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Fail Mosque Jokers Really Annoy

Posted on | July 17, 2010 | 18 Comments

by Smitty

This week’s FMJRA offers Scalia body language to New York City Minor Bloomberg, who loses the respect of the title ‘Mayor’ from this blog, due to a pattern of invertebrate cretinous behavior. To Brussels with your dhimmitude, Bloomberg.

Over in the comments on the Geller post, Kn@ppster makes a straight libertarian play on the mosque. I follow the logic of the argument right up to this point: that building is a component of an act of war, and the intended use of the structure, with all history and current events taken into consideration, is possibly a continuation of that act of war. There are times for theory, and times for pragmatism.

This inevitably leads to the Japanese Internment question, which underscores my point: requesting, for reasons of 3,000 corpses, a different venue is simply not much to ask, at all. OTOH, Bloomberg’s three card monte approach to the public hearings is despicable.

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Comments

  • qq

    gg, why do you assume Islamophobia?

    Personally, I’m against the ground zero mosque not just because it’s tasteless and a sign of surrender, but because I think any Muslims who go there could be in danger. Most New Yorkers wouldn’t take up arms over this, but it only takes one psycho with some explosives…

    My best friend is a Muslim, and I am afraid for him not because I think rightwingers want his blood, but because the Left has made Islamophobia WORSE. Leftists, refusing to concede the dangers of Islamofascism early on, have effectively prevented any release of pressure; anger, rather than being released in small amounts, has condensed into outright hate.

    Meanwhile, the Left refuses to acknowledge any difference between the radical Muslims and the moderates! To you, they’re all the same! You’re willing to listen to whoever shouts loudest rather than whoever demonstrates actual moderate behavior! The left has done more to blur the lines between terrorists and good Muslims than any Republican politician.

    The Muslim Brotherhood is not a moderate organization. CAIR is not a moderate organization. This mosque is not a moderate symbol. And I am not an Islamophobe for opposing it’s construction.

  • qq

    gg, why do you assume Islamophobia?

    Personally, I’m against the ground zero mosque not just because it’s tasteless and a sign of surrender, but because I think any Muslims who go there could be in danger. Most New Yorkers wouldn’t take up arms over this, but it only takes one psycho with some explosives…

    My best friend is a Muslim, and I am afraid for him not because I think rightwingers want his blood, but because the Left has made Islamophobia WORSE. Leftists, refusing to concede the dangers of Islamofascism early on, have effectively prevented any release of pressure; anger, rather than being released in small amounts, has condensed into outright hate.

    Meanwhile, the Left refuses to acknowledge any difference between the radical Muslims and the moderates! To you, they’re all the same! You’re willing to listen to whoever shouts loudest rather than whoever demonstrates actual moderate behavior! The left has done more to blur the lines between terrorists and good Muslims than any Republican politician.

    The Muslim Brotherhood is not a moderate organization. CAIR is not a moderate organization. This mosque is not a moderate symbol. And I am not an Islamophobe for opposing it’s construction.

  • http://www.justgrits.wordpress.com Obi’s Sister

    Thanks for the linky love. Have a great holiday in the Big H.

  • http://www.justgrits.wordpress.com Obi’s Sister

    Thanks for the linky love. Have a great holiday in the Big H.

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  • http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com Reaganite Republican

    I used to think Bloomberg seemed pretty pragmatic at first… what a odd duck he turned out to be.

    I’ll bet those fries they sell in the lunchcarts are just great now fried in sunflower oil and with no salt, blech

    Linked today at RR-

    http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/2010/07/meandering-righty-blogoverse.html

  • http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com Reaganite Republican

    I used to think Bloomberg seemed pretty pragmatic at first… what a odd duck he turned out to be.

    I’ll bet those fries they sell in the lunchcarts are just great now fried in sunflower oil and with no salt, blech

    Linked today at RR-

    http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/2010/07/meandering-righty-blogoverse.html

  • http://thecampofthesaints.wordpress.com Bob Belvedere

    Oh!…so the Supreme Imperial Council of the VRWC gave you the Hawaii assignment! Man…it’s amazing how far a little targeted brown nosing goes. I don’t intend to take this sitting down…no sir-ree: I’m going to stand up and wave my arms in a girly fashion just like our Nancy-Boy-In-Chief.

  • http://thecampofthesaints.wordpress.com Bob Belvedere

    Oh!…so the Supreme Imperial Council of the VRWC gave you the Hawaii assignment! Man…it’s amazing how far a little targeted brown nosing goes. I don’t intend to take this sitting down…no sir-ree: I’m going to stand up and wave my arms in a girly fashion just like our Nancy-Boy-In-Chief.

  • codekeyguy

    The mosque is nothing more than an “in your face” challange. The concept of a “moderate” muslim doesn’t exist. Muslims are either jihadists or silent supporters of jihad. There are no other kinds. Muslims lie, cheat, and steal with the blessing of the pedophile Mohammed(May he be smeared with pig blood) in that piece of useless trash, the koran. If they build it, it will only be a matter of time…

  • codekeyguy

    The mosque is nothing more than an “in your face” challange. The concept of a “moderate” muslim doesn’t exist. Muslims are either jihadists or silent supporters of jihad. There are no other kinds. Muslims lie, cheat, and steal with the blessing of the pedophile Mohammed(May he be smeared with pig blood) in that piece of useless trash, the koran. If they build it, it will only be a matter of time…

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  • http://knappster.blogspot.com Thomas L. Knapp

    Smitty,

    The problem with your “act of war” theory is that in the nine years between 9/11 and now — and for that matter in the 65 years since the end of WWII — Congress has declined to put the US in, legally speaking, a state of war.

    As a matter of fact, Congress went out of its way in the various post-9/11 “authorizations for the use of force” to include emphatic language to the effect that those “authorizations” were not declarations of war.

    That’s one of the biggest problems with the various actions pursuant to the “war on terror.”

    If Congress doesn’t give enough of a shit to make it legal (it took them what, 16 hours after Pearl Harbor to do so?) and declare war, why should anyone else take seriously the claim that the US is at war, or grant government expanded powers of the type that tend to accompany such a declaration?

    Furthermore — this has only come to my attention in the last 24 hours or so — the whole thing is a tempest in a teapot since the proposed project is not a mosque.

  • http://knappster.blogspot.com Thomas L. Knapp

    Smitty,

    The problem with your “act of war” theory is that in the nine years between 9/11 and now — and for that matter in the 65 years since the end of WWII — Congress has declined to put the US in, legally speaking, a state of war.

    As a matter of fact, Congress went out of its way in the various post-9/11 “authorizations for the use of force” to include emphatic language to the effect that those “authorizations” were not declarations of war.

    That’s one of the biggest problems with the various actions pursuant to the “war on terror.”

    If Congress doesn’t give enough of a shit to make it legal (it took them what, 16 hours after Pearl Harbor to do so?) and declare war, why should anyone else take seriously the claim that the US is at war, or grant government expanded powers of the type that tend to accompany such a declaration?

    Furthermore — this has only come to my attention in the last 24 hours or so — the whole thing is a tempest in a teapot since the proposed project is not a mosque.

  • http://theothermccain.com smitty

    @Kn@ppster,
    While I don’t dispute the facts of your response in any particular, I do dispute the scope of your analysis.

    The fact that proper declarations of war are yet another example of Constitutional decay in the country is tangential.

    When you expand your analysis to include what’s going on across Europe, and in Africa, and, oh, Dearborn, MI, your analysis seems to contain more than a healthy jigger of Chamberlainism.

    NTTAWWT. Furthermore, I’d argue that the pooh-pooh crowd is important for keeping the knee-jerk reaction crowd in check.

    Nevertheless, your attention is drawn to Andy McCarthy’s new book. I’m genuinely interested in hearing your views on his ideas. They are sobering.

  • http://theothermccain.com smitty

    @Kn@ppster,
    While I don’t dispute the facts of your response in any particular, I do dispute the scope of your analysis.

    The fact that proper declarations of war are yet another example of Constitutional decay in the country is tangential.

    When you expand your analysis to include what’s going on across Europe, and in Africa, and, oh, Dearborn, MI, your analysis seems to contain more than a healthy jigger of Chamberlainism.

    NTTAWWT. Furthermore, I’d argue that the pooh-pooh crowd is important for keeping the knee-jerk reaction crowd in check.

    Nevertheless, your attention is drawn to Andy McCarthy’s new book. I’m genuinely interested in hearing your views on his ideas. They are sobering.

  • http://knappster.blogspot.com Thomas L. Knapp

    Smitty,

    I haven’t read McCarthy’s book yet. I probably will at some point.

    Chamberlainism my ass. I’ve never denied that America has Islamist enemies, or that they must be dealt with harshly.

    America’s foreign policy since 2001, however, seems designed not to deal with them, but rather to curry favor for them among the lumpenmuslimtariat.

  • http://knappster.blogspot.com Thomas L. Knapp

    Smitty,

    I haven’t read McCarthy’s book yet. I probably will at some point.

    Chamberlainism my ass. I’ve never denied that America has Islamist enemies, or that they must be dealt with harshly.

    America’s foreign policy since 2001, however, seems designed not to deal with them, but rather to curry favor for them among the lumpenmuslimtariat.