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My Take On The Birth Control And Prop. 8 Decisions

Posted on | February 8, 2012 | 20 Comments

by Smitty

I think that the war on Catholics and the war on marriage arrive at a good time. There seems to be a great deal of bellyaching about GOP candidates “they all suck–get over it” and a general lack of vigor amongst conservatives.

  • We’re burned out on fluffy debates and negative ads.
  • The House GOP don’t seem to have any real strategy, legislatively, on Solyndra, on Fast & Furious.
  • #OccupyResoluteDesk, buoyed by quantitative easing on the stock market and statistical easing on the job numbers, is doing orders of magnitude better than he has any right to expect.

And so the Administration picks a fight with CatholicsChristians, and the 9th circuit dogs bite a man in a gimp suit in a ritual that must make sense in their San Francisco digs. Also, CPAC is hours away, and the ObamaCare oral arguments are next month.

That, fellow conservatives, adds up to what should be some intense motivation. Various Ruling Class Overlords and their sad little tools would like to pronounce the Tea Parties dead. And so they bring this noise.

LET US CALL THEIR BLUFF,
YE PATRIOTS

More at The Camp of the Saints.

And, mostly unrelated, I can’t not include this, via Sissy Willis:

See, now, *that* is very well played.

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  • http://4simpsons.wordpress.com/ Neil

    Yes.  Obama’s actions are over the top, even for him, but may backfire.  The trampling of religious freedoms will be a great topic in debates and on the campaign trail.  

  • Pathfinder’s wife

    Yeah, this is good timing IF: somebody takes this (sincerely) and runs with it (doesn’t appeal to populism, get all sanctimonious and preachy, doesn’t…you get the idea) AND: if certain big time conservative blogs can restrain themselves from anti-Catholic, anti-Christian bigotry (which one of them apparently couldn’t yesterday….good job, way to bring everybody together; oh, and excellent source of scare quotes for the Dems there too).

    The conservatives/GOP  should consider it a gift and use it wisely…here’s hoping that they do.

  • http://thecampofthesaints.org Bob Belvedere

    While I’m very happy that the Bolshes have handed us these two issues on a silver platter, I fear (1) that those low-cunning bastards have something up their sleeves and (2) the GOP will strike out on these softballs.

    Speaking of red sleeves: how about a Fall attack on Iranian nuclear facilities?

    PS: Thanks, Admiral, for the linky love.

  • Pathfinder’s wife

    I think the Bolshies have been too clever for themselves by far.  They have jumped too soon and been way too obvious with; this could wind up costing them big time.
    IF some of the right wing can refrain from their Catholic hate (which they apparently cannot).  This is seemingly ok: because I’ve seen much more stink over far less if “Catholic” was replaced by “Jew”, “Black”, “gay”; it appears as though certain ethnic/religoius groups are still ok to be bigoted with within the conservative/Republican right wing — the safe targets for any lingering, pentup racism and bigotry as it were.If they cannot then the Bolshies win — they win because each group would sell out another in order to see them “punished” or to see them fall (thinking they’ll be top spot now), and of course everybody in each little group will trust the others less (because they know what will happen).  Victory through balkanization.

  • http://www.thepiratescove.us/ William_Teach

    One thing that we have to remember is that, no matter who it is, we must get Obama out. At stake is not only doing away with ObamaCare, but the potential for several Supreme Court nominees. Do we want Obama picking court members who will be around for decades?

  • Anonymous

     Especially since those judges will just keep pushing what Mickey Kaus called the “Reinhardt Ratchet” , “a Brezhnev doctrine of liberal judicial activism”.

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  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

     I don’t see that, not from the Republicans. I see it from Democrats bitching about the Catholic stance on birth control, euthanasia, gay marriage, and abortion, but if anything Republicans are far TOO tolerant when it comes to the political inclinations of a group that on balance is actually very left wing, which is why they actually tend to vote Democrat in most elections.

    In fact, I’m going to wager that most of the Catholics bitching about this ruling now for the most part were all on board with ObamaCare. I know for a fucking fact a lot of them were, so its hard for me to feel much sympathy for them now. A lot of these people were the ones that were all for it, so long as Obama promised he’d leave abortion out of it. Well, my answer to them is a great big hearty fuck you! The way I see it, they’re crying not because Obama has fucked them in the ass, they’re crying because he didn’t use the K-Y Jelly like he promised.

  • Albert Schwartz

    There are a number of Catholic justices on the Supreme Court. If they decide ObamaCare is unconstitutional, the regulation is moot. Might that influence the decision?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/EU5DQWQTTHTPO4A4ZYSL3AAV2U Adjoran

    You can bet Obama is going to walk the conscience decision back, and soon, even though the HHS rule was “final.”  Axelrod is already talking about it, which pretty much means it is a done deal.  They are just trying to figure out how to make Obama seem the hero in it.

    But until ObamaCare is repealed AND Obama is removed from office, there is no guarantee the rule won’t swiftly return once he no longer has to face voters again.  ABO is the only sane approach.

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    Over the last 25 years,  the 9th Circuit has been the most overturned Circuit by SCOTUS.  They have had more rulings reversed than the other ten Circuits COMBINED.  This decision will add to that, presumably, barring a vacancy on the Court.

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    As to the “legislative approach” to Solyndra and F&F/Gunwalker, I don’t see how Issa and the House can do much more than they are. 

    One thing is now obvious:  Holder knew about F&F, but isn’t worried about being the scapegoat.  The ONLY explanation is that there is someone up the food chain from him who authorized it and needs his continued silence for protection, else he would have been thrown under the bus already.

    Obama was willing to ditch his own grandmother, his close buddy isn’t allowed in the White House anymore, he has no reason to cover Holder except that Holder is covering him.

    But the drip, drip, drip of information being extracted through successive Friday night doc dumps is turning into a flood.  The timing looks good to me.

  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

    I would be all for a constitutional amendment that would ban gay marriage in all states, and I think it would pass. That would be an effort worth the fight. Gay marriage isn’t about marriage rights anyway, its about a bunch of five alarm faggots wanting to adopt kids, and force acceptance of the fag lifestyle throughout society, and in our school system. 

  • Pathfinder’s wife

    You need to get out more then.  So far I’ve seen Catholics as all natural born socialists, Catholics like Muslims, and other disparaging remarks about traitorous, unChristian (!) mackrel snappers….and generally that they should be told to…heh, “eff off”.
    This sort of idiocy is not how one makes friends and influences people.Divide and conquer is the name of the Dem game; one takes allies as one finds them (and Catholics are not “born socialists” nor a monolithic voting bloc)…popping off with knee jerk, bigoted comments only plays into the game the Dems are pulling.  This is corner stoop politics at its most basic, and the conservatives/Republicans are falling for it — hook, line, sinker.

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  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

    You know what’s not the way to win friends and influence people? That would be by throwing me and everybody else under the bus by agreeing to support something like ObamaCare, and then expecting me to give a good flying fuck when the leftists you’ve crawled into bed with fuck you over on some non-issue like abortion that you care about. 

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  • Pathfinder’s wife

    Uh, I never ever supported Obamacare.
    And I’m ostensibly pro-choice (but am very willing to note that the pro-lifers do have some very valid objections to abortion — chiefly that it is taking a human life…and there are some very disturbing ties to the eugenics movement).  That’s not a non-issue, and this is hardly throwing you personally under the bus.
    Heck, I’m not even nominally Catholic anymore, but I can see the folly of telling people to “eff off” and calling them names when for at least this one time they may be on your side.
    Sometimes you have to take allies where you can get them; who knows, if the cards are played right they might even stay your allies, so why blow it?

  • http://thepagantemple.blogspot.com/ ThePaganTemple

     Pathfinder’s wife-go back and read everything I said. I’m talking about the Catholics who supported Obama, and Obamacare, which happens to be most of them, maybe even most of the church leadership.

    Yeah, I get the whole let’s be friends shit, but how long are they really going to be our friends? Probably not too damn long. I’m not in the mood to align with somebody I know is going to throw me right back under the bus as soon as the next leftist scheme comes down the pike. Fuck over me once, shame on you. Fuck over me twice, I have no one to blame but myself.

    And I’m supposed to put myself in the position of further empowering these jack-offs over, what, abortion? Nope. Not in this lifetime. Frankly I don’t give enough of a flying fuck about Progressives and their brood to interfere with them aborting their numbers down to manageable levels. If anything I want them to do more, not less of it.

  • http://thecampofthesaints.org Bob Belvedere

     Regarding how the GOP is handling F&F: The problem is that Issa and Grassley are still playing by the old rules.  The MSM has a vested interest in not letting the truth of F&F get out, so, with a very few exceptions, they are not playing up the story [in fact, they’re playing a very slick game by not ignoring it (which would leave them open to charges of bias) but covering it and spinning the scandal as minor].  Those heading the investigation need to utilize the New Media.  Just going on Fox is not enough anymore.