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Insert Obscene Epithets Here

Posted on | September 28, 2011 | 34 Comments

G–d— bastards in Florida threaten to f–k up everything:

Florida will likely hold Jan. primary,
threatening presidential calendar

Never mind how this dumbass stunt could affect the Republican primary outcome. If those bats–t crazy motherf–kers do this, I’ll be spending Christmas in Iowa.

Not since the five-week recount in 2000 will political reporters have had so much reason to hate those c–ksucking Florida sons of bitches.


34 Responses to “Insert Obscene Epithets Here”

  1. Anonymous
    September 28th, 2011 @ 4:51 pm

    Not to defend Florida, but stunts like this are a natural and expected result of the stupid primary system. Why should the same states always go first? Why do some citizens get basically no say in the presidential election? What I mean by that is if the nominee is almost always chosen before your state weighs in you are given no choice. Look at 2008. That year the Republicans had settled (and I do mean settled) on McCain before Ohio’s primary. So, my vote meant nothing in the primary. In the general I had the choice between an youthful, very inexperienced and very liberal candidate I couldn’t stand or an very ancient, slightly experienced and somewhat liberal candidate I didn’t much like. Wow, what a choice!

  2. steve benton
    September 28th, 2011 @ 5:00 pm

    I admit my ignorance. What is so earth shattering about changing the primary dates?

  3. Anonymous
    September 28th, 2011 @ 5:05 pm

    This (and Michigan) is the same stupid garbage that gave us Obama as the Dem candidate and thus President.

  4. JD777
    September 28th, 2011 @ 5:07 pm

    Hey, hey, hey…if they keep it up you could spend Thanksgiving in Iowa. In fact the best time for the NH primary would be fall foliage time.

  5. Anonymous
    September 28th, 2011 @ 5:20 pm

    Shut your effing mouth. Our primary is BIG MONEY to us here in NH, and you ain’t gonna cost us a couple months of spending.

    Stacy, I’m right with you there on those pig-fracking Floridans…


  6. Brett
    September 28th, 2011 @ 5:37 pm

    While we’re discussing primaries, it’s fascinating that the taxpayers finance the nomination process of these two private parties.

    I presume we have primaries at all as a gesture toward democratic selection.  Does this system succeed in that regard?

  7. Joe
    September 28th, 2011 @ 5:42 pm

    Wasn’t this tried before? 

    Although with Cain winning the straw poll there, maybe this is not such a bad idea?

    Okay,  I know it is just nonsense, but I am glad to see you are thrilled about it. 

  8. Joe
    September 28th, 2011 @ 5:46 pm

    I mean who wouldn’t prefer Iowa over Florida for Christmas? 

    That was a joke. 

  9. Leslie Eastman
    September 28th, 2011 @ 5:54 pm

    DARK SHADOWS 2012: Not just a movie……  Looks like the GOP primary season is in chaos.

  10. Adjoran
    September 28th, 2011 @ 6:34 pm

    They should have dealt with this problem before by reforming the system:  leave Iowa, NH, SC, and NV as the first four, smaller states with affordable media in four different regions; then everyone else rotates every cycle, back to front so whoever is first after the first four one cycle is last the next.  Get everyone to agree on it.

    The reason it must stop is that at least Iowa and NH are NEVER going to allow their early status to be jumped – NH has a state law requiring it.  So we could end up with the first primaries right after the Inauguration.

    The old “solution” hasn’t worked – depriving credentials to the delegates from states that violate the rules.  But what happens is that the nominee sees no reason to anger a given state, especially a swing state like Florida, so orders them seated anyway, so there is no effective penalty.

  11. Bob Belvedere
    September 28th, 2011 @ 6:36 pm

    I sympathize.  And I agree that this is a bit of madness.

    However, there is a much bigger issue that will affect all of us who are fighting to restore our freedoms and liberties: the fact that non-Republicans will be allowed to vote in some GOP primaries.

  12. Anonymous
    September 28th, 2011 @ 7:12 pm

    Not me.

  13. Anonymous
    September 28th, 2011 @ 7:19 pm

    Maybe too much. This is supposed to be a republic, not a G-D- mobocracy.

  14. Edward Royce
    September 28th, 2011 @ 7:49 pm

    The way to do the primaries is very simple and straightforward:

    States can schedule their primary by ascending order of population size.

    Why?  Because if the smaller states go last, they will be completely irrelevant and overshadowed by the larger states. 

  15. Anonymous
    September 28th, 2011 @ 8:05 pm

    You could make the case that this hurts Cain in Iowa, New Hampshire and SC.

  16. Adjoran
    September 28th, 2011 @ 8:09 pm

    The logic behind “open” primaries in states with party registration is that it invites the independents and non-aligned voters into the party.  Not sure that makes a lot of sense, because if they influence the process but abandon the eventual nominee, the GOP may even lose on the deal.

    But many states, mostly in the South, don’t register by party at all.  Arguably, that is the most American approach – what business is it of the government’s what party you follow, and why should you have to align (or not) with any party to register to vote?

    Southern parties used to make up for this by requiring loyalty oaths:  you had to swear you would only support the nominee before being allowed to vote in their primary.  Of course they were unenforceable, and lost most of their meaning as our society has drifted away from concepts of honor and the practice of religion, but they were pretty much outlawed some years ago anyway.

    So we are stuck with an imperfect system.  Attempts to make it perfect usually make it worse.

  17. Adjoran
    September 28th, 2011 @ 8:10 pm

    Good luck selling that to the larger states!

  18. JeffS
    September 28th, 2011 @ 9:23 pm

    Go ahead, Stacy.  Tell us how you really feel.

  19. ThePaganTemple
    September 28th, 2011 @ 9:24 pm

    And that really pisses me off. Even if its limited to independents. It’s just not good.

  20. ThePaganTemple
    September 28th, 2011 @ 9:26 pm

    I mainly wonder if this is going to affect the filing deadlines. If it does, this might inadvertently cripple any potential Palin campaign, unless she declares her candidacy like, say, today.

  21. Brian D Paasch
    September 28th, 2011 @ 11:21 pm

    I believe that is a large part of the reason we got McCain last time (although hugely thankful for Palin from that). And although there was great gnashing of teeth of it at the time, so far as I’m aware, absolutely nothing has been done about it. Which is why I generally assume we’ll be stuck with Romney this time.

  22. Brian D Paasch
    September 28th, 2011 @ 11:22 pm

    That was my first thought too. Does anyone know the process for getting on the ballot in FL? It takes a pretty big, widespread effort here in Indiana.

  23. Charles
    September 29th, 2011 @ 12:29 am

    If your idea of Christmas is sipping a pina colada on the beach, by all means go to Florida. If your idea is going to a candlight Christmas Eve service on a snowy night after cutting your own Christmas tree, choose Iowa.

  24. Charles
    September 29th, 2011 @ 12:33 am

    By “southern parties” you principally mean the Democratic Party, right? On my honor, I will vote for the Democrat, didn’t those old southerners have any pride?

  25. Gustav5
    September 29th, 2011 @ 12:36 am

    Geesh The GOP s terrorist orginization?

    Your joking right?

  26. Gustav5
    September 29th, 2011 @ 12:37 am

    as a *

  27. Charles
    September 29th, 2011 @ 12:51 am

    I think Florida just wants to be able to go Feb. 21 without losing any of its delegates. If Florida really wanted to play hardball, they’d pass a law forbidding any major party who refuses to seat all their delegates from appearing on the November ballot.

  28. Anonymous
    September 29th, 2011 @ 4:38 am

    Primaries at the end of January are insane.

    But then so is the New Hampshire primary, on any date, under the current rules. In a highly contested race, the primary determines the most popular GOP candidate incapable of beating the Democrats. Winning the primary is like winning a steerage ticket aboard the RMS Titanic. Maybe the only way to fix this and still have open primaries is for independent-heavy primaries to generate fewer delegates.

  29. Larry
    September 30th, 2011 @ 2:07 am

    My idea is for the DNC & RNC to hold all primaries on he same day.

  30. Anonymous
    September 30th, 2011 @ 4:02 am

    April 15.

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