4:15 pm

    Thanks for the tip.

    No offense to you too, just an observation:

    Chameleons change colours less than you change your screen names.

  10. Anamika
    July 29th, 2011 @ 4:16 pm

    Should read ‘colors’ (in American English) of course.

  11. DaveO
    July 29th, 2011 @ 4:51 pm

    He could always hire Glenn Greenwald and his drawer of sock puppets – enough to rule the world!

  12. Ladd Ehlinger Jr.
    July 29th, 2011 @ 5:13 pm

    Someone get a debugger, stat

  13. JeffS
    July 29th, 2011 @ 5:19 pm

    Tut tut, Anamika, tut tut!

    Being catty isn’t going to make your point.

    By the way, what is your point?

  14. William Strunk
    July 29th, 2011 @ 5:26 pm

    Of course.

  15. Anonymous
    July 29th, 2011 @ 5:37 pm

    It’s not Islamophobia, it’s Islamonausea.  Don’t let them define the terms of the discussion.

  16. Ladd Ehlinger Jr.
    July 29th, 2011 @ 5:43 pm

    Anamika’s point is, Anamika upset that Animika got stuck with the assignment of trolling McCain’s site. Anamika’s superiors didn’t think Anamika was good enough to troll more “important” blogs. Keep plugging away, Anamika. One day, your greatness  as a troll will be recognized, and they’ll let you into Mordor’s cocktail parties.

  17. Huey
    July 29th, 2011 @ 6:23 pm

    At some point, precision of language is important. A “phobia” is an unreasoning fear. I’m sorry, but any fear of Islam by anyone not (of the correct sect) Muslim, is not “unreasoned.”

  18. Anonymous
    July 29th, 2011 @ 8:01 pm


  19. Anonymous
    July 29th, 2011 @ 8:05 pm

    How would one express the lack of fear of Islam. Islamophileobia?

  20. Anonymous
    July 29th, 2011 @ 8:06 pm

    I believe this is some sort of purgatory gigi has cast it into.

  21. Charles Johnson
    July 29th, 2011 @ 8:25 pm

    You know me so well.  You are still a wingnut. but you know me well. 

  22. Donald Douglas
    July 29th, 2011 @ 8:27 pm
  23. Charles Johnson
    July 29th, 2011 @ 8:27 pm

    Greenwald could come over and we could play samba on the bongos naked, then smoke weed and eat doughnuts.  That is a good night for me.   

  24. Charles Johnson
    July 29th, 2011 @ 8:31 pm

    They work for me.  Kejda Germani the moon faced girl who is my mole over at Contentions, gigi the wonder dog, and of course Anamika. 

  25. Zilla of the Resistance
    July 30th, 2011 @ 2:20 am

    If you or anyone else here wants to be added to the growing Roll Call list of people standing united against the vicious blood libel, please let me know. I promise, you will be in good company, just go to the bottom of my post and you’ll see.

  26. Zilla of the Resistance
    July 30th, 2011 @ 2:21 am

    Lady, would you like to join the growing Roll Call list? Let me know if yo want to be added.

  27. Anonymous
    July 30th, 2011 @ 4:33 am

    The article labels Breivik “the self-described Christian crusader.” Did he ever describe himself thus, or is the only evidence those entries that were made on his Facebook page while he was in custody?

  28. Pam Geller Anders Breivik: Progressive Assaults Right on Cue Video | Maggie's Notebook
    August 3rd, 2011 @ 10:14 pm

    […] According to Geller, Breivik footnoted a couple of Geller posts in his 1500 page manifesto, although you will find convoluted assertions on the Internet that Breivik praised her. He did not. It’s too complicated to explain, but those assertions are taken as Breivik’s own words, when in fact Breivik quoted blogger Fjordman who’s words could not be characterized as “praise,” not that it matters. The closest explanation I’ve found comes from the first commenter, “he who scoffs at danger” in this egregious blog post on Geller and Breivik. And this one one takes it to the next level. Please read it if you have any doubts about Geller.  Read the screed from the New York Times. […]