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Associated (Orwellian) Press

Posted on | August 19, 2010 | 50 Comments

A memo from the Ministry of Truth:

AP Standards Center issues staff advisory
on covering New York City mosque

Associated Press Deputy Managing Editor for Standards and Production Tom Kent sent the following note to the staff about covering the New York City mosque story:
Aug. 19, 2010
Colleagues,
Here is some guidance on covering the NYC mosque story, with assists from Chad Roedemeier in the NYC bureau and Terry Hunt in Washington:
1. We should continue to avoid the phrase “ground zero mosque” or “mosque at ground zero” on all platforms. (We’ve very rarely used this wording, except in slugs, though we sometimes see other news sources using the term.) The site of the proposed Islamic center and mosque is not at ground zero, but two blocks away in a busy commercial area. We should continue to say it’s “near” ground zero, or two blocks away.
WE WILL CHANGE OUR SLUG ON THIS STORY LATER TODAY from “BC-Ground Zero Mosque” to “BC-NYC Mosque.”
In short headlines, some ways to refer to the project include:
_ mosque 2 blocks from WTC site
_ Muslim (or Islamic) center near WTC site
_ mosque near ground zero
_ mosque near WTC site
We can refer to the project as a mosque, or as a proposed Islamic center that includes a mosque.
It may be useful in some stories to note that Muslim prayer services have been held since 2009 in the building that the new project will replace. The proposal is to create a new, larger Islamic community center that would include a mosque, a swimming pool, gym, auditorium and other facilities.
2. Here is a succinct summary of President Obama’s position:
Obama has said he believes Muslims have the right to build an Islamic center in New York as a matter of religious freedom, though he’s also said he won’t take a position on whether they should actually build it.
For additional background, you’ll find below a Fact Check on the project that moved yesterday.
Tom

Good-bye, “Ground Zero Mosque,” hello, “Muslim center near WTC site”!

We look forward to future AP guidelines on Pearl Harbor (“a former U.S. naval base in Hawaii”) and Treblinka (“site of a former German government detention center”).

UPDATE: Linked by Pamela Geller at Atlas Shrugs and Bob Belvedere at Camp of the Saints. Now a thread at Memeorandum.

UPDATE II: Linked by Western Rifle Shooters and (obviously) not linked by Allahpundit, although the first commenter on that post catches the Orwellian aspect: “We have always been at war with Eurasia.”

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  • http://therepublicanmother.blogspot.com republicanmother

    “In March, 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel, shipbuilding, and powder interest, and their subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press….They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers.

    “An agreement was reached; the policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information regarding the questions of preparedness, militarism, financial policies, and other things of national and international nature considered vital to the interests of the purchasers.”

    U.S. Congressman Oscar Callaway, 191

  • http://therepublicanmother.blogspot.com republicanmother

    “In March, 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel, shipbuilding, and powder interest, and their subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press….They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers.

    “An agreement was reached; the policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information regarding the questions of preparedness, militarism, financial policies, and other things of national and international nature considered vital to the interests of the purchasers.”

    U.S. Congressman Oscar Callaway, 191

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  • http://twitter.com/ilovegrover Thane Eichenauer

    I don’t understand the beef here. Is the mosque/community center ON ground zero? No. Is it near ground zero? Yes. It seems to be accurate to describe it as near ground zero. I think it would be inaccurate to use a term “ground zero mosque” if the mosque isn’t on ground zero.

    Color me puzzled.

  • http://twitter.com/ilovegrover Thane Eichenauer

    I don’t understand the beef here. Is the mosque/community center ON ground zero? No. Is it near ground zero? Yes. It seems to be accurate to describe it as near ground zero. I think it would be inaccurate to use a term “ground zero mosque” if the mosque isn’t on ground zero.

    Color me puzzled.

  • Live Free Or Die

    Since a piece of one of the airplanes that slammed into the WTC towers fell onto, and damaged, the building on the proposed site, many are properly calling it the 9-11 Debris Field Mosque. The’Too Close To Ground Zero Mosque’ works for me as well.

  • Live Free Or Die

    Since a piece of one of the airplanes that slammed into the WTC towers fell onto, and damaged, the building on the proposed site, many are properly calling it the 9-11 Debris Field Mosque. The’Too Close To Ground Zero Mosque’ works for me as well.

  • Adobe Walls

    @ Thane, the purpose of changing the terms used to describe the ground zero Mosque as not the ground zero Mosque isn’t in the interest accuracy but to prepare for the elements of spin that will be used in future coverage. For instance for several days the Socialist media kept insisting that Islamists had the constitutional right to build the Mosque on property that they owned. The Bolshevik press has attempted to create the impression that the sixty to seventy percent of Americans who want, at minimum, that the Mosque be built somewhere else don’t know that. In other words the elitist press prefers to insist that most Americans are ignorant bigots so they can prove their illusions of relevance. Since the effort to prove that all who oppose the Mosque are incapable of comprehending the constitution has failed I suspect the next step will be to prove that we can’t read a map. One might hope, futilely no doubt, that someday the MSM will come to understand that splitting very fine hairs is not the same as cleverness.
    The Cross of St George or the Crescent Moon.

  • Adobe Walls

    @ Thane, the purpose of changing the terms used to describe the ground zero Mosque as not the ground zero Mosque isn’t in the interest accuracy but to prepare for the elements of spin that will be used in future coverage. For instance for several days the Socialist media kept insisting that Islamists had the constitutional right to build the Mosque on property that they owned. The Bolshevik press has attempted to create the impression that the sixty to seventy percent of Americans who want, at minimum, that the Mosque be built somewhere else don’t know that. In other words the elitist press prefers to insist that most Americans are ignorant bigots so they can prove their illusions of relevance. Since the effort to prove that all who oppose the Mosque are incapable of comprehending the constitution has failed I suspect the next step will be to prove that we can’t read a map. One might hope, futilely no doubt, that someday the MSM will come to understand that splitting very fine hairs is not the same as cleverness.
    The Cross of St George or the Crescent Moon.

  • http://oldgrouch.mee.nu Old Grouch

    @Thane,
    Site pictures here. You be the judge.

  • http://oldgrouch.mee.nu Old Grouch

    @Thane,
    Site pictures here. You be the judge.

  • http://www.rightviewfromtheleftcoast.blogspot.com Mark J. Goluskin

    Can we now rename the ASSociated Press the Obama Press?!

  • http://www.rightviewfromtheleftcoast.blogspot.com Mark J. Goluskin

    Can we now rename the ASSociated Press the Obama Press?!

  • http://knappster.blogspot.com Thomas L. Knapp

    Let’s see if I have this right:

    1) Associated Press is going to stop lying about where it is, and maybe even about what it is.

    2) The Other McCain is going to continue lying about both.

    Do I have that right?

  • http://knappster.blogspot.com Thomas L. Knapp

    Let’s see if I have this right:

    1) Associated Press is going to stop lying about where it is, and maybe even about what it is.

    2) The Other McCain is going to continue lying about both.

    Do I have that right?

  • Jeff Weimer

    Actually, Stacy, its “Eastasia”.

    But why quibble?

  • Jeff Weimer

    Actually, Stacy, its “Eastasia”.

    But why quibble?

  • jefferson101

    @Thomas L. Knapp

    Can we all agree to just call it “The Mosque that’s really not at Ground Zero but was close enough to be inside the debris field”???

    Then we’re telling the truth, right?

  • jefferson101

    @Thomas L. Knapp

    Can we all agree to just call it “The Mosque that’s really not at Ground Zero but was close enough to be inside the debris field”???

    Then we’re telling the truth, right?

  • Adobe Walls

    Only those who do not understand the issues consider the minimal significance of a couple blocks here and there to be a difference of any distinction. It is sad that intelligent people can have so much difficulty comprehending common sense morality.
    Mr. Knapp in an infantile technically legalistic sense you have this “correct” but not “right” in any meaningful sense.

  • Adobe Walls

    Only those who do not understand the issues consider the minimal significance of a couple blocks here and there to be a difference of any distinction. It is sad that intelligent people can have so much difficulty comprehending common sense morality.
    Mr. Knapp in an infantile technically legalistic sense you have this “correct” but not “right” in any meaningful sense.

  • http://www.coldfury.com Randy Rager

    Knapp doesn’t even have it right. One of the landing gear from one of the planes struck the roof of the building being torn down to make way for this mosque, so like most Leftards on damned near everything, he’s wrong.

    I see no indication he will ever be right about anything, so we can all safely ignore his blatherings.

  • http://www.coldfury.com Randy Rager

    Knapp doesn’t even have it right. One of the landing gear from one of the planes struck the roof of the building being torn down to make way for this mosque, so like most Leftards on damned near everything, he’s wrong.

    I see no indication he will ever be right about anything, so we can all safely ignore his blatherings.

  • http://knappster.blogspot.com Thomas L. Knapp

    jefferson101,

    Since it’s not a mosque, not, we can’t all agree to call it “the mosque …”

    Per the Wahabe fundamentalists whom the project’s opponents claim are behind it, a mosque:

    1) Must publicly broadcast the call to prayer (Cordoba House won’t).

    2) May not host non-Muslim services (Cordoba House will).

    3) May not allow non-Muslims to eat or sleep there (Cordoba House’s halal food court will be open to all).

    It’s a cultural center with a prayer room, not a mosque.

    Rager,

    The term “ground zero” has several definitions, all of which are specific and none of which can, even under their most liberal interpretations, be stretched to encompass a point two blocks from the target of a non-nuclear attack.

    It’s not a mosque. It’s not at “Ground Zero.”

    Anyone calling it “the Ground Zero mosque” is either a liar or a moron. And I don’t believe for a minute that Stacy and Smitty are morons, so that narrows it down, doesn’t it?

  • http://knappster.blogspot.com Thomas L. Knapp

    jefferson101,

    Since it’s not a mosque, not, we can’t all agree to call it “the mosque …”

    Per the Wahabe fundamentalists whom the project’s opponents claim are behind it, a mosque:

    1) Must publicly broadcast the call to prayer (Cordoba House won’t).

    2) May not host non-Muslim services (Cordoba House will).

    3) May not allow non-Muslims to eat or sleep there (Cordoba House’s halal food court will be open to all).

    It’s a cultural center with a prayer room, not a mosque.

    Rager,

    The term “ground zero” has several definitions, all of which are specific and none of which can, even under their most liberal interpretations, be stretched to encompass a point two blocks from the target of a non-nuclear attack.

    It’s not a mosque. It’s not at “Ground Zero.”

    Anyone calling it “the Ground Zero mosque” is either a liar or a moron. And I don’t believe for a minute that Stacy and Smitty are morons, so that narrows it down, doesn’t it?

  • Adobe Walls

    Semantics. No matter what the actual intentions of the people who want this “place” built, there are realities that can not be changed. The “moderate Muslim” (a Yeti like creature. Much is heard of them but very little from them) may insist that he only wants to build bridges. I doubt he is stupid enough to believe that will be the results. There will be Islamists who regard this as a monument to their 9/11 victory. No amount of good will or wishful thinking can alter that fact. There will be Americans who know that this building will be a victory monument to Islam’s murder of almost 3000 people. No amount of high minded bullsh*t about our enemies rights or “good intentions” can change that fact.
    The Cross of St George or the Crescent Moon. I’ve chosen my side.

  • Adobe Walls

    Semantics. No matter what the actual intentions of the people who want this “place” built, there are realities that can not be changed. The “moderate Muslim” (a Yeti like creature. Much is heard of them but very little from them) may insist that he only wants to build bridges. I doubt he is stupid enough to believe that will be the results. There will be Islamists who regard this as a monument to their 9/11 victory. No amount of good will or wishful thinking can alter that fact. There will be Americans who know that this building will be a victory monument to Islam’s murder of almost 3000 people. No amount of high minded bullsh*t about our enemies rights or “good intentions” can change that fact.
    The Cross of St George or the Crescent Moon. I’ve chosen my side.

  • http://datechguy.wordpress.com datechguy

    I can see the AP meeting now: “Can we call it a Tallywacker?”

  • http://datechguy.wordpress.com datechguy

    I can see the AP meeting now: “Can we call it a Tallywacker?”

  • http://alankhenderson.blogspot.com/ Alan K. Henderson

    So, does the AP have a track record of consistently refraining from close-but-technically-inaccurate popular nicknames and catchphrases?

    How about the Ground One Mosque?

  • http://alankhenderson.blogspot.com/ Alan K. Henderson

    So, does the AP have a track record of consistently refraining from close-but-technically-inaccurate popular nicknames and catchphrases?

    How about the Ground One Mosque?

  • http://knappster.blogspot.com Thomas L. Knapp

    “Semantics.”

    Fuckin’a skippy, semantics (“the study of the meanings of words”).

    Words mean things.

  • http://knappster.blogspot.com Thomas L. Knapp

    “Semantics.”

    Fuckin’a skippy, semantics (“the study of the meanings of words”).

    Words mean things.

  • FenelonSpoke

    Great; It’s a “cultural center with a prayer room” where no doubt, women without veils are welcome as are gays, Jews and Christians. The man behind it is very sensitive to the feelings of people who had “lost” loved ones in 9/11 but he wouldn’t think of moving it somewhere else. It just happened to be named Cordoba because he liked the car by that name. He thinks sharia is compatible with American law but he doesn’t really “think think” that. His wife Daisy thought that they might have to do a little “hand holding” (exact quote) with families opposed to it, but didn’t realize the opposition. She sounds like a very thoughtful, sensitive person too.

  • FenelonSpoke

    Great; It’s a “cultural center with a prayer room” where no doubt, women without veils are welcome as are gays, Jews and Christians. The man behind it is very sensitive to the feelings of people who had “lost” loved ones in 9/11 but he wouldn’t think of moving it somewhere else. It just happened to be named Cordoba because he liked the car by that name. He thinks sharia is compatible with American law but he doesn’t really “think think” that. His wife Daisy thought that they might have to do a little “hand holding” (exact quote) with families opposed to it, but didn’t realize the opposition. She sounds like a very thoughtful, sensitive person too.

  • jefferson101

    Thomas L. Knapp, re #13

    That’s what they are telling us now. Once it’s built, and they change their minds?

    And when they start broadcasting the call to prayer over the new loudspeakers, they’ll have a court case over denying them the freedom to practice their religion.

    Yes semantics do matter. What are the semantics of the word prevarication, and how may one apply them, based on historical precedents?

  • jefferson101

    Thomas L. Knapp, re #13

    That’s what they are telling us now. Once it’s built, and they change their minds?

    And when they start broadcasting the call to prayer over the new loudspeakers, they’ll have a court case over denying them the freedom to practice their religion.

    Yes semantics do matter. What are the semantics of the word prevarication, and how may one apply them, based on historical precedents?

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  • Kojocaro

    hey thomas l knappy head when the imam forbids any infidels from entering will you stfu about all religions being allowed in you nutsack

  • Kojocaro

    hey thomas l knappy head when the imam forbids any infidels from entering will you stfu about all religions being allowed in you nutsack

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  • http://twitter.com/ilovegrover/status/21110554718 Thane Eichenauer

    How about we call it the baby mosque (inside a 13 story Muslim community center) ‘cuz that way everyone will love it because everybody loves babies.

  • http://twitter.com/ilovegrover/status/21110554718 Thane Eichenauer

    How about we call it the baby mosque (inside a 13 story Muslim community center) ‘cuz that way everyone will love it because everybody loves babies.

  • http://gunrights4usall.blogspot.com/ GunRights4US

    Regarding whether it is, or is not, part of the ground zero site, look at it this way:

    Is it close enough for muslim fanatics (am I being redundant here?) to brag to one another that they’ve built a mosque on an American “holy place”? I certainly think so, and thus it is appropriate for us here in the preconstruction phase to refer to it as the Ground Zero mosque.

    Close your eyes and think back to the day the planes struck the twin towers; now visualize the TV news reports of palestinians dancing and cheering in the streets of Gaza.

    There. Now does that clear it up for you?

  • http://gunrights4usall.blogspot.com/ GunRights4US

    Regarding whether it is, or is not, part of the ground zero site, look at it this way:

    Is it close enough for muslim fanatics (am I being redundant here?) to brag to one another that they’ve built a mosque on an American “holy place”? I certainly think so, and thus it is appropriate for us here in the preconstruction phase to refer to it as the Ground Zero mosque.

    Close your eyes and think back to the day the planes struck the twin towers; now visualize the TV news reports of palestinians dancing and cheering in the streets of Gaza.

    There. Now does that clear it up for you?

  • http://twitter.com/ilovegrover/status/21110554718 Thane Eichenauer

    Fair enough point GunRights4US, although I still disagree. I wonder how much of the tens of billions of dollars that the US government is spending to occupy Iraq and Afghanistan could instead be spent to ensure that the WTC/Pentagon bombing doesn’t occur again.

  • http://twitter.com/ilovegrover/status/21110554718 Thane Eichenauer

    Fair enough point GunRights4US, although I still disagree. I wonder how much of the tens of billions of dollars that the US government is spending to occupy Iraq and Afghanistan could instead be spent to ensure that the WTC/Pentagon bombing doesn’t occur again.

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