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#FreeKate Lies Rejected by Daily Kos Staffer, and Other New Developments

Posted on | May 25, 2013 | 70 Comments

Generally speaking, people who care about facts are not liberals, so I was amazed when Donald Douglas pointed this out to me.

McCarter’s original story on Monday, May 20, began with a touching lament about Kaitlyn Hunt’s “young life” being “turned upside down and her future jeopardized simply because . . . she fell in love with a younger girl who has vindictive bigots for parents.”

Right: “She fell in love,” and fingered a 14-year-old in a toilet stall at school. Isn’t it so delightfully romantic?

If you’ve followed the story at all — and my Thursday article at The American Spectator has been widely cited — you know that this “vindictive bigots” angle is crucial to the narrative that the #FreeKate mob has been pushing. And if you saw Jana Eschbach’s WPEC-TV interview with Jim and Laurie Smith, parents of the 14-year-old girl, you know what an evil and dishonest smear that is.

Where did this smear come from? Directly from Kaitlyn’s mother, Kelley Hunt-Smith, who wrote May 17 on Facebook:

“[The younger girl’s parents] are bigoted, religious zeolites [sic] that see being gay as a sin and wrong, and they blame my daughter. . . .
“They are trying to send an innocent young girl to prison because they are full of hate and bigotry. These girls are teenagers in high school, who had ONE mutual consenting sexual experience.”

Lies, lies, lies.

Is it possible, I will dare to ask, that Kelley Hunt-Smith’s dishonesty is somehow related to her daughter’s problems? There seems to be some kind of dysfunctional family situation here. If Kaitlyn’s mom is a pathological liar, isn’t mental illness often hereditary?

The “Free Kate” Facebook community also seems to have been the source for other falsehoods, especially the lie that the sexual activities between Kaitlyn and the younger girl occurred when they were 17 and 15, rather than 18 and 14. Joan McCarter bought that false narrative hook, line and sinker:

[A]ccording to Hunt’s parents, Hunt was 17 when the relationship began, but the other girl’s parents waited until after she turned 18 to go to police.

Anyone can read the arrest affidavit in the case and see that Kaitlyn’s date of birth is Aug. 14, 1994, meaning she turned 18 before she began her senior year at high school year and before she met the younger girl, who was a 14-year-old freshman throughout the period when the two were sexually involved together. Kaitlyn was arrested Feb. 16, and the freshman girl didn’t turn 15 until April.

Joan McCarter of Daily Kos — who had originally posted a petition supporting Kaitlyn Hunt — removed that petition and corrected the story as soon as she learned the truth:

Thu May 23, 2013 at 10:29 AM PT: The public scrutiny of this case has brought to light problems with the initial reporting, and with the original story coming from the Hunt family. Previously, Hunt’s parents said that the younger girl was 15, and Hunt 17 when the relationship began. The release of the arrest warrant made clear, as subsequent news stories report, that the younger girl was 14 and Hunt was indeed 18 when the relationship began.
These corrections, and the initial dishonesty of Hunt’s parents, make this story much more problematic, and our original petition moot.

Wow! If only we could explain to McCarter that Keynesian economics doesn’t work and ObamaCare will bankrupt the county . . .

OK, maybe that would be too much worldview trauma, too soon. But you might be surprised how often a situation like this, where a liberal discovers she’s been misled by her fellow liberals, leads to the kind of second thoughts that slowly unravel a belief system. Remember, I was a lifelong Democrat and voted for Bill Clinton in ’92, only to learn too late what a shameless liar he was (and still is).

Anyway, now that the facts about Kaitlyn’s Jailbait Dildo Deviance are beginning to break through the wall of #FreeKate lies — and Kaitlyn has, probably unwisely, rejected the prosecution’s plea bargain offer — Momma Weirdo is having conniptions:

Liars hate the truth. Therefore tell the truth boldly, because there are few honors more rewarding than to be hated by liars.

UPDATE: Ann Althouse blogged about the story and some of the most interesting bits are her remarks in the comments:

Based on the video [i.e., the WPEC-TV interview with Jim and Laurie Smith, parents of the younger girl], it seems that kids at school are putting a lot of pressure on their daughter to reject her parents.
Now, the parents did report her girlfriend in to the police. They did this, they say, as a last resort after their daughter had already run away (without telling them). That was not a good strategy for getting their daughter back, as it’s alienated her further, so that she may feel that her entire social life depends on rejecting her parents.
So, do you think that was very savvy of the parents?
I don’t think so, but the question is what can they do once the other girl has shifted the rhetoric?
The younger girl’s parents made one drastic decision: to report behavior that is, under the law, a felony.
The accused girl got control of the narrative, with much support, making it about homophobia.
There’s really no way back for the younger girl’s parents. They can present their point of view and make it somewhat better, but they must regret going to the police.

What happened, Professor Althouse, was that Kaitlyn Hunt’s parents lied. And why should lying — “shift[ing] the rhetoric” to gain “control of the narrative,” as you say — be rewarded? It seems important to me that liars should never prevail in a situation like this, or else the rule of law will be subverted by dishonesty.

Then again, that seemed important to me when Bill Clinton lied about having sex with Monica Lewinsky, too.

As to the decision of the younger girl’s parents to report Kaitlyn Hunt to the police, both the arrest affidavit and the WPEC-TV interview suggest that this was the only remedy they had left, if their purpose was to protect their daughter against Hunt’s selfish predation.

From studying this story, a picture of Kaitlyn Hunt emerges that is far from flattering: She is reckless and arrogant, and feels entitled to do whatever she wants, without any criticism, any opposition or any consequences — the Veruca Salt Syndrome, as it were. Had she been willing to take “no” for an answer, had she been amenable to reason, had she thought twice of the potential consequences of continuing to pursue this 14-year-old even after repeated warnings from the parents, it never would have come to this.

Kaitlyn Hunt at all times had agency over her fate, and by her selfish impetuosity she has done dreadful damage to everyone involved here. To criticize the “drastic” action of the younger girl’s parents, or to suggest they “must regret” having gone to the police is to overlook their duty as citizens: Kaitlyn Hunt is a menace to the safety of the community. How many others has she victimized, exploited or corrupted? All this yammering about what a popular and successful student she was — is it true? Is it relevant?

She seems to be a dishonest, selfish, impudent whelp, and however “popular” she may have been, her attempt to evade responsibility by playing the victim — and enlisting a mob to pressure the prosecutor on her behalf — looks an awful lot like pathological narcissism.

The more I examine the arguments made in support of Kaitlyn Hunt, the more I’m of the opinion that she should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, if only to provide an example to any other young fool who might be tempted to emulate her.

Think of it this way: #FreeKate = “Occupy 14-Year-Old Vagina!”

Damn her, and damn her lying supporters, too.

 


Comments

70 Responses to “#FreeKate Lies Rejected by Daily Kos Staffer, and Other New Developments”

  1. Becca Lower
    May 25th, 2013 @ 3:07 am

    I couldn’t read the article, because I’m not a subscriber to the newspaper, but Kaitlyn was a witness to a similar assault at the “alternative” school she was sent to after suspension. The mother apparently whined on the Facebook group about that other case being dismissed (but I couldn’t find her post/comment).

  2. robertstacymccain
    May 25th, 2013 @ 3:09 am

    I wouldn’t believe a word either Kaitlyn or her mother say. They have both lied about so much already, they have zero credibility.

  3. Becca Lower
    May 25th, 2013 @ 3:12 am

    Agreed. It seems like quite a coincidence.

  4. Dai Alanye
    May 25th, 2013 @ 3:50 am

    Falling in love? Let us differentiate between love and lust. This “romance” seems little more than a conquest on the older girl’s part, since true love takes the welfare of the other party into consideration.

  5. robertstacymccain
    May 25th, 2013 @ 5:01 am

    Exactly. She isn’t being prosecuted for her orientation or her desires. She isn’t being prosecuted for her sentiments or emotions.

    She’s being prosecuted for her actions, which were against the law.

  6. Pablo
    May 25th, 2013 @ 5:26 am

    I’m sure Brett Kimberlin thought himself in love with an underage girl. You don’t put a hit out over any old underage piece of ass.

  7. Good Stuff
    May 25th, 2013 @ 7:27 am

    puberty and poor parenting

  8. keyboard jockey
    May 25th, 2013 @ 8:37 am

    I suspect this isn’t the first time this family has encountered law enforcement. Now that Kaitlyn is no longer a minor she doesn’t enjoy the shield of the law not disseminating her name publicly.

    The 14 year old’s parents had every reason to believe that their child could go to school, and not be sexually abused so the school’s also open for legal liability.

    It’s entirely possible the Daily Kos bought into a lower white class melodrama, because Kaitlyn’s mother humped the ghey angle. Daily Kos staffers aren’t familiar with the rule, don’t believe everything you read on the internet?

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  10. CrustyB
    May 25th, 2013 @ 8:52 am

    “An adult molested a younger girl!”
    “They were lesbians.”
    “Oh? Well, that’s OK then. Wouldn’t want to be a hateful bigot, after all.”

  11. keyboard jockey
    May 25th, 2013 @ 9:01 am

    Lesbian love, that ruse was introduced by her mother on her Facebook wall.

    If you look at the facts presented, a hyper sexualized 18 year old, sexually assaults a 14 year old in a public toilet. Where did Kaitlyn learn this behavior?

    I won’t be surprised if the defense attorney’s introduces a plea for leniency, because she was the victim of childhood sexual molestation herself. (speculation) but nine times out of ten the perpetrator was abused themselves. That will turn everyone’s attention back to Kaitlyn’s mother and her parenting. No doubt her mother would rather talk about lesbian issues. That’s called deflection.

  12. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    May 25th, 2013 @ 9:16 am

    Love does not include taking advantage of a 14 year old. Real love would wait. This was about an 18 year old satisfying her needs.

  13. Michael Ryan
    May 25th, 2013 @ 9:23 am

    Is Kate successful and popular? Well, yeah. So were the high school football players in Ohio.

  14. Colorado Alex
    May 25th, 2013 @ 10:32 am

    “Is Kate successful and popular?”
    Sociopaths often are.

  15. RantMan
    May 25th, 2013 @ 10:51 am

    Amen.

  16. Garym
    May 25th, 2013 @ 10:58 am

    Exactly.

  17. Jaynie59
    May 25th, 2013 @ 11:09 am

    I’ll never understand why conservatives link to or care about anything Ann Althouse says. Glenn Reynolds is a libertarian so his admiration for her makes sense. Plus she’s a law professor like him so they have that in common. But Althouse is about as far left as you can get without being a screaming nutcase. Her posts during the Wisconsin occupation of the state house were pretty typical of the libertarian mindset. Sure, she sometimes posted videos and blog posts about how bad it was but she was always way too sympathetic to their cause.
    But what else is new? Most of the top conservatives blogs are full of spineless people who refuse to judge the other side harshly. The change in the conservative blogosphere since the 2004 election is amazing. It’s done a complete 180.

  18. WarEagle82
    May 25th, 2013 @ 11:11 am

    What if Ms Hunt-Smith is the same person who produced President Obama’s birth certificate? Can we be sure of anything? I’m just saying…

    So if you commit a felony, and LIE about it, to shamelessly protect yourself or your kid, it somehow becomes okay?

    This is more of that “rape-rape” nonsense and “it-was-only-sex” that we hear when LEFTISTS rape someone.

    The sexual predator is legally an adult. The child is legally a child. The child cannot legally consent and engage in a “consensual sexual relationship” with an adult. That nasty little thing called “the law” just seems to forever get in the way of these LEFTIST MORONS (but I repeat myself) from doing what they want to do, when they want to do it.

  19. Freddie Sykes
    May 25th, 2013 @ 11:35 am

    Two questions I would want answered:

    1. Has an 18 year old male ever been charged with sexually assaulting a willing 14 year old female?

    2. It seems as if many people want to change the law wrt the age of sexual consent. What changes are they suggesting making or would they like to abolish such laws completely?

  20. Wrathful_Brunette
    May 25th, 2013 @ 11:43 am

    1. Yes

    2. Yes

    On this topic, I’d like to point out that any child can be made “willing”, which is why there are statutory rape laws.

    The emotionally and psychologically immature are easily manipulated.

  21. Neo
    May 25th, 2013 @ 11:45 am

    All those priest loved their victims as well, but they were misunderstood … or whatever.

  22. Freddie Sykes
    May 25th, 2013 @ 11:53 am

    If the answer to the first question is, as we suspect, yes, then the issue of sexual preference becomes moot.

    If the answer to the second question is also yes then it behooves us to ask the opponents with what they would replace the law they oppose. To be against something without presenting an alternative is just sloppy thinking. Hopefully, they will be able to state their new law in less than 1,000 pages.

  23. Wrathful_Brunette
    May 25th, 2013 @ 11:56 am

    What these lawless libertines want is a free pass…..for themselves.

  24. alwaysfiredup
    May 25th, 2013 @ 12:05 pm

    Althouse voted for Obama in 2008 but saw the light and voted Romney in 2012. Her perspective is useful if you want to see what arguments actually work on the moderate Left and what don’t. I’m not saying we should do whatever she wants, that’s silly. But the perspective is useful to understand.

  25. Garym
    May 25th, 2013 @ 12:05 pm

    Jazz has an interesting take on this over at Hot Air:
    http://hotair.com/archives/2013/05/25/kaitlyn-hunt-and-the-romeo-and-juliet-problem/

  26. alwaysfiredup
    May 25th, 2013 @ 12:06 pm

    And btw, it was Benghazi that finally lost her for Obama. There’s definitely a there there.

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  28. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    May 25th, 2013 @ 12:36 pm

    We both have fabulous hair. Mine is better.

  29. ThomasD
    May 25th, 2013 @ 1:07 pm

    So this is simply another example that with the left, it is not actions, but motivations trumping all else.

    The tyranny of “good” intentions.

  30. ThomasD
    May 25th, 2013 @ 1:10 pm

    Plus, horns!

  31. ThomasD
    May 25th, 2013 @ 1:11 pm

    But not those Bible humping yokels, who might ‘force’ some young impressionable child into marriage.

  32. ThomasD
    May 25th, 2013 @ 1:18 pm

    Jazz seems to miss the idea, as implied by the Florida law, that there is a world of difference in the capacity for consent when comparing a 14 year old and a 16 year old.

  33. Richard McEnror
    May 25th, 2013 @ 1:29 pm

    I have a better plan. I’m spending the day at @OpGratitude where there will be a roomful of people reminding me there’s more to this f***ed up gaggle of. failed monkeys than a bunch of opportunistic arrogant perverts and degenerates talking a young girl into destroying her life for a political point.

  34. Jaynie59
    May 25th, 2013 @ 1:38 pm

    No it isn’t. It undermines the conservative cause because of this overriding NEED conservatives have of being “reasonable”. Of listening to all sides. Bull. The Left needs to be destroyed and right now one of conservatives biggest threats is coming from libertarians. RINO’s like Ed Morrissey and others care far too much what so-called intellectuals like Glenn Reynolds and Ann Althouse have to say while they trash, or refuse to defend, the likes of Sarah Palin. It’s sickening to see a movement commit suicide the way the conservative movement is doing now.

  35. Garym
    May 25th, 2013 @ 2:03 pm

    It looks like Florida law isn’t cut and dry when it comes to “underage romance.” Kaitlyn may not have to register as a sex offender which brings up the question is she an offender.
    I personally think Kate should hang for this. I feel she took advantage of the 14 year old with her mother’s help.

  36. Garym
    May 25th, 2013 @ 2:07 pm

    …….but is there truth in your eyes?

  37. trangbang68
    May 25th, 2013 @ 2:09 pm

    fingering a little girl in a public restroom is all about love. probably see it on a hallmark card soon.
    The mother is a lying dirtbag and an unfit parent.
    I don’t know about the “cute” part either. Kate looks like Squeaky Fromme

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  40. Bob Belvedere
    May 25th, 2013 @ 4:27 pm

    The story was too good to verify.

  41. Bob Belvedere
    May 25th, 2013 @ 4:32 pm

    I could see the scenario turning out to be true. On the other hand, I could see her actions being the result of the sexualization of our children, where they are instructed by their teachers and parents that it’s wrong to restrain one’s urges – if it feels good, do it. We live in a Society where most of the so-called adults have rejected Morality.

    I would like to thank the Left, especially Alfred Kinsey and his champions.

  42. Wrathful_Brunette
    May 25th, 2013 @ 4:33 pm

    Heaven forbid!

  43. Bob Belvedere
    May 25th, 2013 @ 4:35 pm

    How come I get the feeling that in a few years time I will be seeing an episode on Investigation Discovery’s Deadly Women where Kate is the subject?

  44. Bob Belvedere
    May 25th, 2013 @ 4:35 pm

    Indeed. Thank you for covering this so relentlessly Stacy.

  45. Torqued
    May 25th, 2013 @ 5:17 pm

    Their objective is to legalize pedophilia. That’s what is the root of all of this. Even their support of koranimals.

  46. Dai Alanye
    May 25th, 2013 @ 5:22 pm

    Call it satisfying her desires. There is no need behind homosexual acts, no need behind taking advantage of the young.

  47. Kristine ????
    May 25th, 2013 @ 6:19 pm

    I’d like to know where she got the vibrator she used on the younger girl when the younger girl ran away & stayed at Kate’s house.

    Those things aren’t exactly cheap & you have to be 21 to purchase anything at an adult store.

    Did she get it over the internet? What credit card did she use?

    Where was Kate’s mom when this sex toy slumber party happened?

    Maybe it’s a little pervy to ask this, I don’t know. But I have to wonder if Kate’s mother had any part in supplying her daughter with certain products.

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  49. Pablo
    May 25th, 2013 @ 7:39 pm

    It’s not even that. It’s membership in a protected victim class. She can’t be wrong, she’s a lesbian.

  50. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    May 25th, 2013 @ 9:29 pm

    I did not mean “needs” as the equivalent of air, water, food and shelter. Sexual desire can always be controlled and it is a lie when people claim they cannot.

    If was a selfish and completely avoidable act. Kate cared about getting off, not her “friend.”