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Old Testament Passages Come To Mind

Posted on | April 6, 2014 | 81 Comments

by Smitty

And the development I’m referring to isn’t the broadening support for same-sex marriage, which a clear majority of Americans now favor. No, I’m referring to the fact that in a great many circles, endorsement of same-sex marriage has rather suddenly become nonnegotiable. Expected. Assumed. Proof of a baseline level of enlightenment and humanity. Akin to the understanding that all people, regardless of race or color, warrant the same rights and respect.

Even beyond these circles, the debate is essentially over, in the sense that the trajectory is immutable and the conclusion foregone. Everybody knows it, even the people who still try to stand in the way. The legalization of same-sex marriage from north to south and coast to coast is merely a matter of time, probably not much of it at that.

No one is denying any individuals respect, unless they are named Brendan Eich.

Basic falsehoods, e.g. 2+2=5, remain unacceptable. What has changed is that common sense has suffered a setback. As a part of societal collapse, you can keep useful traditions like you keep your doctor.

What the liars will be shocked to discover is that this “victory” is useless. Calling their pet Yorkies “children” does not offspring make. Meanwhile, the un-confused will continue to raise actual children, and teach them the truth.

This falsehood is as transient as a campaign promise, and the judgement will come down, on us as it did on the Israelites. Lord, have mercy.


81 Responses to “Old Testament Passages Come To Mind”

  1. Bob Belvedere
    April 6th, 2014 @ 6:14 pm

    The Bible reflects Reality and Reality reflects The Bible.

    For fools and bores like Anamika they run to The Bible because it is easy to find surface contradictions in it because it reflects Life as it has been, and continues to be, lived by Mankind. So, they think they’re being cute when they refer to it, but, really, they’re just displaying their profound ignorance.

  2. Bob Belvedere
    April 6th, 2014 @ 6:15 pm

    I would agree with you if the phrase read ‘who thinks he is homosexual’.

  3. Bob Belvedere
    April 6th, 2014 @ 6:18 pm

    I like a dash of Balder in my Martinis.

  4. Dana
    April 6th, 2014 @ 6:46 pm

    Reverse it: a Catholic priest cannot get married, and therefore is sinning if he has sex with a woman. But Catholic priests who remain celibate are still heterosexual if the attractions they resist are toward women.

    The Catechism of the Catholic Church treats homosexuality as a grave disorder, but a disorder is not sinful, any more than being blind or handicapped is sinful. I would argue that someone who is a pedophile, attracted to minors, but who successfully resists his temptations, is disordered but not sinning in that area.

  5. Dana
    April 6th, 2014 @ 6:48 pm

    A bourgeois value? I’m sure that man on the left look at it that way, but every human culture about which we have any knowledge at all has had heterosexual marriage as an organizing principle of society.

  6. Dana
    April 6th, 2014 @ 6:49 pm

    Yes, Christianity and homosexual activity are incompatible, completely incompatible.

  7. K-Bob
    April 6th, 2014 @ 6:53 pm


  8. Dana
    April 6th, 2014 @ 6:59 pm

    Anamika wrote:

    But there are ways to look at the “problem” of homosexuality you mention that makes it “not problem.”

    And NAMBLA has ways to look at the “problem” of pedophilia that makes it “not problem,” but that doesn’t make them right.

    Your citations have proved that yes, there are always people who can justify things, and call them not problems or normal or good, but that doesn’t make them right.

  9. K-Bob
    April 6th, 2014 @ 7:06 pm

    Another attempt to claim a fake consensus. It won’t work.

  10. Regular Right Guy
    April 6th, 2014 @ 7:28 pm

    With a twist of something neither of us wants to think about.

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  12. Bob Belvedere
    April 6th, 2014 @ 8:11 pm

    In Reality, they have none, but in this Age Of Leftist Hegemony, where life is viewed through a funhouse mirror, they have it.

  13. Dana
    April 6th, 2014 @ 9:20 pm

    Given the measurable results of the “sexual revolution,” tremendously increased bastardy, millions of children reared without having their fathers present, along with greatly increased poverty for single parent families, perhaps one might suggest that sexual “looseness” leads to problems far beyond organized religion.

  14. Mike G.
    April 6th, 2014 @ 9:35 pm

    Why the hell should it matter if a person knows a homosexual or not. The fact of the matter is that it is an abomination against God and and therefore, a sin.

    It’s also against science. I mean, unless a guy screwing another guy in the ass or two girls passing bodily fluids orally can make a baby. Perhaps I missed something in my biology class? Enlighten me, kif you please…I’d really like to hear this.

  15. Zohydro
    April 6th, 2014 @ 9:45 pm

    +1 for “bastardy”!

  16. Quartermaster
    April 6th, 2014 @ 9:53 pm

    Billy Graham is no authority on the matter. Had he been a Pastor it would be different, as would his opinion. He has not seen the deep reaching effects of such depravity upon a person. Sexual sin is extremely hard to overcome, even worse than drugs. It reaches to the core of what God created a person to be and twists in knots.

  17. Zohydro
    April 6th, 2014 @ 9:54 pm

    I should think that, were religion taken entirely out of the equation, homosexuality would still meet the standard for definition as “unnatural” in any case… +1 for the New Testament!

  18. Quartermaster
    April 6th, 2014 @ 9:56 pm

    I plan to keep doing it too! You’re welcome to “steal” the expression because that’s what it is.

  19. Quartermaster
    April 6th, 2014 @ 10:02 pm

    No. If a person has become a Christian, it’s a new world for them, and they cease to be, because they abandon their sin. To wit:

    Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11
    Either they abandon and repudiate their sin, or they remain in sin. They can no longer remain as they were and still be Christian. If they go back, they cease to be a Christian. But, in Christ, there are no “celibate homosexuals.”

  20. Quartermaster
    April 6th, 2014 @ 10:03 pm

    The homosexual is defined by what he/she does. There is no changing that.

  21. Quartermaster
    April 6th, 2014 @ 10:05 pm

    Life is not sterile. One of the biological imperatives is reproduction. Mammals do not reproduce asexually, so anything that is intentionally sterile is unnatural.

  22. NonoCons
    April 6th, 2014 @ 11:35 pm

    By that stretch any sex that doesn’t involve pro-creation as it’s objective wouldn’t be science. Neither would any sex play that didn’t involve vaginal intercourse. That’s science? LOL! Your sex life must suck.

    Second, Im not a christian so don’t give a shit about your God. Any organization that looks upon an entire group of people as an “abomination” for something as immutable as orientation needs to be flushed down the toilet.

  23. Dana
    April 7th, 2014 @ 6:41 am

    Would you then define a celibate man who has sexual desires for women that he either suppresses or cannot exercise as not being heterosexual? I wouldn’t.

  24. Quartermaster
    April 7th, 2014 @ 8:40 am

    It’s that twist that scares me. I genuinely fear for this country, even though the judgment will be brought on in spite of the warnings they have been given, which they have ignored.

  25. Dana
    April 7th, 2014 @ 10:49 am

    Given that the Bible notes that the other things the Reverend Graham said were sins are also bars to heaven, his statement is somewhat reasonable, but I think he expressed it poorly: it’s not that homosexual activity isn’t so bad, but that so much of the other things we do are far worse than we are willing to admit.

  26. Quartermaster
    April 7th, 2014 @ 11:41 am

    The Roam Catholic Church is disordered because it forbids clerical marriage. Peter was married, and Paul stated succinctly that he had the right to marry. Clerical celibacy was merely a matter of ecclesial power and had little to do with Paul’s statement about being more efficacious in service otherwise.

  27. Quartermaster
    April 7th, 2014 @ 11:45 am

    It doesn’t surprise that a person advocating for depravity would see no sense in what Smitty said.

  28. Dana
    April 7th, 2014 @ 12:19 pm

    Priestly celibacy is an internal Church discipline, and can be changed; in the Eastern Rite Catholic Churches, priests may be married, but the bishops are selected only from celibate men.

  29. Zohydro
    April 7th, 2014 @ 12:52 pm

    Y’know… “homosexual” and “heterosexual” are not complementary or polar opposites! The homosexual is an entirely unique thing unto itself…

  30. Quartermaster
    April 7th, 2014 @ 6:38 pm

    That discipline was not imposed for religious reasons. It was imposed to control ecclesial power.

    I’m aware that Eastern Rite Catholic Churches allow married Priests. They originated in the Eastern Orthodox Churches where the rule is the same. The fact that Bishops must chosen from monks, however, is just as bad as not allowing a married priesthood and for the same reasons.

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