The Other McCain

"One should either write ruthlessly what one believes to be the truth, or else shut up." — Arthur Koestler

Nobody’s Fault But Mine

Posted on | December 23, 2010 | 48 Comments

“I’m not particularly interested in debating What Assange Did or Whether Assange Is A Rapist, and I’d appreciate it if we could steer clear of that in the comments section. Rather, I’m interested in pushing back on the primary media narrative about this case, which is that women lie and exaggerate about rape, and will call even the littlest thing — a broken condom! — rape if they’re permitted to under a too-liberal feminist legal system.”
Jill Filipovic, “Some thoughts on ‘sex by surprise’”

What Dan Collins calls a “kerfuffle” began with my reaction to that Dec. 6 post at Feministing. Understand that what inspired Filipovic’s lecture was commentary from progressive defenders of Julian Assange who evidently bought into his version of the Stockholm incident that led to the rape accusations against him.

Filipovic claimed she was doing a pushback on a “media narrative . . . that women lie and exaggerate about rape,” but if there was any such narrative about the Assange case, I must have missed it. What self-evidently was developing was that Assange’s defenders (notably including Keith Olbermann) were twisting themselves into pretzels and resorting to conspiracy theories — promoted by a Holocaust denier! – to explain how their International Hero of World Peace™ could not possibly also be a craven exploiter of women.

This, you see, was the occasion for Filipovic to launch into a lecture about “no means no” and “stop means stop,” and to generalize about a supposed media trend toward minimizing the seriousness of rape.

Perhaps you understand why that pissed me off. As I said, it reminded me of Whoopi Goldberg arguing about whether Roman Polanski committed “rape rape.”

Running Around With Sharp Sticks 

The Swedish authorities were prosecuting one man — an idol of the anti-American Left — and yet here was Filipovic trying to turn it into an online Take Back the Night rally, frightening readers with a dystopian nightmare scenario where, were it not for the Courageous Vanguard of the Progressive Sisterhood, every woman who agreed to cuddle could be penetrated in every manner imaginable, against her will, without any legal recourse.

Angry at Filipovic’s blatant attempt to hijack the Assange case (and distract readers from the “mind-bending contradictions” it exposed), my initial reaction was sufficiently flawed that even some of my regular readers complained and I felt compelled to walk it back, among other things adding this critique of Filipovic’s variety of “pro-sex feminism”:

“The International Society for Running Around With Sharp Sticks cannot also command respect as the International Society for Eye Safety.”

Let us stipulate that any situation where a man and a woman are alone together could conceivably expose the woman to harm by the man. Nevertheless, some situations are more obviously risky than others, and the woman who consents to sex with a man she barely knows — as Julian Assange’s Swedish accusers did — is more at risk for harm than women who avoid such casual hook-ups.

Rather than cautioning women against casual hook-ups, however, the pro-sex feminists say, “Go for it!” — and then attempt to absolve themselves of responsibility for the inevitably harmful consequences of their doctrine by, among other things, lecturing us endlessly about the protocols of consent.

Anything bad that happens to women as a result of following feminist advice is the fault of the Oppressive Partiarchy.

If everything Assange’s accusers have said about their “dates” with him is true, then the International Hero of World Peace™ is most certainly a creep and quite possibly guilty of rape or sexual assault. This is not something I have ever disputed; anything that puts Julian Assange behind bars is fine with me.

Yet it is also the case that if everything Assange’s accusers have said about their “dates” with him is true, their own actions were extraordinarily foolish. They put themselves at risk. 

Where in all of Jill Filipovic’s lecturing about the Assange case was there any caution to women against putting themselves at risk?

Where is Filipovic’s warning against inviting a man to stay at your apartment, letting him stroke your leg during tea and not voicing any objection to such intimacies until after he has begun to undress you? (Which is the case as alleged by 31-year-old Anna Ardin.) Where is Filipovic’s warning against going to bed with a man two days after you first met him? (Which is the case as alleged by 27-year-old Sofia Willen.)

Until Hell Freezes Over

This was my target: The “pro-sex feminist” philosophy that enthusiastically endorses the casual promiscuity of the Hook-Up Culture while attempting to evade responsibility for the (entirely predictable) bad consequences which ensue when that philosophy is enacted in the real world, where not everybody is operating in scrupulous accordance with the Jill Filipovic Protocols of Consensuality.

My aim at that target was unfortunately inaccurate. I offended people I did not mean to offend with a flawed argument that was subject to misinterpretation. And so after a couple of days of trying to dig myself out of a hole that only grew deeper in the process, I stopped digging.

While I was (and still am) willing to fight feminists until hell freezes over — and then fight them on the ice — the matter became complicated when Tommy Christopher decided to jump on the dogpile:

Popular right-wing blogger Robert Stacy McCain (The Other McCain) has used an examination of Julian Assange’s sexual assault allegations as a springboard to a jaw-dropping assessment of the right of a woman to withdraw consent for sex.

But I didn’t say anything about women’s “right . . . to withdraw consent.” My argument wasn’t about “rights” at all. Rather, my target was the absurd impracticality of Filipovic’s doctrine when I wrote:

I think many people who look at life from a practical, common-sense perspective will react to Jill’s fine scruples about the process of ensuring mutual consent much like I did: Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
Is this what all that ’60s “sexual liberation” rhetoric has wrought?
In an era when some 40% of U.S. births are to unmarried women, in a culture where “Girls Gone Wild” and “hook-ups” are normative, where threesomes, bisexual experimentation and amateur video-porn orgies have become a virtual rite of passage for many young Americans, where chlamydia and herpes are pandemic — in this era of rampant sexual decadence, I say, does Jill Filipovic (J.D., NYU) seriously expect horny strangers to negotiate consent calmly on an act-by-act basis while they’re knocking boots, making the beast with two backs, in flagrante delicto?

One does not undermine a woman’s “right . . . to withdraw consent” by observing that such a right may prove exceptionaly difficult to protect under the typical circumstances prevailing when people engage in recklessly promiscuous behavior.

Does Tommy Christopher believe that caveat emptor is bad advice in the sexual marketplace? Isn’t it wise for women to be cautious in choosing their partners, and also in choosing the circumstances under which intimacy occurs? Or is the time to be concerned about a woman’s rights only after her rights have been violated? Is rape an exception to the old adage that an ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure?

Of ‘Hooey’ and ‘Filthy Whores’

Well, so much for Tommy Christopher, for now. As I say, the argument I actually made wasn’t quite the same as the argument I intended to make and my invocation of Hunter S. Thompson’s maxim — “Buy the Ticket, Take the Ride” — particularly offended people. Recognizing that I was in violation of the First Law of Holes, I stopped digging. And then a blogger I never heard of compared me to serial killer John Wayne Gacy, falsely describing me as part of the so-called “Men’s Movement.”

This kind of “dogpile” reaction bothered me, but there was other news to write about. And then on Tuesday, apropos of nothing that I’d done in the previous two weeks, feminist* Republican Anna Tarkov put up a blog post with the provocative headline:

Got raped? It’s your own fault, you filthy whore.

To which I responded in part:

It’s a he-said/she-said situation, and how did Assange’s victims get themselves into that predicament? By hooking up with an asshole. . . . In what alternative universe am I a ”misogynist” for pointing out the erroneous judgment involved in that decision? As I said in response to Amanda Marcotte, “this is like saying I’m in favor of third-degree burns if I warn children not to play with fire.”

Tarkov linked Tommy Christopher in her post,which is rather suggestive of where she got the idea to lash out at me for a two-week-old post. This occurred after an intense furor over Michael Moore going on Keith Olbermann’s show to dismiss the rape accusations against Julian Assange as “hooey.”  So while other conservatives were popping popcorn to enjoy that left-on-left meltdown, it seems, Tommy Christopher was feeding me to the feminist sharks.

And then it got worse when a Republican communications strategist sent out this Tweet:

Must read by @annatarkov deconstructing Robert Stacy McCain’s attack on rape victims as whores http://bit.ly/fKvgYH

Holy freaking crap. Do you see what I’m talking about? It’s like the telephone game. On Dec. 7, Tommy Christopher tendentiously excerpts my Dec. 6 post. Two weeks later, a feminist* Republican blogger even more tendentiously excerpts the same post, and now this “deconstruction” (!) is promoted on Twitter as a “must read” by a Republican communications strategist.

Let regular readers of this blog think how many things I’ve posted here that they would consider “must read” items. A helluva lot, I hope you’ll agree. Here was a (rather influential) Republican promoting as “must read” a leftist* Republican who concluded her post by declaring: “I’d like to hear some explanations now on why anyone should ever read another word this disgusting misogynist ever pens. I know I won’t.”
* My confusion about Tarkov explained below.

When I saw that on Twitter, of course, my reaction was “Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?” And the Republican communications strategist then sent me a series of questions to which I responded in a post bluntly titled: “Rape: I’m Against It.”

Commenters asked me to identify the Republican communications strategist, but there is no need for that. And for that matter, forget about Assange, forget about his accusers, forget all about the “he-said/she-said” at the heart of this case in Sweden. We can get back to that in a minute.

Instead, focus your mind on the process by which I ended up becoming Scapegoat Of The Day on Dec. 21 for an offensive post I’d written on Dec. 6 — a post which I had walked back almost immediately after I first posted it!

Don’t Tell Me It’s Raining

Future Bloggers of America, beware: If you ever post anything that contains two sentences which can be used to suggest that you hold obnoxious opinions, those two sentences will be endlessly cut-and-pasted around the Internet so that, if all anyone knows about you is what they read on the Internet, you might as well have those two sentences tattooed on your forehead.

And it doesn’t matter, by the way, how many millions of other words you might have written that would tend to contradict your Dreaded Two Sentences of Obnoxiousness.

It’s the telephone game, you see. The fact that I was responding to Jill Filipovic, and the nature of my disagreement with Filipovic’s feminist philosophy, got lost somewhere in the Tommy Christopher/Anna Tarkov exchange that resulted in my Dreaded Two Sentences of Obnoxiousness (OK, maybe it was more like four paragraphs, but let’s not quibble) coming to the attention of the Republican communications strategist.

Mea culpa. My original post was badly argued, as I freely admit. I further admit the possibility that reasonable people can disagree with my opinions, although I insist that it is mere name-calling to label me a “misogynist” or a “rape apologist.”

And that dude who compared me to a serial killer has thereby put his name on a short list he probably doesn’t want to be on.

Again: Mea culpa. If I write something stupid, this is nobody’s fault but mine, and I cannot blame people who hate me for taking advantage of my own stupidity.

“Never give ‘em a stick to beat you with,” one of my mentors often advised, and if nothing else, I’m guilty of having disregarded that advice.

But the person who picks up that stick and beats me over the head with it, and then starts passing the stick around, inviting others to take a whack at me, is not my friend.

Don’t piss down my back and tell me it’s raining.”

* * * * * * * *

Now, there are some link-backs owed to the good people who defended me in this “kerfuffle,” and I’ll add those in updates in a little while. But first, some appropriate music.

UPDATE: Just dandy. Yet another screw-up. Having described Anna Tarkov as a “leftist,” I now discover that she’s some kind of Republican.

Mea culpa all over again. Ever had one of those days when you get everything wrong?

But what was that thing about her posting the Assange video? Also, how is it that Tarkov (according to her LinkedIn profile) is connected to 47 people who are connected to me and yet none of them schooled her for having denounced me so viciously? Why is it that so few of my friends ever speak up for me when I’m on the receiving end of this kind of beatdown?

UPDATE II: Honest, I am going to get around to doing those link-backs, but first I want to point out why it was so easy to jump to the (evidently erroneous) conclusion that Anna Tarkov is a leftist/feminist.

Generally speaking, I am known to conservative bloggers as a fellow conservative and, while we don’t always agree – e.g., when I got into it with Jim Geraghty, et al, over the Delaware Senate primary — our Red-on-Red arguments seldom start with somebody I never heard of calling me a “disgusting misogynist.”

When I’m going toe-to-toe with leftists (a category that certainly includes Jill Filipovic), my typical response to any sudden incoming fire is to return fire for maximum effect on the reasonable assumption that the source of the incoming fire is hostile.

When you’re a Jet, you’re a Jet all the way
From your first cigarette ’til your last dyin’ day.

If you want to be a Jet, don’t stab me in the back while I’m fighting the Sharks.

UPDATE III: “Not that Stacy isn’t a creep sometimes,” begins Little Miss Atilla’s rather ambivalent response — and that’s OK. She’s my friend. Friends can criticize friends and then Atilla can buy me beers at the next CPAC to apologize. And she makes a relevant point:

Here’s the thing: I don’t want to live in a world in which every ill-considered, regrettable drunken hookup by 20-year-olds can be recast as an assault if one party (usually the woman) has misgivings the next day.

Having once been a 20-year-old, I am aware that “ill-considered, regrettable” is very closely correlated to “drunken hookup.” The amazing thing about Julian Assange’s Less-Than-Excellent Swedish Adventure is that apparently all of the participants were sober. And none of them were 20 years old.

UPDATE IV: Donald Douglas at American Power was probably first in line for FMJRA action here, and I’m sorry he’s getting sloppy seconds — er, so to speak. First, there’s the obligatory video of Michael Moore making the requisite Maddow kowtow:

That was something I’d meant to blog when I first saw it, but didn’t. (Stuff happens.) Donald then blogged about the “rehabilitation” of Michael Moore — you may miss the inside joke there, if you aren’t a student of Marxism in action.

And now, mirabile dictu, Donald brings tidings that a female writer for Washington City Paper has been fired for an article critical of Assange’s accusers.

It’s like following the peregrinations of the “Popular Front” circa 1939-41: One minute no one can criticize Assange and his accusers are CIA stooges. The next minute, no one can criticize the accusers and Assange is the Worst Person in the World.

So now I just checked Memeorandum and saw this:

WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange Fires Back at ‘Idiot’ Critics

Please, leftists: Tell us what the party line is today.

Are we supposed to agree with Assange or with the idiots? At this point, we can play it either way.

UPDATE V: Reason‘s Cathy Young’s offers a late entry for Understatement of the Year: “Some feminists are not amused.” She writes:

[R]emoving any element of actual or threatened force from the crime of rape makes it too easy to criminalize miscommunications and morning-after regrets. Should non-consent require a firm “Stop!” or does it cover a hesitant or coy “Maybe we should stop” — perhaps accompanied by actions that contradict the words? . . .
[W]hen rape law is used to regulate “sexual manners” rather than sexual violence, it has seriously strayed from its purpose.

So Cathy Young is obviously into “rape apologism,” and maybe that means Professor Glenn Reynolds is John Wayne Gacy for linking her.

What evidently vexes Young is the attempt to re-define rape so as to maximize the potential number of women who can consider themselves victims. Tabitha Hale takes square aim at what she calls the “Culture of Victimhood” involved:

A rampant culture of victimhood does nothing to empower women, and removing them of all responsibility in every situation is demeaning. Again, women are not responsible for rape in any instance, and the “she was asking for it” argument is generally noxious. However, using [accusations of] rape as a weapon against someone you’ve decided you want to destroy is inexcusable, and should be treated as such.

Many who have looked at Assange’s alleged crimes in Sweden (including his defense attorney) have pointed to the belated nature of the accusations, and the fact that neither of the two women pressed went to police until they’d compared notes and realized he’d slept with both of them, as evidence that the accusations were motivated by vengeance.

Of course, it’s not an either-or proposition: It could be true that his accusers were motivated by vengeance and still also be true that Assange’s actions were criminal. Yet because of the he-said/she-said nature of the accusations, the ambiguity of the situation provides the “reasonable doubt” that will probably make it very difficult to convict Assange of rape.

If Assange were as smart as he thinks he is, he would exercise his right to remain silent. Anything he says or writes about the incident — trying to push back against his accusers in a media P.R. battle — can and will be used against him in a court of law, especially if he takes the witness stand in his own defense.

“But Mr. Assange, didn’t you tell the BBC . . .?”

UPDATE VI: Welcome, Linkiest readers!

Makes My Brain Itch laments the “pussification” of American men. Actually, there’s something more complex at work. “Pussification” goes hand-in-hand with the New Barbarism. On the one hand, you have guys who are totally intimidated by women, and on the other hand you have guys who are boorish thugs toward women. And of course, the thugs get more women, a phenomenon that inspires endless frustration for the pussified guys. What is increasingly uncommon is sturdy, reliable, confident masculinity.

Charles G. Hill awards me “Refudiation of the Week” and Da Tech Guy boils his response down to three words: “Don’t be stupid.” 

UPDATE VII: Regular readers of this blog will perhaps be interested to know that you’ve been called “A Cult of Degenerates” — and the dreaded War Oath of Clan Cameron has been invoked.

Merry Christmas! :D

PREVIOUSLY:

Bookmark and Share

Comments

  • Joe

    As they say over at Protein Wisdom, “egrets, I’ve had a few…”

  • Joe

    As they say over at Protein Wisdom, “egrets, I’ve had a few…”

  • Joe

    Merry Christmas and Happy Festivus to you and your family. Same to Smitty and Wombat.

    I recommend drinking starting about now and continuing through New Years. Lets’ the Airing of Grievances begin! Followed of course by the Feats of Strength.

  • http://saberpoint.blogspot.com Stogie Chomper

    RSM, so you’re a “disgusting misogynist”? That is so unfair. You are certainly not disgusting!

    Amigo, you sure seem to draw the attention of people with overdeveloped adrenal glands. I wonder if Anna Tarkov thought Bill Clinton was a “misogynist”? Probably not, he’s a fellow airhead liberal.

    As for the idiot at NewsRreal blog, where does this jackass get off saying your readers are some kind of Men’s Movement Groupies? This moron hasn’t got a clue and I have no idea what David Horowitz was thinking by letting this leftist post at his site.

  • ewb

    The truth is all that matters. And most folks know the truth. Keep on keeping on. We appreciate you. It’s okay.

  • http://twitter.com/Jerry_Wilson Jerry Wilson

    I’d say something here, but it’d probably be made out as a personal attack on someone. So instead I’ll say this:

    Stacey, you were right in your first post, you’ve been right ever since, and you have nothing to apologize for. To anyone.

  • http://saberpoint.blogspot.com Stogie Chomper

    Stacy, I went over to Newsreal blog and unloaded on that poseur who made the stupid comments about you and this blog. I also noted in my comment that David Horowitz should NOT allow him to publish on Newsreal again.

  • TR Sterling

    Moral of a story of people with no morals? How about: Dont try and fend off a pack of wild dogs with a T-bone steak in your hand? or on the canine theme, If you see dog-poop on the sidewalk, walk around it, not through it. Or in the case of Assange, if you sleep with dogs, you wake up with fleas: morphing to “if you criticize a wild dog on the internet, they will react just like a wounded wild dog” woof
    Carry on Mr. Other.

  • MrPaulRevere

    I agree emphatically. If I thought Mr. McCain was the cartoon caricature his critics make him out to be I would never have hit the tip jar. It looks like Horowitz’s blog needs some adult supervision as well.

  • http://twitter.com/YetAnotherITGuy C.Robinson

    RSM, I understood what you were getting at the first time, which should have been obvious to anybody that read your entire post and considered the summary argument, rather than focusing on a specific (and somewhat less than tactfully expressed) point.

    Ann Coulter made a similar observation a few years ago regarding the (bogus) Lacrosse rape case — men significantly reduce their chances of being accused of rape when they don’t pay strange women to take off their clothes at drunken parties and likewise, women significantly reduce their likelihood of being raped if they don’t accept money to take off their clothes in rooms full of drunken, rowdy men. Something about common sense and personal responsibility…

  • http://www.greenvilledragnet.com/ RobTaylor

    Then perhaps you’d like to stop by my site tomorrow when I re-publish Stacy’s hilarious conversation with me where he crys like one of you men’s movement sissies. There you can “unload” on me which is clearly not Freudian at all.

    By the way, funny that you immediately call for censorship when you disagree, sort of like Stacy did with people who complained about McCain fellating the “Southern Nationalist” movement. I take it you’re the Kilgore Trout to McCain’s Charles Johnson.

  • http://www.greenvilledragnet.com/ RobTaylor

    Another lie McCain? Really?

    If you read my peic3e you’d see I didn’t compare you to a serial killer, I applied the logic of the theory that date rape is nebulous at best to the world’s most famous date rapist – John Wayne Gacy. Subtle distinction? Only if you’re retarded.

  • http://www.greenvilledragnet.com/ RobTaylor

    You know it’s funny. On December 8th we discussed my piece at length and I told you then what the Gacy reference meant, and that I thought you were being purposefully disingenuous in arguing otherwise. But since your LGF-like cult won’t actually read the piece only take your word for what it says (because they’re suckers, which is why they take you seriously) I guess you thought you could just slip that one by.

  • vermontaigne

    The to-and-fro is still going on at Little Miss Attila’s. Grrrrrrr.

  • Anonymous

    Mr. Taylor, let us be clear about what happened here: You attacked me, in public, using David Horowitz’s platform, without warning or notice.

    Rather than to reply to this assault publicly, I privately communicated my displeasure — to you, to your editor David Swindle, and to Mr. Horowitz. And then I walked away from it, until today, after this whole telephone-game routine had come full circle.

    You, Mr. Taylor, now want to respond to this by publishing private correspondence?

    You may think I’m Fredo Corleone. But you’re Moe Green.

    It’s short list, my friend. And you don’t want to be on it.

  • Hubris Whacker

    Everyone and everything censors, including you. The only kind that matters is the By Law kind. No one has the right to their own facts, and suppressing lies is, by definition, censorship. Read the Constitution, develop some constitution, and stop being a buffoon.

  • Peregrine John

    I’m stuck back where Jill wanted to push back against the truth.

  • http://www.greenvilledragnet.com/ RobTaylor

    No Stacy I attacked an idea you had on a website and you whined to me until I told you to stop emailing me. Then the issue was dead, your traffic got low so you wanted to stir the pot again.

    Emails aren’t private. They’re mine, because they were sent to me over the public Internet and reside in my inbox. You may want to consult your lawyer (in his armchair) about the nuances of the Internet.

    This short list of your sounds like a threat. Did you finish that copy of Iron John? Drum circle got you feeling froggy?

    I also find the Moe Green to be part of some overarching threat. Are you going to have me killed like Greene was in the novel, or will you wait until the baptism a la the movie.

    There’ nothing sadder than a baby boomer and his film references.

  • http://www.greenvilledragnet.com/ RobTaylor

    How is an argument against a theory a lie? Let me guess, when it hurts the feelings of Dear Leader McCain it should be censored.

  • MrPaulRevere

    Lemme break something down for you pal, I have a bookcase half full of Horowitz’s books, but if you continue with this juvenile tantrum, he will never see another dime from me. Perhaps you should read Walter Hudson’s first comment from your post.

  • http://twitter.com/AmPowerBlog Donald Douglas
  • http://www.greenvilledragnet.com/ RobTaylor

    Why’s that? Because your feelings are hurt? The feelings you have vicariously through Stacy McCain.

    Maybe you should read the the comments from the first time my article was posted, not the less well trafficked re-posting of it. But then that would be too much of an inconvenience for everyone I’m sure.

    So to be clear – Stacy Mccain posts a thinly veiled threat against me while literally lying about what I’ve written and that’s acceptable. I respond to the th4rewats and leis and I’m being juvenile.

    It really is just like LGF here.

  • MrPaulRevere

    Actually I just read all of the comments, Calvin chewed you up and spit you out. You are fixated on the phrase “you buy the ticket, you take the ride” quote and you fill in the blanks with nonsense and insinuations. By the way, Firefox has a built in spell checker, check into it.

  • Anonymous

    Stacy Mccain posts a thinly veiled threat against me while literally lying about what I’ve written and that’s acceptable.

    Let’s be perfectly clear, Mr. Taylor: There was no “threat,” thinly veiled or otherwise. You put your name on a short list, as I said.

    You attacked me in a very lengthy post. When I e-mailed you to object, you doubled down. Now you come into the comments of my blog to complain that I am threatening you, and that I have lied about you.

    Whatever. Everything I’ve written about you, I’ve written on my own bandwidth. And this isn’t anything like LGF because — in case it escaped your notice — your comments are being published.

    Just how much rope do you need, Mr. Taylor?

  • http://saberpoint.blogspot.com Stogie Chomper

    Rob, you’re the moral equivalent of a liar, grossly misrepresenting Stacy’s position. Yes, I do call for censorship, in that a posturing and posing liberal like you has no business on a conservative site NewsReal. As for Charles Johnson and Kilgore Trout, you are much closer to their mindset than either Stacy or I am.

  • http://saberpoint.blogspot.com Stogie Chomper

    I answered that. It is a lie when it is based on a false premise and when when it misrepresents the other side, as you did. You can’t refute what Stacy said so you refuted what he didn’t say, a typical straw man argument.

  • http://saberpoint.blogspot.com Stogie Chomper

    No Rob, actually, emails are private and copyrighted unless you notify the writer in advance that you plan to publish them and he offers no objection.

  • MrPaulRevere

    Submitted without comment from David Swindle at the Newsreal blog: “Kind of an ironic comment given that Rob’s a Pagan.”

  • Joe

    Why is it that so few of my friends ever speak up for me when I’m on the receiving end of this kind of beatdown?

    Maybe fear you will shake the tip jar?

  • Charles Johnson

    Yes it is. Yes it is. Hey wait, no it isn’t. No it isn’t.

  • Pingback: I have only one thing to say about the great Assange debate « Da Techguy's Blog

  • Bernie Tenney

    I am the holder of several obnoxious opinions, none of which I will apologize for.
    None of them favor Racism, Rape, or legalization of Marijuana. They do howevever advocate for responsible Citizenship, closing the Border and kicking Michael Moore’s Ass until his nose bleeds.

  • Mark A

    A “kerfuffle” is usually caused by hitting a raw nerve of truth. Like your original post. Worthy of a tip-jar hit. It didn’t work the last time I tried though. You should check into that.

  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

    I can’t read all this. What exactly are you apologizing for again? Let’s see, two women claim to have had sex with a guy who wouldn’t stop when they told him to, and you said they more or less brought it on themselves, if I understand you correctly. Is that it? You said they “asked for it” in a manner of speaking?

    So did you also call them bitches, whores, sluts, prick-teasers, etc? If so, do me a favor. Once you’re through apologizing for yourself, go ahead and apologize for me as well and save me the trouble.

    On second thought, no, don’t do that.

  • Pingback: Special Link Post: Christmas Eve Edition | Conservative Hideout 2.0

  • http://rightnetwork.com Joy W. McCann

    But I’m done, and it’s no fun without me. And now I apparently owe Stace a beer, which is fair enough.

  • Pingback: Stacy McCain Knows I Didn’t Compare Him to John Wayne Gacy : Greenville Dragnet

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for the link!

    Though, to be honest, I’m puzzled. I mentioned “pussification” as a side effect, and thought it was the least of the points I was trying to make. But I appreciate the linkage.

  • http://saberpoint.blogspot.com Stogie Chomper

    Mark, I had the same trouble with the tip jar. You have to press “update the total” (or words to that effect) before the Paypal site will allow you to continue with the transaction.

  • Pingback: ‘Cult of Degenerates’ : The Other McCain

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chuck-Coffer/1296650908 Chuck Coffer

    “Let’s see, two women claim to have had sex with a guy who wouldn’t stop when they told him to”

    The notion that consensual sex could “turn into” rape is an insult to rape.

  • http://twitter.com/amy_vrwc Amy Miller

    Don’t worry about it, Stacy, this is what Rob Taylor does. He whines, cries, and wastes his time slamming people on the internet by making things up and presenting them as fact. Hell, he turned me into a pedophile sympathizer in the span of two comments.

    Don’t worry about this unhinged jerkoff. If he keeps bugging you, I’ll post the unhinged string of comments he and the rest of his NewsReal freakshow shot at me.

  • http://annatarkov.posterous.com Anna Tarkov

    Robert, I have been carefully staying out of this but I will leave a comment here to clear the air and then we’ll leave it at that.

    I am not a Republican. However, I have voted for Republican candidates for office in the past and might still be registered as such though I’m not certain.

    I am not a Democrat though I have voted for Democratic and Independent candidates in the past.

    I am not a leftist.

    I am not a right-winger.

    I AM a feminist, because I believe (unlike you) that the term carries mostly positive implications. I expect that you can appreciate that, as with any movement, there is disagreement among feminists as to objectives and methods. Thus two women can be feminists even if one of them is pro-life and other is not, etc., etc.

    Some of the things I believe could be ascribed to the left-wing agenda, some to the right.

    As is hopefully becoming abundantly clear, I dislike all of these labels. I think they are short-sighted and limiting and you seem to have discovered one of the problems with them: making a mistake in labeling someone. It’s really easy to avoid actually. DON’T LABEL.

    Politicians or people running for office have made an official choice. People like you who are open about being on the right or left have staked a position as well. The rest of us have not. So please don’t plant the stake for us. As it is, it’s exceedingly hard to do. What “test” does someone have to pass to be called a Republican or a Democrat?

    Now, I realize that after going on and on about why you shouldn’t label people (especially in a knee-jerk way), I have labeled you as a misogynist. I am willing to allow that I could be mistaken. Unfortunately there’s no way to know for sure and I assume you’re not interested in proving it to me anyway. I’m not interested in it either. While I don’t agree with your views, they are not exactly uncommon in what we like to imagine is a modern and enlightened society. So what I mean is, there are bigger fish to fry.

    Let’s also all remind ourselves that people who know us best and those we love are the ones whose opinions we should care about. I didn’t lose a minute of sleep over the things you wrote about me, because I know that those who matter to me truly know me and my intentions. I hope you feel the same way about your own reputation.

  • http://twitter.com/dicentra63 Dicentra spectabilis

    The sexual revolution did us women no favors at all. Not one.

    All it did was change the default from “if ya want it, you gotta put a ring on it” to “third date is The Night,” so instead of a woman having to say “yes” to contravene the default message, (which men are glad to accommodate), she has to say “no,” (which men don’t like At All).

    Thanks for nuthin’ Boomers. Thanks for being so terminally stupid it hurts.

  • http://twitter.com/dicentra63 Dicentra spectabilis

    “Emails aren’t private. They’re mine”

    It’s a violation of Netiquette to publish emails without the permission of all involved parties, regardless of what some lawyer might say.

    You want to get up on a high horse, don’t start by violating confidences.

  • Pingback: No Meaning No Doesn’t Mean Stupid Isn’t Stupid « Goldfish and Clowns. Where God's not dead and neither are we.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KWSIEXJ3MMWUOCUUYWRLY7TXQM dunce

    The complaintents said they would drop the charges if he would consent to an aids test.Why would he go to all this trouble if he thought he was healthy? This is sweden and swedish law defined by swedes. For those with long memorys some navy prisoners of north korea put a code message in a forced public confession that included the american legal definition of rape.

  • Pingback: Unwatchable BloggingHeadsTV Episode in Which I’m Mentioned : The Other McCain

Performance Optimization WordPress Plugins by W3 EDGE