by Smitty
Via Hot Air, emphasis mine:
In an appearance on Capitol Hill on Tuesday, Gruber was probed by Rep. Mike Turner (R-OH) over his lamentation that the administration’s lack of honesty about the imposition of taxes both on those who do not purchase insurance and on those who do have insurance. Turner prodded Gruber over whether he had any conversations with members of the White House who perhaps shared his opinion that the ACA needed to be crafted in a “tortured” way to ensure its passage.
After much deliberation, Gruber finally answered: “I honestly do not recall.”
One does not condone torture, but occasionally one perceives the source of temptation to throw someone down the stairs, up the stairs, and then back down the stairs. Anything to enhance the likelihood of recollection.
Hand-cranked field phone. Wires. Genitals.
Some assembly required.
While torturing him just for his involvement in Obamacare would be entirely justified as well as entertaining I think we need to keep this guy handy. Every time some new glitch in the workings of the ACA arises he should be recalled to testify about it’s effects on the broader scheme. As this will involve him appearing in videos as well as talking in front of microphones we’d do well to make sure no marks are visible.
Usually, one would attribute a failing memory to ‘Old-timers’ disease” but in this case, I think it’s ‘sniveling consultant’s disease’.
I’m reminded of a scene from “Taken” that involved the creative application of electricity.
The former IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman was logged in to visit the White House 118 times in just over 18 months overlapping the period when Lerner was working her magic. He testified before a House committee that he could not recall why he was there or who he saw – on ANY of the 118 visits.
We have a good idea what Gruber did, no matter what he remembers. Shulman is the guy we need water-boarded.
The materials needed for water-boarding are fairly cheap and widely available as would be volunteers for doing the work, I see no need to limit the number of candidates.
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The Olympic Waterboarding team needs to get in some practice before 2016!
We could be really cruel and expose these detainees to video tapes of Amanda Marcott for extended periods. Maybe force them to watch like in “Clockwork Orange.”
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He’s using the “Obama Defense”. It’s better to appear stupid rather than guilty. But the Republicans aren’t going to repeal Obamacare anyway so it’s really just a show hearing.
With the exception of Gowdy, he’s in it to win it.
Gruber’s far too weak for torture. A week or so in county lockup for contempt of Congress would do just fine.
People sometimes forget that CGI technology is quite advanced these days – you can ‘Photoshop’ anything.
The verdict is still out on Mr. Gowdy.
You’re such a party-pooper.
Ah yes, the Ludovico Technique. Bolshy great fun if you’re the one applying it. >:)
Yeah but people would see him the in hall and such. Then we’d have to torture them and so on and so on. After a hundred rounds or so of this we’d eventually get to people who might not deserve it.
Water board him. When he whines, do it again. Record it and put the clip up on You Tube for the entertainment of all the “idiots” he was talking about.
I’d sentence him damnatio ad bestia, but that would be cruelty to the Lions.
Gruber needs to be held to account, but I’m not so sure he was as much of a mastermind as people claim. I’ve been troubled by people on the right seeming to forget who was actually charged with drafting the ACA Bill. Here’s a recent comment of mine that explains it.:
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Before Gruber's name became so well known, many reporters and insiders claimed that Liz Fowler (a former executive at Wellpoint) wrote most of Obamacare. In fact, many people from Wellpoint (an insurance company) ended up working on the bill at the behest of Max Baucus, who was then Chair of the Senate Finance Committee.
In other words, while Obama and Gruber met frequently, and Baucus had a bunch of lobbyists writing the bill, if Gruber didn’t interact with Baucus and his unpaid workers, then Gruber would be guilty of simply advising Obama (how to
talklie to the people about it) and that’s all.Remember, Baucus was causing gastric distress for the Obamanoids when he started complaining about the fact that Healthcare (dot)gov was a “trainwreck”
Time’s “swampland” blog:
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Herr Obergruppenführer Grüber was probably more of an advisor, and was happy to tell Der Reichsführer how to lie about the damn thing.
He’s freaking fabulous on certain topics, but I’m afraid he’s been quite definite in his support for legalizing the illegal alien population.
Information retrieval department?
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Gruber: “I honestly do not recall.”
Translation: I do recall, but dishonestly will tell you differently.
Gruber only had one encounter with honesty and it was captured on video.
I’m not so sure about that…..
Think about who this guy is and where he lives, works and hangs out.
I think reasons could be found to apply Enhanced Interrogation Techniques to anybody this fellow comes in contact with.
Yeah he sounds like a collaborator.