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TERROR RAID: French Police Kill Two, Arrest Seven Suspects in Saint Denis

Posted on | November 18, 2015 | 73 Comments

 

In a pre-dawn raid reportedly aimed at the mastermind of the Nov. 13 terrorist attacks in Paris, at least two suspects were killed and five arrested in the suburb of Saint Denis. CNN initially reported three suspects had been killed, including one female who blew herself up with a bomb, during the raid targeting Abdelhamid Abaaoud, suspected of organizing the Paris attacks. The Washington Post reports:

Gunshots and explosions rang out from the northern suburb of Saint-Denis early Wednesday as more than 100 French police and army troops laid siege to an apartment with at least six terror suspects, potentially including the alleged ringleader of Friday’s deadly attacks in Paris.
The narrow streets of Saint Denis were clogged with police vehicles and ambulances as witnesses reported multiple explosions. The operation began around 4:30 a.m. [11:30 p.m. ET], and left several police officers wounded and at least two suspects dead. The dead included a woman who blew herself up, according to the Paris prosecutor’s office.
The prosecutor’s office said three men were removed from the besieged apartment block and taken into custody. Their identities were not given. A man and a woman were arrested next to the apartment and also taken into custody. One suspect appeared to be still holed up.
Police may have been targeting Abdelhamid Abaaoud, a Belgian man authorities believe has led the Islamic State’s effort to terrorize Europe, according to an official familiar with the operation. He is seen as the “guru” of Friday’s deadly attacks at a stadium, concert hall and bars and restaurants in Paris, which killed at least 129 people and wounded more than 300 others.
French police have not officially confirmed who was the target of the raid.

UPDATE: The New York Times reports:

After a series of gun battles early Wednesday, the French police arrested five suspects hiding out in an apartment in the northern Paris suburb of St.-Denis in an operation aimed at detaining the Belgian militant suspected of organizing the attacks that killed 129 people on Friday. One woman died in the police assault when she detonated an explosive vest.
The raid began at 4:20 a.m., the Paris prosecutor’s office said, as special police forces, backed by truckloads of soldiers, cordoned off an area near Place Jean Jaurès, a main square in St.-Denis not far from the Stade de France, where three of the seven attackers who died on Friday blew themselves up. The shooting went on for 20 minutes, residents said, and continued in bursts until 7:30 a.m., when there were several explosions and gunfire.
Three men hiding out in the apartment were taken in by the police, the prosecutor’s office said, without identifying any of the three. A man and a woman were also captured near the apartment and have been taken in, the authorities said. Five police officers were lightly wounded, the police said.

UPDATE II: CNBC reports seven arrests:

The Paris prosecutor’s office confirmed one woman has died after detonating a suicide bomb, while sources told Reuters earlier a man had also been killed.
It also confirmed that five people have been placed under police custody following the raid. Two more have were arrested later in the morning, according to Reuters. . . .
Some more reports from Reuters about the suspects in the St. Denis raid. The news agency, citing a source, says they had planned an attack on the French business district.

The BCC reports:

The female suicide bomber who was killed in the Saint Denis raids was a relative of lslamic State militant Abdelhamid Abaaoud, BFM TV in France reports. Abaaoud is suspected of masterminding Friday’s attacks. . . .
Seven people were arrested in the raid, police are quoted by the AP news agency as saying. . . .
Several police officers were injured and a police dog killed.

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73 Responses to “TERROR RAID: French Police Kill Two, Arrest Seven Suspects in Saint Denis”

  1. NeoWayland
    November 18th, 2015 @ 7:28 am

    Does it bother anyone else that France is able to act quickly while our Imperious Leader is barely able to craft a press release?

  2. Dana
    November 18th, 2015 @ 8:02 am

    Given that there is no death penalty in France, the French should simply resolve to feed these cretins chitterlings for the rest of their miserable lives.

  3. CrustyB
    November 18th, 2015 @ 9:34 am

    I never thought I’d live to see the day that Russia would be the leader of the free world and France would be the example of strong resistance.

  4. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    November 18th, 2015 @ 9:41 am

    It heartens me France is actually responding. Unfortunately it is going to take a mass attack (again) to wake America up.

  5. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    November 18th, 2015 @ 9:42 am

    The thing is good chichlins will convert you!

  6. RKae
    November 18th, 2015 @ 9:57 am

    Nonsense! After the Benghazi attack, Obama reacted with lightning speed!

    …Arresting the maker of a YouTube video, and apologizing to Muslims.

  7. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    November 18th, 2015 @ 10:23 am

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CK0yxmhjwJU/VkyTN6G1-9I/AAAAAAAA1Dk/sVuHTaGYC9o/s1600/RIP%2BDiesel%2Bkilled%2Bin%2BSaint%2BDenis.png

  8. NeoWayland
    November 18th, 2015 @ 11:22 am

    I think Americans are so used to lies when it comes to foreign policy, we don’t pay attention.

    After all, this week’s cover story is subject to change.

    “And then 9-11 happened. That would have destroyed most other nations. It just pissed us off. By October 1st, 2001, Americans were ready to take the world apart and put it back together in our own image. And we almost set out to do exactly that and be damned with the consequences.

    But no, we had to be multi-lateral and multi-national and multi-phasic and multi-tasking and multi-cultural and multi-apologetic.

    Freedom and liberty have always been our beacons. That’s when Americans are at our best. That’s when we change the world for the better.

    But when we take our eyes off those beacons, we lose track of the future. We undo the things that make us stronger.”
    Why does your enlightenment demand that I sacrifice?

  9. Dianna Deeley
    November 18th, 2015 @ 1:06 pm

    And what a disgrace that I am saying, “Go, France!” and hiding my head in shame at this administration.

    Hell, I’ve been reviewing the Marseillaise in case I meet some French people.

  10. Dianna Deeley
    November 18th, 2015 @ 1:06 pm

    Yes, it does. Hugely.

  11. Dianna Deeley
    November 18th, 2015 @ 1:14 pm

    That is very good!

    It needs some proofing, but that’s not unusual in a blog post.

  12. Dana
    November 18th, 2015 @ 1:20 pm

    Only if prepared by 300 lb black women from the South.

  13. Dana
    November 18th, 2015 @ 1:23 pm

  14. Dana
    November 18th, 2015 @ 1:25 pm

    And if you need the lyrics:

  15. Dana
    November 18th, 2015 @ 2:10 pm

    A Da’ish spokescamel said:

    We say to the states that take part in the crusader campaign that, by God, you will have a day, God willing, like France’s and by God, as we struck France in the center of its abode in Paris, then we swear that we will strike America at its center in Washington.

    OK, I’m trying to see a downside to this threat. If they really mean it, then we should let in all of the Syrian refugees, with no vetting at all, to let them carry out their promise.

  16. NeoWayland
    November 18th, 2015 @ 3:02 pm

    Thank you.

  17. DeadMessenger
    November 18th, 2015 @ 3:53 pm

    Silly man. Of course they don’t mean it! Washington is the only place left in the country where profiling is perfectly ok. Those guys would never get close enough to any preferred target. Nope, instead it’ll be busy malls on Black Friday, with rent-a-cops averting their eyes ’cause profiling is intolerant and discriminatory. Because Muslim women in full burka have a right to Black Friday deals, what with Christmas just around the corner, and all.

  18. DeadMessenger
    November 18th, 2015 @ 3:59 pm

    Well, I’m probably asking to be attacked, but here goes: this French raid seemed less like a raid and more like a military op. Just like here. Am I the only one who gets weird slippery-slopish feelings about this type of thing? Maybe I am.

  19. JackLo
    November 18th, 2015 @ 4:31 pm

    Nope. I’ve noticed a few other things since Paris like the FBI, and other security services asking tech companies for encryption keys to crack secure communications, which would give them the ability to crack ALL secure communications, along with the usual round of media censorship. There is nothing that has frustrated and infuriated our NSA/CIA/FBI more over the years than consumers and Internet users being able to hide from them with what is in a lot cases basic software like TOR, VPN, etc. They are now using Paris to try and get their way, especially after Snowden knocked the hell out of them with the Prism disclosures. And when I see men armed with machine guns on patrol, and military personnel in the streets I get these odd flashes of a dystopic future, and the ideas of many a novelist coming to life. This isn’t to say I’m not for eradicating IS, I just hate that since 9/11 that means an erosion of privacy, bigger government, and a weird sort of “this is a police state” vibe.

  20. marcus tullius cicero
    November 18th, 2015 @ 5:07 pm

    …Islamist are hard to kill, but killed we must!

  21. Steve Skubinna
    November 18th, 2015 @ 6:06 pm

    Muslims hate dogs, period.

    Let’s see how long it takes the useful idiots at Vox or Salon or MSNBC to explain that the French provoked this by bringing a dog onto Muslim land.

    Umm… not that Muslims had anything to do with this and I preemptively denounce any suggestion that they did!

  22. Steve Skubinna
    November 18th, 2015 @ 6:11 pm

    What does Islam have to do with any of this? These were simply unspecified “extremists” (you know, like Tea Partiers) just killing random folks.

    Even John Kerry is baffled. I mean, those Charlie Hebdo guys, yeah, they totally deserved it with their mocking cartoons and all that… and those Jews, asking for it, all of them.

    But this, it’s just inexplicable.

  23. marcus tullius cicero
    November 18th, 2015 @ 6:25 pm

    …this is the true Islam and its in your face 24/7.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ab5b86cec4bf762c4188ad143621de038990ea955534d629372aad85a5826d66.jpg

  24. DeadMessenger
    November 18th, 2015 @ 6:56 pm

    I’ve said before that a police state is the end game, and Western *gag*leaders*gag* plan to impose that by bringing self-professed invaders into our countries, which has the added “benefit” to the elite of destroying nationalism (a Biblical concept, btw) and Christianity, two things totally harshing their mellow.

    Prophecy. We’re living it.

  25. NeoWayland
    November 18th, 2015 @ 7:50 pm

    The libertarian parts of the net have been crossing over with some of the paranoid conspiracy parts.

    At this point the two biggest coincidences have been that the French flagship aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle arrived off the coast of Syria last week and there are new emergency surveillance powers for the French government.

    There are some rumors that the raid was planned a couple of weeks ago, but I can’t confirm that.

  26. NeoWayland
    November 18th, 2015 @ 7:52 pm

    I don’t agree with the Biblical angle but I do think a police state is part of the goal.

  27. Quartermaster
    November 18th, 2015 @ 7:58 pm

    That you disagree with the “biblical angle” is utterly irrelevant. What is prophesied in scripture is coming whether you like it or not. Everything is proceeding as God has foreseen it.

  28. Adobe_Walls
    November 18th, 2015 @ 7:58 pm

    How sadly true.

  29. Adobe_Walls
    November 18th, 2015 @ 8:04 pm

    I remember when they set up a guillotine on a runway that the palestinians had landed a hijacked aircraft on.

  30. NeoWayland
    November 18th, 2015 @ 8:07 pm

    I was nice enough to capitalize “Biblical.”

    It’s pretty obvious that the Bible only matters to those who believe in it.

    I agreed with part of DM’s comment. There’s no need to shoehorn me into your faith. You should know by now that I won’t submit.

    Really we agree on quite a bit. It’s just the bit where I won’t put your beliefs over mine that bothers you.

  31. DeadMessenger
    November 18th, 2015 @ 8:31 pm

    Yes, and thank you for capitalizing “Biblical”. : )

    And, I guess this is more rhetorical than anything, but let’s say that Revelation says that 2/3 of the people in the world will be killed via several specific and freakishly unprecedented events, and then those things actually happen as predicted. You know, just for the sake of discussion. And you were one of the fortunate (or not, depending upon viewpoint) ones who survived, I wonder what you would think then? At the least, wouldn’t you want to find one of those Bibles to see what came next on the carnage agenda? I hope you do, if you ever find yourself in that situation.

    You’re a hard sell, NW, it’s true, but I do pray for you. I used to be like you in many ways, but look at me now. People who knew me in the day still can’t believe it. Goes to show how radically circumstances can change. You say it’ll never happen to you, and then it does.

    In fact, this is sorta funny. When I was diagnosed with terminal cancer…me, with multiple degrees, 4.0 GPA, 99th percentile Mensa…the FIRST thing I thought was, “THIS CAN’T BE HAPPENING TO *ME*!” LOL – what an idiot!

  32. DeadMessenger
    November 18th, 2015 @ 8:35 pm

    “Conspiracy”. That word essentially has no meaning in today’s world.

    Oh yeah, and “coincidence”! Proverbs 16:33, my favorite Scripture, “You may roll the dice, but the Lord determines the outcome”, i.e., no such thing as coincidence.

    Things start making more sense when you leave conspiracies out of it, and believe that nothing is a coincidence. 😀

  33. NeoWayland
    November 18th, 2015 @ 8:39 pm

    Well, you are determined and you do try for the nice stuff.

    As I’ve said, for your faith to mean anything, it has to be freely chosen and you have to take responsibility for it. That implies that I have to have my choice and take responsibility for it.

    Without going into a song and dance about my personal history, let me just say that when I tried to be a Christian, I was not a good man.

    You can pray for me, and I’ll dance in the desert for you.

  34. NeoWayland
    November 18th, 2015 @ 8:45 pm

    I didn’t say it didn’t make sense.

    It’s just that I occasionally hang out in some odd corners of the web. Sometimes it pays off, sometimes it doesn’t. Sometimes I just really like watching close.

    That’s where the name of my political blog came from. If people can keep a Christian vigil, I can keep a pagan vigil.

    That and one of my favorite rites is keeping an all night vigil in front of a fire.

  35. Quartermaster
    November 18th, 2015 @ 9:42 pm

    I know you won’t submit, and God knew from time immemorial you would not submit. But, thinking the “biblical angle” doesn’t mean anything to you simply because you don’t accept it is rubbish. That you refuse to acknowledge Christ as Lord now doesn’t matter either. One day you will, but it really won’t matter then because you will be forced to bow the knee then, just prior to your condemnation.

  36. NeoWayland
    November 18th, 2015 @ 10:17 pm

    You can quit marking your territory now. I’m sure everyone who believes as you do is suitably impressed.

    I ran across and interesting line from a French pagan lady the other day. Of course she was talking about the Islamist attacks, but I think it applies here.

    “So let’s assume religion is a d*ck. If you have one, good for you! If you have a big one, we are very happy and proud of you. The problem begins when you show it.”

  37. DeadMessenger
    November 18th, 2015 @ 10:25 pm

    I was just now wondering what sort of dance moves those might be. I’m thinking, not so much Fred Astaire or Danny Kaye, probably. 😀

  38. DeadMessenger
    November 18th, 2015 @ 10:30 pm

    That POS in the WH called incoming “Syrian refugees” “widows and orphans”. Man, it totally chaps my byoo-tocks that he thinks we’re all that bleeding stupid.

  39. NeoWayland
    November 18th, 2015 @ 11:02 pm

    I confess.

    The usual line is ”Sure you can pray for me and I’ll dance naked in the forest for you!”

    But it’s too freakin’ cold to dance naked. And I’d have to drive a couple of hours to find a forest.

    And no, it’s not the kind of dancing that Astaire would do.

  40. Quartermaster
    November 19th, 2015 @ 12:12 am

    You miss the point, as usual.

  41. DeadMessenger
    November 19th, 2015 @ 12:17 am

    But never try that dancing naked in a forest thing in Florida, or that’ll be the last naked thing you’ll ever do. We’ve got bugs here that nobody’s ever seen or heard of before, and they all either want to eat you or explore your orifices, or both. At least in the more tropical central and southern parts of the state.

    And what is this “cold” thing? I’m not really clear on what that is. 😀

  42. Daniel Freeman
    November 19th, 2015 @ 12:44 am

    Yeah, in Syria, the women with children (that do not have fathers) are wondering. They are wondering how, with all the young men gone, who will protect them? Who will protect the widows and orphans in Syria?

  43. DeadMessenger
    November 19th, 2015 @ 1:34 am

    Don’t burst my bubble, NW. I derive great happiness and comfort at the thought of a pagan dancing like Fred Astaire, au naturale, for my benefit. I hope that doesn’t sound mocking, because it’s not meant that way.

    Also notice that I stopped calling you Neo, even though I liked it and I’m sad to not use it because I thought it was fitting, for the reason that you capitalized “Biblical”, I guess.

  44. NeoWayland
    November 19th, 2015 @ 7:05 am

    I’ve never been to Florida, but I may have seen some smaller cousins of your bugs in Arkansas and Louisiana.

    Yeah, cold. Cold is the thing that happens in the desert at night when you are far away from steel and concrete and asphalt. A dry cold like that is deceptive, because you can lose body heat without realizing it and sometimes without even feeling it.

    That’s one reason why pagans like bonfires. And fireplaces. *grins*

  45. NeoWayland
    November 19th, 2015 @ 7:10 am

    I’ll let you keep your bubble.

    I admit I’m a little sensitive about the “Neo” thing. I was using it before the movie. That film has complicated things when I try to explain my beliefs. “Take the red pill.”

    The Wayland bit is more important than the Neo.

  46. NeoWayland
    November 19th, 2015 @ 7:15 am

    It’s not your god posting about a terrible deferred punishment that will happen conveniently in the next world. It’s you.

    It’s you making that choice.

    I don’t know what has you so afraid, but I know something does.

    Given a choice between love and fear, the rational person chooses love.

  47. Ilion
    November 19th, 2015 @ 8:24 am

    I’m tellin’ ya, “weaponized” bacon can be our shield of defense.

  48. Ilion
    November 19th, 2015 @ 8:30 am

    “There’s no need to shoehorn me into your faith. You should know by now that I won’t submit.”

    Ah! But the real question is how adamant is your refusal to submit to those who really do intend to force you to submit or else. Or, to put it another way, are you willing to die for you pretense of being a pagan?

    Naaa. You’ll be chanting “Wallah, Wallah, bing-bang” with the rest of ’em.

  49. Ilion
    November 19th, 2015 @ 8:36 am

    Also, with all the young men gone to Europe and America, who will maintain the rape statistics?

  50. NeoWayland
    November 19th, 2015 @ 9:12 am

    “Pretense?”

    Oh like wow, man. Those are some dark and heavy vibes you’re laying down. “Dem’s fightin’ words doncha know.”

    My faith and beliefs are at least as important to me as yours are to you.

    Perhaps it’s never occurred to you that a Church Militant with willing martyrs doesn’t serve the glory of a god as much as the personal power of princes, potentates, and priests.

    I could say that fighting and living serves better than dying. That, and making the place a little better before you leave.

    But since it would be useless to say without respect, why on Earth would I do that?