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Who Are These Creepazoids?

Posted on | April 3, 2015 | 25 Comments

Nine times out of 10, the stuff I read on feminist blogs is either so intellectually dishonest as to inspire laughter — or indignation that anyone, man or woman, could take it seriously. Feminist writing generally ranges from the melodramatic to the paranoid to the hateful to the deliberately deceptive, and 90 percent of it I can debunk, dismiss or ridicule, depending on my mood and the gravity of the feminist error.

McCain’s Law of Feminism

There are three kinds of feminism:

1. Feminism that is wrong;
2. Feminism that is crazy;
3. Feminism that is both wrong and crazy.

When in doubt, it’s usually Number Three.

Despite the predictable craziness and wrongness of feminism, there are nonetheless legitimate sources of grievance, and today I read a woman’s account of a creepazoid’s pickup attempt on the streets of London. This wasn’t your typical problem, i.e., The Beta With Bad Game, a 21st-century parable of male failure I’ve heard or witnessed over and over again. It wasn’t just that this loser had no lines, no style and no social awareness. Rather, he was aggressive to the point of menacing:

A man approached me as I was about to walk into a supermarket. He came very close, invading my personal space. He wasn’t what you would call intimidating; he was average build and a little taller than 5’6. Even still, alarm bells started to ring. He asked for my name, so I gave a fake one. . . .
He asked about what I did for a living, where I studied, what I studied, what food I liked, if I was a local to the area. Throughout the whole conversation I kept my answers short, looked down and kept attempting to back away.


It’s like these dudes have been raised by wolves or something. Lacking social awareness, they don’t recognize their own deficiency. They can’t read signals and don’t know how to deal with rejection.

Look, I don’t want to give away any closely guarded secrets here, but the Cold Hit — the unsolicited approach to a total stranger — is one of the most difficult feats of romantic pursuit. Knowing that the odds are overwhelmingly against success, if you make such a play, you do so with the expectation of rejection. You get shot down, you apologize for the intrusion and move on. And you are never — let me repeat, never — going to pull off the Cold Hit the way that dude played it. If that’s the best you can do, don’t even bother leaving the house.

“He came very close, invading my personal space . . . alarm bells started to ring.” Is there some sort of Creepazoid Academy where these losers learn these bad moves? Did this guy watch a training video, “How to Act Like a Psychopath”? But wait, you haven’t heard the worst of it yet:

Naturally, when I backed away he stepped closer, once again invading my personal space. As expected he asked for my number, telling me he’d miss-call me, which meant he would call me then and there to check that I had given him the correct number. It meant I couldn’t give a fake number without him being aware. When I finally mustered up the strength to escape go into the shop I’d been was heading into and escape, he said, “You’re not confident,” and “We’ll work on that”.  I was floored.


Idiots this clueless need to be locked up somewhere. Again, I don’t want to give away any closely guarded secrets, but you don’t walk up to a total stranger and demand her phone number as if it were your God-given right to have it. If the “How to Act Like a Psychopath” training video you watched at the Creepazoid Academy said you could win with bad moves like this, guess what? THEY LIED TO YOU.

Some of these “Pickup Artist” idiots like Julien Blanc — an ugly pustule on the backside of humanity — actually get paid to give Bad Advice to Losers, because losers are (a) desperate for advice and (b) too clueless to tell the difference between good advice and bad advice.

It’s difficult to sympathize with any loser who’d pay Julien Blanc a nickel for his advice, but when you see stories of guys making these creepazoid moves, you see why there is no shortage of opportunities to defraud these desperate losers of their money.

What we are witnessing, I believe, is the consequences of a breakdown in the social order. Rates of divorce and illegitimacy have been spiraling upwards for decades, producing many millions of young men who have grown up with the civilizing influence of loving families, without decent male role models, without the advice, discipline and example that fathers should provide young men. Our education system has only worsened these problems. Adults have abandoned their proper authority, so that young people are influenced more by peer pressure than by the responsible expectations of the adults who supervise them. Young people are allowed to wallow in the mire of their own childish impulses, rather than being required to strive for respectability.

It’s like Lord of the Flies, and these uncivilized brutes are never taught even the most basic rudiments of common courtesy, much less the charming manners appropriate to gentlemen.

Whatever else we might say about the creepazoid loser whose approach set alarm bells ringing for this woman in London, he was unspeakably rude. Yet we live in a culture where rudeness is celebrated on TV every night, and the degradation of manners has become so ubiquitous that people no longer have the courage to resist the floodtide of barbarism.

 “Get away from me, you weirdo, before I call the cops.”

Really: You’re standing in front of a supermarket in broad daylight, and an annoying stranger decides he’s got a right to demand your phone number? Humiliate that son of a bitch.

Maybe the decline of civilization has reached the point where this kind of creepazoid act is commonplace and women feel they must tolerate the menacing behavior of barbarous scum. Alas, the feminist offers a misleading explanation:

This is rape culture in action. The notion that my body is to be objectified wherever I am; that men are entitled to it if they want and that to say no is put yourself in danger. I know this because, out of my own experience and of the experiences of those close to me, those who say no to these men are verbally abused, followed home, and/or assaulted.

You can read the rest of that. It’s both crazy and wrong, but the problem is that so few adults are willing teach what’s sane and right.



25 Responses to “Who Are These Creepazoids?”

  1. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    April 3rd, 2015 @ 12:14 pm


  2. DeadMessenger
    April 3rd, 2015 @ 1:25 pm

    I think you’re right. I think it is made up. I mean, it’s not only implausible, but unthinkable that the female victim wouldn’t just tell him off and split. I can’t imagine anyone in their right mind putting up with more than about 2 seconds of this type of behavior.

    However, on the off-chance it is true, here’s where Christianity comes in handy. If you’re ever accosted by a guy like this, evangelize him. Maybe he’ll listen, but otherwise he’ll leave. Win-win outcome. Problem sol-ved.

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  4. Adobe_Walls
    April 3rd, 2015 @ 2:08 pm

    Too good to be true, too good to check.

  5. Dianna Deeley
    April 3rd, 2015 @ 2:14 pm

    Why didn’t she say the five magic words? “No! Get away from me!”

    It works every single time. Why on earth did she let him keep invading her space?

  6. petetheelder
    April 3rd, 2015 @ 2:30 pm

    I have seen and heard from women in very similar situations in public who for whatever reason won’t leave or make a scene. They are too polite to know better.

    I had an employee who was once in a situation like that and they said it went on for about 5 minutes and the guy wouldn’t leave her alone and she never made a scene. I told them if anything like that happened again to immediately get help. She described him to me and a little while later I saw him approach her again and I walked over and I asked him if I could help him. He said no, left the building, and we never saw him again.

  7. petetheelder
    April 3rd, 2015 @ 2:33 pm

    The rape culture part is total BS. Its not “culture” if the normal communal response is to publicly shame people who act like this. That is the opposite of culture and what he did is considered taboo behavior among typical civilized Western adults.

    There is a reason we call them creeps and it is because their behavior is abnormal.

  8. RS
    April 3rd, 2015 @ 2:43 pm

    Where I live, a woman accosted like this could knee the guy in the groin and not worry about being charged with anything. Note, however, this occurred in London, UK where self-defense is against the law.

  9. Dana
    April 3rd, 2015 @ 2:58 pm

    There’s always the story that you hear, “I knew a guy whose pick-up line was, ‘Wanna f***?’ who got slapped a lot, but also got laid a lot.” Somehow, I never found out who that guy was, but maybe he existed.

  10. OrangeEnt
    April 3rd, 2015 @ 3:11 pm

    Who are those Creepazoids? Vox readers? HuffPo readers? Salon readers? DU readers? Shall I go on?

  11. DeadMessenger
    April 3rd, 2015 @ 3:46 pm

    Maybe he flashed some cash when he said that?

  12. DeadMessenger
    April 3rd, 2015 @ 3:49 pm

    I’d kick the guy in the groin, then I’d kick him twice more in the groin while he was doubled over. And if I lived in London, I’d just tell the bobbies that the guy was quoting Leviticus to me and I felt threatened.

  13. Kirby McCain
    April 3rd, 2015 @ 4:36 pm

    Turns out Charlie Sheen was visiting some friends in London.

  14. RS
    April 3rd, 2015 @ 5:35 pm
  15. M. Thompson
    April 3rd, 2015 @ 6:15 pm

    Because she doesn’t understand that sometimes, the social equivalent of a sledgehammer is the best way to talk to someone.

  16. M. Thompson
    April 3rd, 2015 @ 6:16 pm

    When I was much younger, I was dreadfully afraid of being creepy, so it killed any chance I could have had of a social life.

  17. Phil_McG
    April 3rd, 2015 @ 8:09 pm

    Assuming her story is 100% true and unembellished, it’s a sad case of one mental illness meeting another.

    Her flavours of crazy:

    * Feminist
    * “pansexual”
    * Uses the term “cis” unironically
    * Paranoid delusion about “rape culture”
    * “social and eco justice”

    His variety of cuckoo:

    * Some sort of autism spectrum disorder

    So she’s winning on the crazy front.

    Let’s recap her story: a man awkwardly tried to hit on a privileged posh girl (Georgia Smith-Marr is a recent graduate of Goldsmiths, University of London where she studied history and politics.) outside a supermarket, and she didn’t like it.

    That’s all. No bottoms were pinched. No milk was spilt. Nobody got raped or murdered. Only feelings were hurt, and our feisty feminist heroine ran home to tell her mother and the internet about her “almost raped” story.

    I sympathise with the confused young feminist for her unpleasant experience, but not with the several hundred words of earnest lexical diarrhoea she disgorged about it, where she tied her mundane encounter to Elliot Rodger, murder, rape and revenge porn (!) as if her unsolicited conversation with a random weirdo has some great social significance.

    It does not.

    Men encounter weirdos too, though less frequently than women. If you’re going to live in a big city like London, you’re going to bump into oddballs from time to time. If Georgia Smith-Marr, at the age of 22, isn’t capable of brushing off the socially maladjusted without her hyperactive imagination going into overdrive, perhaps a convent is more her speed.

  18. Daniel Freeman
    April 4th, 2015 @ 1:44 am

    Stacy, have you considered attending ICMI ’15 in October? It’s being held in Houston this time, and the theme this year is building bridges between men and women in the 21st century.

    AVfM is aggressively non-partisan, completely issue-oriented and global, but they’re just the sponsor and I believe that it would be a good networking opportunity. Also, they would eat your book up.

  19. ericjg623
    April 4th, 2015 @ 7:24 am

    Yeah, the “London” part makes sense. The Brits have allowed themselves to be disarmed by their politicians, and supposedly if an intruder enters your house, your first legal obligation is to escape, and only if that is not possible are you allowed to defend yourself (without a gun, of course).

    Growing up in a country with this sort of mentality, I suppose this girl’s reaction makes total sense. In contrast, an American girl would simply whip out a snub nosed revolver from her purse and the weirdo would be given a very clear message – back off or else!

  20. Matt_SE
    April 4th, 2015 @ 11:29 am

    “Is there some sort of Creepazoid Academy where these losers learn these bad moves?”
    Two, that I can tell: you already nailed the PUA angle, though that community’s advice varies greatly in quality.
    The other academy is Hollywood. Think of all the “romantic” moves depicted in movies that would get an arrest or restraining order in reality. Sure, if you were an attractive billionaire that wouldn’t be the result, but if you were an attractive billionaire I doubt you’d be hurting for dates.
    Young men grow up socialized to believe this crap actually works, when it is an unintentional lie.
    The feminist explanation is, of course, poppycock.

  21. Phil_McG
    April 4th, 2015 @ 11:43 am

    I read a couple of manosphere blogs.

    A lot (maybe most) of these “PUA” guys are get-rich-quick scammers or fantasists, preying on the vulnerable and lonely. A few have good advice, focussing on self-improvement, self-confidence and making yourself interesting to women.

    “Young men grow up socialized to believe this crap”

    This is particularly a problem for young men raised by single mothers.

    “The feminist explanation is, of course, poppycock”

    The Grand Unified Feminist Theory of Everything is that every setback, every disappointment, and every minor inconvenience in a woman’s life is caused by a vast right-wing conspiracy of white, Christian men.

  22. Daniel Freeman
    April 4th, 2015 @ 7:03 pm

    Thanks for the link! Good story. Some highlights:

    Only three days after he was released from Gadsden County Prison, he found himself back in cuffs in the custody of the Florida State University Police Department.
    . . .
    As the victim struggled, several Kappa Alpha Psi fraternity brothers were walking near the Oglesby Student Union when they unknowingly walked into a crime in progress.
    . . .
    As he ran, he approached an undercover Florida State University police officer and asked to get in the unmarked cruiser. The officer granted his request and took him into custody.

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  25. texan99
    April 7th, 2015 @ 10:04 am

    Like that poster showing a smiling little old lady holding a big .45: “The police should be here in about 10 minutes. In the meantime, let’s talk about Jesus.”