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Who Is Richard Kramer? Director of ‘Mental Health Professionals’ Group Admits His Own Attraction to Minors

Posted on | August 20, 2011 | 20 Comments

Controversy has erupted over a Baltimore conference this week organized by B4UAct.org, a 501(c)3 non-profit organization described by the Daily Caller as “a group of pro-pedophile mental health professionals and sympathetic activists.” The Aug. 17 conference was aimed at de-stigmatizing pedophila and especially at removing pedophilia from the list of mental disorders in the American Psychiatric Association’s diagnostic manual.

There might have been even more controversy about the conference if it had been known that the operations director of B4UAct.org, Richard Kramer, is apparently not a “mental health professional,” but is in fact a self-confessed pedophile — or to employ his organization’s preferred terminology, a ”minor-attracted person.”

In a 2009 letter in the “Uncommon Sense” online newsletter, published by the pedophile-oriented site Newgon.com, Kramer wrote that “things were much better for BLs and GLs 35 years ago” — using abbreviations for “Boy Lover” and “Girl Lover,” terms popularized by online pedophile forums. In his “Uncommon Sense” letter, Kramer repeatedly used the first-person pronouns “we” and “our” in speaking of such people:

In the 1970s, professionals, politicans, and the media did not unanimously condemn BLs as animalistic “predators,” or lie to the public that we were supremely devious, violent, uncontrollable, unloving and unloveable, or that everything we did was for the purpose of satisfying our twisted lusts, or that any contact we had with children or teenagers destroyed their souls. We were not subject to ideological “cognitive restructuring” treatment (i.e., brainwashing), lifetime civil commitment (i.e., concentration camps), or possible execution. Thirty-five years ago BLs actually had large, real-life meetings and produced print publications. We even had some allies in the gay community and in radical churches. Now we are not even seen as human, and we have no allies to speak of.
The fundamental issue we need to address is the defense of our humanity. We need to confront the stigmatization, demonization, and stereotyping that exists due simply to our attraction to children or adolescents, regardless of our behavior. To do this, we need to be honest about our sexuality.
[Emphasis added.]

Kramer made the closing presentation at the Baltimore conference, according to a program of the event, speaking on the topic, “The DSM and the Stigmatization of People who Are Attracted to Minors.” The online program links Kramer to the Web site MHAMIC.org, the “Male Homosexual Attraction to Minors Information Center,” which he evidently established in 2003. A contact page at the MHAMIC site lists Kramer as a Ph.D., but does not state his area of expertise or his academic affiliation. In none of his online writing for B4UACT or MHAMIC does Kramer claim to be a mental health professional.

Despite this, none of the journalists covering the Baltimore conference — including Tracy Clark-Flory of Salon.com – mentioned Kramer’s distinctly personal interest in the subject under discussion. Readers may have mistakenly believed he was among the disinterested “mental health professionals” whose involvement in the conference was of a professional or scientific nature.

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  • Anonymous

    Hang em and hang em high.

  • MrPaulRevere

    Well what are we to make of this? A once great society is slowly committing suicide and people who in another time would have been stoned to death are leading us over the cliff. Hedonism and Nihilism are the handmaidens of secularism.

  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

    I can’t see any politician, even the most liberal Democrat imaginable, taking up this “cause”. It would be political suicide. What a group like this might try to do, however, is make alliances among mental health professionals and groups to try to encourage them to remove the stigma from the practice of pedophilia. Then they’ll try to go through the court system to have laws overturned.

    And this is just one example of why I say its of the utmost importance to elect a conservative President who will appoint conservative judges who read the constitution the way it is written, one who understands that the only legitimate way to change the constitution, should that need ever arise, is through the amendment process embedded within it, and only through that process.

    It isn’t that our society is sick, because there have always been groups and individuals who are vile. The difference now is, the system has been infected and is slowly succumbing. When that happens, the only thing to do is to overthrow it hopefully though peaceful methods before it just collapses and takes everything of value with it.

  • MrPaulRevere

    “I can’t see any politician, even the most liberal Democrat imaginable, taking up this “cause”. …No liberal democrat in 1970 could have envisioned ‘gay marriage’ being a big issue either. But here we are.

  • The Wondering Jew

    They do indeed “Need to be honest about our sexuality.” And they need to get powerful aversive treatment, including, if necessary, chemical or physical castration to avoid acting on that sexuality. The first step in that treatment  involves acknowledging that there is no such thing as a mutual sexual relationship between an adult and a child.

     They need to understand that their sexual orientation is sick, and take whatever measures are necessary to control their mental illness before it takes a criminal turn. In theory, I have sympathy for anyone unfortunate enough to be born with this sort of attraction, but to win that sympathy they have got to stop justifying their criminal urges and begin seeking to overcome it, through medicine, faith, or some combination of the two.

  • Anonymous

    “B4UAct” should be the name of a Prince album, not a professional organization of any kind.

    Have they cranked out the “born that way” agitprop yet?

  • t-dahlgren

    Politicians are not the one’s being courted here.  As noted, it is a faux movement targeting the already quite leftist APA, to alter the DSM.   Which is an attempt to use the mask of ‘science’ in order to de-legitimize commonly held morality.

    Neither is the Constitution at issue here, that is just mindless boilerplate.  Like it or not the age of consent is an issue for lesser courts and public opinion, just like gay marriage.

    A society that openly tolerates such vileness is, indeed quite sick.

  • http://twitter.com/YetAnotherITGuy YetAnotherITGuy

    So, here we are — the ultimate end-game objective of 30-something years of social, sexual progressive engineering emerges from the shadows and presents itself fully:
     
    “We Want Your Children”.

  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

    I don’t believe they are “unfortunate enough to be born with this sort of attraction” anymore than homosexuals are born with the urge to have sex with members of their own gender. Being “born that way” is a way to legitimize the condition, in both cases.

  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

    I don’t know where you get the constitution is not an issue. It clearly is not their attention to just stop with the APA. They want to use the APA to gain legitimacy from a medical and scientific vantage point, but the end goal is to gain acceptance from society and the law, which the APA could never grant them on its own merits. The only other recourse would be through the courts, by declaring any allegedly “discriminatory” laws against them unconstitutional.

  • http://twitter.com/DaTechGuyblog Peter Ingemi

    If Blogs existed in 1970 that comment above could have been made regarding homosexuality.

    Remember the ICK factor

  • http://thatmrgguy.wordpress.com/ Mike

    These people have no fucking idea how much shit like this screws up a kid’s life after being molested. Richard Kramer and anyone else who holds his view needs to be strung up by their balls and have sharp pointy objects stuck up their asses until they pray for mercy and repent.

  • Anonymous

    One good thing from this “public announcement”:  that sicko and his ilk are now on the radar of law enforcement.  I bet the Center for Missing and Exploited Children are sucking up the sickos’ IP info as we speak.

  • The Wondering Jew

    I believe the biological evidence is overwhelming that most homosexuals are indeed “born that way”, with studies showing that everything from ring/index finger ratio to facial structure, to voiceprint etc. homosexuals can be generally identified and distinguished from heterosexuals.  That doesn’t mean that you have to accept homosexuality if you don’t want to– you can still think that, like pedophilia, it is an abomination, but biological reality should be the starting point for the discussion.  Even the vast majority of practicioners engaged in “reparative therapy” of homosexuals like Marcus Bachmann no longer try to change orientation as they realize this is futile– they simply try to get homosexuals to lead celibate lives.

    As far as I know there is less research on pedophiles, but I would be very surprised to find out that their universally-despised attractions are anything but inborn.  That doesn’t mean that pedophiles should be excused, or that their actions should be considered anything less than a sickness that leads them toward criminal behavior for which they should be severely punished– but it does to me, imply the need for some sympathy for someone who acknowledges that their attractions are wrong but inescapable for them and comes forward (rather than abusing a child) for aversive therapy– if necessary including physical and chemical castration, a solution that has proven extremely effective at ending these attractions and the criminal behavior that results from them.  Folks like these though, who attempt to mainstream their pedophilic attraction are both sick and evil and should be fought ferociously with every legal and societal means as our disposal.

  • Anonymous

    Cannot cure pedophilia as with most sex addictions.  Incarceration is the only solution.

  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

    If homosexuals have voice prints, its because they talk like little pussies. Or they try to avoid doing so. As for this nonsense about ring/index finger ratio and facial structure, you know what they say about men with big feet, right? Look, I don’t doubt that men with certain physical characteristics-or, er, lack thereof-might be more inclined to become gay over time. But frankly, if I honestly thought gays were really “born that way” I’d leave them the hell alone and adopt a live and let live attitude. I still wouldn’t support gay marriage, but I sure as hell wouldn’t waste any time trying to change their lifestyle, or urge them to be celibate. In fact, I’d figure they have just as much right to engage in a mutually consensual adult sexual relationship with the partner of their choice as I do.

    And frankly, I still feel that way. If they insist that’s what they want, fine. But I don’t believe its natural, or that they were born that way so I feel like I have every right to point out that they are living under a delusion, and they need help.

    Otherwise, I just wouldn’t bother trying to change them at all. 

  • Joe

    Pedophile Democrats!

  • http://thecampofthesaints.org Bob Belvedere

    Lawrence v. Texas sits there waiting to be used by all of the most vile groups.
    http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/02-102.ZD.html

  • http://thecampofthesaints.org Bob Belvedere

    I’d be willing to put on my Vlad The Impaler costume and invite the sick freaks to a special dinner.

  • Digsa6

    Twin studies dispute this regarding being genetic. The pedophiles are not rehabilitative 85-95%recidivism rate. Would you want your son to be their relapse victim? Use some common sense!I read a study years ago from gay men interviewed from New York hospitals , I believe and 40% admitted to feelings of pedophilia!