The Gay Hate Machine

Posted on | October 27, 2014 | 161 Comments

Janna Darnelle is a mother whose ex-husband destroyed their marriage because he became homosexual. Rivka Edelman grew up as the the daughter of a lesbian couple. Edleman describes how Darnelle was viciously harassed for criticizing the gay agenda:

Janna Darnelle’s recent Public Discourse essay, “Breaking the Silence: Redefining Marriage Hurts Women Like Me—and Our Children,” reveals what is behind the heartwarming pictures of gay families from a mother’s point of view. As someone who was raised by a lesbian mother, I would like to weigh in. I will comment not only as a former child who was once all smiles in those pictures, but also as an academic, a woman, a mother, and a feminist.
Darnelle’s essay struck a nerve and went viral. It is not surprising that, within a few hours, LGBT activists had taken up arms against her. Keyboard warriors manned the ramparts. Soon, the usual thugs took up their clubs and pitchforks.
For those of you who avoid the subterranean landscape of online same-sex parenting debates, it is useful to be introduced to Scott “Rose” Rosenzweig, a virulently misogynistic LGBT activist. As soon as Darnelle’s essay was published, Rose went into action, darting from the blog Good As You to other sites in an effort to destroy her personally. . . . Darnelle’s ex-husband even weighed in. A helpful fellow, he left her personal information in the comments section of several activists’ blogs, including her full legal name. . . .
Many families headed by gay male couples are built upon exploitation of women. Practically speaking, Scott Rose and his compatriots have formed a men’s rights group that seeks to use women as breeders. These egg donors and surrogate mothers supply infants for a bustling market full of same-sex couples, for whom reproduction is naturally and biologically impossible.
In the name of equality, groups such as GLAAD (which employs Jeremy Hooper as a consultant) have pushed through gender identity laws that have legally erased women. The term “woman” now legally can refer to the way that a man chooses to identify himself. Once women have been erased legally as a group and as individuals, it is not hard to erase “mothers.” This lends support to the practice of using one woman’s eggs and another woman’s womb to supply children for gay male couples, obscuring the concept of motherhood and making it seem dispensable.

Having spent months researching radical feminism, permit me to say that this idea of “erasure” will resonate very strongly with radical feminists like Janice Raymond and Sheila Jeffreys who have spent decades criticizing both surrogate motherhood (women as babymakers for hire) and transgenderism (whereby men appropriate the female identity for their own perverse purposes). Raymond and Jeffreys (and other radical lesbians like Julie Bindel and Cathy Brennan) are certainly no friends of the traditional family. However, they also refuse to be pushed around by men, including gay men hiring rent-a-wombs to provide themselves with trophy babies and perverted heterosexual men who want to be “translesbians.”

All of which is to say that Rivka Edelman and Janna Darnelle should have support from hard-core feminists in taking on gay hatemongers like Scott Rosenzweig. Whether they’ll get that support or not remains to be seen. Rivka Edelman has been targeted now:

Since my essay was published, there have been hundreds, maybe thousands, of posts calling me a liar or trying to shame, discredit, intimidate, and threaten me. . . . People I do not know have gone directly after my family and my job. They have posted information, mis-information, accusations, and threats against me. . . .
As with other adults who have come forward to criticize their childhood with gay parents, I am framed as a bigot or a liar or in some other way “unreliable.” In this flip-flop, a children’s rights activist and feminist is called “anti-gay” and a “bigot.”
Jeremy Hooper, Mr. Rose, and a gang of the allies who congregate and exchange information on Hooper’s blog, “Good As You,” are concerned about an amicus curiae brief I wrote in the Texas case regarding same-sex marriage (Fifth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals). Along with three other adults who were raised by same-sex couples, I came forward to push back against the assertion that children have no disadvantages when raised by same-sex couples. . . .
Once “activists” connected my Public Discourse piece of October 2, to the Texas brief, they went full throttle. Jeremy Hooper, the blogger at Good as You, uses his blog as a platform to harass, bully, and silence with impunity. Hooper published comments from his readers and thereby shared our home address and my daughter’s private information. They contacted other family members looking for information. They are not picky; true or made up assertions work for them equally. . . .
This cautionary tale should travel far and wide: a family threatened, people’s privacy invaded, harassment, threats, bullying, unwanted contact, abusive mischaracterization, incurred financial hardship.
These men may have revealed much more about themselves and the movement than they realize and damaged their credibility.

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Category: Feminism, Gays

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161 Responses to “The Gay Hate Machine”

concern00
October 27th, 2014 @ 9:56 pm

This story shines a bright light on the whole agenda of those who engage in homosexual behavior. I’m sure there are moderates among them that don’t vocally advocate the terrorism of the few, but they don’t speak out against them either. Now where have I heard that before?
Kalcen
October 27th, 2014 @ 10:14 pm

Lol, what a bitchfest. Salty much?

I read her Public Discourse Essay, this is all nothing more than a bitter woman who is pissed about being divorced and left behind. Not to mention that she was treated by the courts in the same manner that straight men are treated typically in divorce; unfairly. Doesn’t feel good does it?

Your story is is a one sided story. And it’s easy to tell through your writings that you aren’t being unbiased and honest, that instead you are being spiteful and refuse to take accountability for your own actions.

You’re trying a smear campaign and you are failing. Enjoy your divorce sweetheart.
RS
October 27th, 2014 @ 10:21 pm

The above comment being Exhibit “A” at how quickly the Gay Mafia can mobilize to shout down any dissenting voices. Even “Kalcen’s” remarks have that “cut and paste” feel beloved by those who cannot bother to read a post, but rather prefer to reach into a bag of canned replies. Rather pathetic.
tim ANDERSON
October 27th, 2014 @ 10:24 pm

Upto l saw the bank draft saying $9371 , I didnt believe ..that…my best friend realie bringing in money part time from there new laptop. . there dads buddy has been doing this for only about 18 munths and at present repaid the loans on their villa and purchased a top of the range Fiat Panda . read the full info here

>>>>>>>>>>> job-storm.cₒm
RS
October 27th, 2014 @ 10:24 pm

The naive, gullible fools who somehow believe that the SSM debate is about “opening” marriage to all, fail to see the truth contained in stories such as these: SSM is solely about destruction. The cost of innocent lives such as the spouses and children of those who discover their heretofore latent “true” identities, promises and vows notwithstanding, are mere collateral damage in pursuit of endless, consequence-free “self-actualization.”
tim ANDERSON
October 27th, 2014 @ 10:25 pm

Upto l saw the bank draft saying $9371 , I didnt believe ..that…my best friend realie bringing in money part time from there new laptop. . there dads buddy has been doing this for only about 18 munths and at present repaid the loans on their villa and purchased a top of the range Fiat Panda . read the full info here

>>>>>>>>>> job-storm.cₒm
MeasureForMeasure
October 27th, 2014 @ 10:31 pm

Yep; Kalcen has no actual critique of what the article says-The writer is a just a bitter, angry woman because gay marriage is good all the time for everyone. Period, Don’t ask any questions or you will be attacked and harassed.
Kalcen
October 27th, 2014 @ 10:34 pm

“by those who cannot bother to read a post”
I did read the post. It’s nothing more than self pity based on a 1 sided story.

Did you notice how she never mentioned even one instance of her being wrong somewhere, or that anything, even just 1 thing, was her fault? No, not at all. Everything was her ex-husbands fault. Her entire story is “the world is against me and I deserve pity. Lets blame my gay ex-husband”
RS
October 27th, 2014 @ 10:41 pm

Let’s see. He took vows, but reneged because he decided he suddenly discovered he was gay. But of course, that’s her fault.

Your entire comment is predicated upon a belief that her husband’s behavior is somehow blameless. Here are the facts: He either lied to her when they were married and had children, or he betrayed his vows in order to pursue self-gratification, because the tingle in his crotch was more important than any promise made to others or the mental health of his children.
MeasureForMeasure
October 27th, 2014 @ 10:44 pm

You her ex-husband, cookie?
How do you know the truth of the matter? Because he’s gay he’s done nothing wrong .EVER?!!
Kalcen
October 27th, 2014 @ 10:44 pm

You want a critique then, how about this section from her essay:

“This is also true of same-sex couples who use assisted reproductive technologies such as surrogacy or sperm donation to have children. Such processes exploit men and women for their reproductive potential, treat children as products to be bought and sold”

The audacity of her to instantly try to villanize the aspect of being a surrogate or wanting to have children by gay people is so crude and outlandish.

Like the women that do agree to surogacy just do it cause it’s a pay check, like they are whores but with their uterus’s. And to completely feign the notion that yea, perhaps 2 gay men don’t want a child/children as a fashion accessory like a toy puppy or a cute purse, but that instead they want children inorder to have children. To provide a loving home and have a family.

This woman is a bitter hag.
Kalcen
October 27th, 2014 @ 10:45 pm

I’m not a person named “cookie” and the over point here is what i’ve been saying…THIS IS A ONE SIDED STORY. NONE of us know what is going on. But through her writings we can see she is being biased and refuses to be self-aware.
Kalcen
October 27th, 2014 @ 10:47 pm

“Let’s see. He took vows, but reneged because he decided he suddenly discovered he was gay. But of course, that’s her fault.”

I never said it was her fault. She said it was his fault. She does alot of finger pointing in her writings and very little self accountability.

“Your entire comment is predicated upon a belief that her husband’s behavior is somehow blameless.”

Nope, my entire comment is based on that this is ONE SIDE to a two sided story. And that of her entire writings she never takes accountability for anything, all she does is finger point. A trade mark of being blinded or biased.

“He either lied to her when they were married and had children, or he betrayed his vows in order to pursue self-gratification, because the tingle in his crotch was more important than any promise made to others or the mental health of his children.”

You are not the Janna nor are her ex-husband. Which means you do not know the facts here.
RS
October 27th, 2014 @ 10:48 pm

The fact is the process indeed reduces humans to a commodity to be bought and sold. And yes, gay people want children as an accessory to demonstrate how “normal” they are. As for your second paragraph, bone up on your English, and try again, Sparky.
RS
October 27th, 2014 @ 10:50 pm

Um, you have asserted he is gay and left her. If those facts are true, then my paragraph above is correct. Logic is marvelous thing. You should try it.
Kalcen
October 27th, 2014 @ 10:51 pm

“The fact is the process indeed reduces humans to a commodity to be bought and sold”

Humans being bought and sold is called slavery. Having some one agree to be a surrogate for you is not slavery.

“gay people want children as an accessory to demonstrate how “normal” they are”

There is no proof to this claim.

“As for your second paragraph, bone up on your English, and try again, Sparky.”

I am not an english professor. I’m just I have grammatical mistakes. That does not invalidate my argument though. Try again, Sparky.
Adobe_Walls
October 27th, 2014 @ 10:52 pm

I’ve posted this link before and probably will again.

http://thefederalist.com/2014/02/19/the-brave-new-world-of-same-sex-marriage/
Kalcen
October 27th, 2014 @ 10:52 pm

Um I never said he wasn’t gay and didn’t leave her. Those are direct things asserted by the writing itself.

So whats your point?
Matthew T. Mason
October 27th, 2014 @ 10:54 pm

Soooo….are you saying what Rosenzweig and Hooper are doing to these women is perfectly okay with you? Because that’s what this is all about, not some small, out of context facet.
RS
October 27th, 2014 @ 10:55 pm

The product of the surrogacy is human. It is sold and bought, without its consent. You need to stop now. With each comment, you demonstrate your imbecility.
RS
October 27th, 2014 @ 10:57 pm

You only show up when gay marriage is the issue. I’ve read your comment feed.
Kalcen
October 27th, 2014 @ 10:58 pm

“The product of the surrogacy is human. It is sold and bought,”

Incorrect. The child is not sold and bought. The reproductivity, the carrying of a child to term, and the womans womb is rented…the child is not. The child is a gift from the woman to the purchaser of her time.

“without its consent”

The same can be said for any child that is ever birthed in existence. The child has no consent in the matter of it’s creation.

“You need to stop now. With each comment, you demonstrate your imbecility.”

You also need to stop. Since you think that a surrogate carrying a child for a couple that cannot conceive on their own is a bad thing. How horribly selfish and hateful you are.
Adobe_Walls
October 27th, 2014 @ 10:58 pm

You know this blue on blue infighting is heartbreaking. There should be some way to get the cis-radfemes and trans-lesbians as well as GLAAD (odd name for a group that’s always shrieking) and the Good as you folks and just work this out. Put them all in one big room give them each a packet of bath salts and a complimentary letter opener.
MeasureForMeasure
October 27th, 2014 @ 10:58 pm

Well and succinctly said.
Kalcen
October 27th, 2014 @ 10:59 pm

“Soooo….are you saying what Rosenzweig and Hooper are doing to these women is perfectly okay with you?”
I’m saying I don’t know what Rosenzweig and Hooper are doing because this 1 side to a 2 sided story. And given the context of her writing, how all she does is finger point, and try to shame her husband and gay people altogether, it is more easily understood that she is biased and bitter in her writtings.
Kalcen
October 27th, 2014 @ 11:00 pm

I only argue things I know about. To argue about things you know nothing about is a mark of stupidity.
RS
October 27th, 2014 @ 11:00 pm

A “gift” from the woman? Well, then. That makes soooooooo much difference to the “humans as commodity” argument. Really, you are a moron.
Kalcen
October 27th, 2014 @ 11:03 pm

“A “gift” from the woman? Well, then. That makes soooooooo much difference to the “humans as commodity” argument”
Thats exactly what it is though you moron. It’s a gift from the woman bestowed by god. Are you that dense? The creation of human life is a miracle. Shame on you for trying to villanize it.
RS
October 27th, 2014 @ 11:16 pm

I’d respond to that comment if it made any sense whatsoever. Alas, it does not.
Kalcen
October 27th, 2014 @ 11:21 pm

You are absolutely right. A comment that directly acknowledges that a surrogate carrying a child for a couple that cannot have children, is indeed a blessing by god is COMPLETELY un-understandable.

Next up your going to try and tell me that being a surrogate and wanting children is an act of the devil.
Fail Burton
October 27th, 2014 @ 11:56 pm

You’ve heard it from people who think fair play and principle is a swinging weather vane, or a flock of birds.
MeasureForMeasure
October 28th, 2014 @ 12:14 am

I think people who are unable to have kids because of medical problems should look at surrogacy.
I think people who want to have kids when nature isn’t meant for two women or two men to have kids by natural biological means are unfortunate. Go out and adopt some kids. There are plenty of older kids who need homes and the money could be spent on helping people here now who need help. I know two gay guys who adopted older boys. They are good fathers.
They didn’t attempt to circumvent nature.
Nan
October 28th, 2014 @ 12:24 am

Bestowed with third-party intervention is not bestowed by God. God bestowed children on man and woman who put tab a in slot b. Not two men who inherently need a third party involved.
Nan
October 28th, 2014 @ 12:25 am

Aware that her husband betrayed her?
Kalcen
October 28th, 2014 @ 12:28 am

“Bestowed with third-party intervention is not bestowed by God.”

Congratulations. Every infertile couple on the planet, you just deemed invalid. While also claiming to speak for god. You are quite the gem of a person.

“God bestowed children on man and woman who put tab a in slot b.”

No proof of this matter, just your personal speculation
Kalcen
October 28th, 2014 @ 12:28 am

She is very aware that her husband left her, hence her rant.
Adobe_Walls
October 28th, 2014 @ 12:44 am

Ooh, the coveted hater epithet, congratulations.
Nan
October 28th, 2014 @ 12:52 am

You just said she lacks self awareness. Which is it? Her husband either lied at the outset or places a higher value on perverted activities than on fidelity to his promises, such as forsaking all others, and his children’s need for both biological parents.
Finrod Felagund
October 28th, 2014 @ 1:39 am

So you’re a single-issue crusader, then.

Get a life.
richard mcenroe
October 28th, 2014 @ 1:53 am

Yaoi Boy proves Stacy’s point even while he protests it.
Matthew T. Mason
October 28th, 2014 @ 7:08 am

You don’t know? I read the same article you did. Quit playing games.
Kalcen
October 28th, 2014 @ 9:44 am

“You just said she lacks self awareness. Which is it?”

Acknowledging that your husband left you is not “self awareness”. Thats just acknowledgement of reality.

“Her husband either lied at the outset or places a higher value on perverted activities than on fidelity to his promises”

Or he had been lying for years and decided that living in truth was more important than living a lie.

“and his children’s need for both biological parents.”

Funny, last I checked, just because he is gay does not mean his children do not have access to him.
Nan
October 28th, 2014 @ 9:53 am

Are you an idiot? It is the father who has custody and is raising the children with the man he left their mother for. They’re being raised to believe that perverted behavior is normal.

if he had been lying for years he obviously entered the marriage under false pretenses.
Nan
October 28th, 2014 @ 9:55 am

The ex should be ashamed
Kalcen
October 28th, 2014 @ 10:05 am

Or she should. We both don’t know the full story
Nan
October 28th, 2014 @ 10:07 am

He deceived her, divorced her and is raising their kids with another pervert. He should be ashamed.
Kalcen
October 28th, 2014 @ 10:09 am

“It is the father who has custody and is raising the children with the man he left their mother for”

Duh. And WOW a father has custody over his kids, what a horrible thing that he gets to raise them. And here’s a good question: if he has full custody over his kids, then how does she know what they are thinking and how they feel about this divorce? Which means her writing is a lie in regards to what they want. IF he has partial custody, then that means she also has partial custody. Fair is fair.

“They’re being raised to believe that perverted behavior is normal.”

Homosexuality is normal, its a scientific fact. And you don’t know what they are being raised to believe, you are not their parents.

“if he had been lying for years he obviously entered the marriage under false pretenses.”
Alot of gay men enter into a hetero marriage under false pretenses. Those false pretenses tend to be delusions. Whats your point? That entering into a marriage under false pretenses means anything?
Kalcen
October 28th, 2014 @ 10:11 am

“He should be ashamed”
Or she should be ashmed. Again you and I do not know the full story. Nor do we know the content of the character of the ex-husband. But through this writing, and her essay, we can see a glimmer of her character and she is nothing but spiteful and angry.
Nan
October 28th, 2014 @ 10:17 am

Homosexuality is not normal nor is entering a marriage based on a lie. the. children are being raised in an unnatural situation. That’s the fxct
Andy Fox
October 28th, 2014 @ 11:04 am

There have been some intellectually honest SSM advocates who admitted the truth (these were the people way out in front of the mainstream of the movement) — they don’t want the white picket fence and two cars in the driveway. They want to radically restructure society, i.e., destroy it as we know it today. Those of the SSM movement who buy into the bourgeois picture are rubes, useful towards the ultimate end.