Washington Post Publishes Jailbait Apologist (Ain’t I Done Told You So?)

Posted on | August 31, 2013 | 301 Comments

Besty Karasik is an airhead who quit her job as a laywer to become a painter. Whatever the art community gained by that transaction, the legal community lost no wisdom. In an op-ed in the Washington Post, Karasik argues for decriminalizing student-teacher sex:

[W]ith our legal and moral codes failing us, our society needs to have an uncensored dialogue about the reality of sex in schools. . . .
I don’t believe that all sexual conduct between underage students and teachers should necessarily be classified as rape, and I believe that absent extenuating circumstances, consensual sexual activity between teachers and students should not be criminalized. . . .
[T]he utter hysteria with which society responds to these situations does less to protect children than to assuage society’s need to feel that we are protecting them.

See, the problem is not teachers having sex with students. No, the real problem is the “utter hysteria” about this, and “society’s need to feel” that children are protected. In other words, the problem is your irrationality, whereas teachers banging their students . . . well, they’re in need of understanding and sympathy. Teachers who have sex with kids are victims, really — victims of your “utter hysteria.”

Coincidentally, I had just been re-reading Thomas Sowell’s The Vision of the Anointed, which addresses this rhetorical trick:

A concern that is important to the anointed is called “a matter of principle,” while a concern that is important to the benighted is called “an emotional issue.” Apparently other people don’t have reasons or principles; all they have are emotions.

So if you think teachers having sex with students should be criminally prosecuted, Karasik dismisses you as a hysteric. By contrast, Karasik’s own enthusiasms — “My loyalty is to justice and the planet,” she declares on her Twitter profile — she regards as entirely valid.

Betsy Karasik’s experience is simply superior to yours:

I’ve been a 14-year-old girl, and so have all of my female friends. When it comes to having sex on the brain, teenage boys got nothin’ on us. When I was growing up in the 1960s and ’70s, the sexual boundaries between teachers and students were much fuzzier. Throughout high school, college and law school, I knew students who had sexual relations with teachers. To the best of my knowledge, these situations were all consensual in every honest meaning of the word, even if society would like to embrace the fantasy that a high school student can’t consent to sex. Although some feelings probably got bruised, no one I knew was horribly damaged and certainly no one died.

You have never been a 14-year-old girl, so your opinion doesn’t count. And if you have been a 14-year-old girl, but still don’t think it should be legal for teachers to have sex with students? Well, never mind your objections, because Betsy Karasik says it’s just fine.

No harm, no foul — maybe some bruised feelings, but teachers banging their students is really only a problem because of “society” which, having already been condemned for its “utter hysteria,” she now diagnoses as being in the grip of “the fantasy that a high school student can’t consent to sex.” But is this really what society believes? Are “hysteria” and “fantasy” the basis of our laws? Are there no valid reasons to treat student-teacher sex as a crime?

After saying that workplace sexual harassment is worse than consensual sex between teenagers and teachers, Karasik alludes in passing to “certain teachers I considered friends despite their sexual relations with students.” Who are these teachers? Would she be so kind as to tell us their names, so that we might examine whether (as Karasik assures us) their sexual involvement with students was harmless?

But, no, she just throws this strange fact out there — some of Betsy Karasik’s friends are teachers who have sex with their students — and continues with her condemnation of society:

The point is that there is a vast and extremely nuanced continuum of sexual interactions involving teachers and students, ranging from flirtation to mutual lust to harassment to predatory behavior. Painting all of these behaviors with the same brush sends a damaging message to students and sets the stage for hypocrisy and distortion of the truth. Many teenagers are, biologically speaking, sexually mature. Pretending that this kind of thing won’t happen if we simply punish it severely enough is delusional.

Her rhetoric — “utter hysteria . . . fantasy . . . delusional” — is deliberately dismissive. All who disagree with Betsy Karasik are irrational, or are too stupid to understand that “vast and extremely nuanced continuum” of which enligthened people like herself are aware.

It’s not as if you couldn’t predict that such arguments would be made as our culture slid slowly down the slippery slope. In April 2002, I published an article with the headline, “Promoting pedophilia; Attempts to legitimize adult-child sex on rise,” and there were people then who said that such concerns were irrational.

In January of this year, Rush Limbaugh warned about “a movement to normalize pedophilia,” and was mocked by Soledad O’Brien.

Well, here we are in August, and the Washington Post is publishing columns advocating the legalization of student-teacher sex.

Wesley J. Smith at National Review says, “How low can we go? I am afraid we are going to find out.” Betsy Karasik finds herself shocked by the “tsunami of attackers” on Twitter:

@BradleySpeaks That really was my principle point, though you'd never know it from the tsunami of attackers.

— B Karasik (@PaintsNature) August 31, 2013

I have done my best to respond to those of you with questions but an opinion piece is meant to open discussion, not give all the answers.

— B Karasik (@PaintsNature) August 31, 2013

Of course, in her mind, the “tsunami” only confirms to Betsy Karasik that “society” is hysterical and delusional. She wants to “open discussion” about legalizing sex with 14-year-olds. And when society answers back, “Oh, hell, no”? This just proves you’re crazy.

UPDATE: Now a Memeorandum thread, with further commentary by Jazz Shaw at Hot Air and Tim Graham at the Media Research Center, but I like Stephen Kruiser’s solution best: “Kill the media.”

The world is full of idiots with bad ideas and the editors of the Washington Post are obligated to publish only the very worst of them. One cannot reform such institutions as the Washington Post and the New York Times, but can only pray for their well-deserved destruction, because their wicked depravity is not accidental.

The publishers are amoral monsters, their editors are active agents of evil, and their deliberate policy is to employ no honest or decent person. Nor could any honest or decent person ever wish to be associated with publications whose daily business is the destruction of Western civilization. A Christian would no more desire to be published by the Washington Post than to work in an abortion clinic or a bordello. It is a disgraceful stain on the conscience of our nation.

Fact: It’s hard to type when your fingers are trembling with rage.

UPDATE II: A couple of trolls got zapped. Wombat seems to be offline today, so I had to wield the troll-hammer myself, especially since one of these was a false-flag moby troll — the very worst kind, worse even than concern trolls. The comments are moderated and, while the proprietors obviously do not approve of everything in the comments (hell, I never even see most of them), there are certain lines that shall not be crossed, and vicious creatures who use bogus identities for deliberate evil will be zapped. If necessary, you will be IP-banned.

Go troll somewhere else, you monstrous fucktards.

Category: Culture, Education, Sex

Comments

301 Responses to “Washington Post Publishes Jailbait Apologist (Ain’t I Done Told You So?)”

JoeD
August 31st, 2013 @ 7:21 pm

Called from a dark, dank, sewer is more like it.
JoeD
August 31st, 2013 @ 7:26 pm

Yes, we know there were Nazi homosexuals you sickening blight and if you knew history the most prominent one was murdered on the “Night of the Long Knives”. Second, lovely the way you refuse to look at how your take on homosexuals is virtually the same and as twisted as the Nazi party’s was. And as if because there were closet homosexuals in the Nazi party that somehow changes the fact that Nazis were openly persecuted or is your twisted little mind saying that homosexuals are Nazis? You will twist anything you have to in order fit your narrative and demonize your opposition. You’re a disgusting excuse for a human being and the world would be far better of without you in it.
JoeD
August 31st, 2013 @ 7:26 pm

And for some actual history:

http://www.ushmm.org/museum/exhibit/online/hsx/
Alessandra
August 31st, 2013 @ 7:29 pm

“Yes, political liberals are the only one’s having sex before marriage
and have never had a lasting or healthy marriage in the history of human kind. ”

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It takes a lot of stupidity to NOT read what I write and then make up stuff in my name.

http://alessandrareflections.wordpress.com/homosexuality-page/

One could say it’s a particular sickness, this debilitating stupidity displayed in your trolling that apparently you just can’t heal from, but I’m now more becoming more inclined to think your retarded faculties are inborn.
Alessandra
August 31st, 2013 @ 7:35 pm

It’s clear to me that insults like “you’re a disgusting excuse for a human being” and “you’re the kind of person that the world would be far better of without” is exactly what the Nazis said of the Jews – and proceeded to put into practice.

See how much you two have in common?

And, in case we have to remind you again, your take on homosexuality is virtually the same and as twisted as every homosexual pedophile monster like Frank Lombard, et al.
Given that Hitler just loved Ernst Rohm to pieces, guess whom you also share a lot of remsemblance with?
RealityD
August 31st, 2013 @ 7:38 pm

OK, “JoeD”, this isnt about Alessandra. This is about whether YOU think it’s OK to allow adults sexual access to school children. So “JoeD”, what are YOUR thoughts on that subject? Alessandra seems to be have the right opinion on this matter, how’s about YOU.
DaveO
August 31st, 2013 @ 7:38 pm

Shorter Karasik: those with power may do as they wish, to whom they wish. Don’t call it rape. Call it the naked exercise of power.
RealityD
August 31st, 2013 @ 7:40 pm

If you’re so sure that you and your fellow gays are about to get granted a get out of jail free card for statutory rape, what are you so agitated about.
Alessandra
August 31st, 2013 @ 7:45 pm

As religion went into the ditch in the 20th century in terms of authority and the moral voice in society, the vacuum was taken up by the ideology of privileged, and largely parasitic, men regarding
sexuality.

Many men are socially conditioned to be exploitative and perverted regarding sex, even if they target women outside their families for the
worse of the exploitation (and violence). The women’s movement liberated women from the yoke of very patriarchal constraints of oppression, and
joined hands with the sexual revolution in the 60?s/70?s. As a result, a new ideology was taught to many women, to become increasingly like men
in order to wield power in society and in private spheres. Therefore, women who were previously brought up to be non sexually perverted
mothers and wives, became more and more of sluts and adopted many of the parasitic attitudes and behaviors from perverted men, including consumption and normalization of porn, along with bisexuality and homosexuality.

How to fix it all? By action! Personal, cultural, political, legal – it’s the only way.
RealityD
August 31st, 2013 @ 8:00 pm

Unsurprisingly, the lefty troll swarm that has come out to attack normal people who are outraged by anyone who supports making kids prey for sex fiends proves the opposite. Oh, and shove your irony up your metaphor, you condescending twit.
RealityD
August 31st, 2013 @ 8:04 pm

Thank you for being an honest child rape supporter. It took a while, but doesnt it just feel better to tell the truth about what you believe, no matter how repugnant?
Fareedi al Laayla al Qakhaul
August 31st, 2013 @ 8:05 pm

I still have hope for Francis. He at least acknowledged The Problem exists. And the Vatican moves slowly…
museoaft
August 31st, 2013 @ 8:07 pm

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Dianna Deeley
August 31st, 2013 @ 8:19 pm

I said exactly the same words. In the same order. What is this? Truly great minds?
Dianna Deeley
August 31st, 2013 @ 8:23 pm

That is pathetically, patently, and ludicrously untrue. Further, there is no way you are unaware of the falsity of your assertion.
Ed Driscoll » ‘First The Grotesque,’ Indeed
August 31st, 2013 @ 8:26 pm

[…] More: “In January of this year, Rush Limbaugh warned about ‘a movement to normalize pedophilia,’ and was mocked by Soledad O’Brien,” notes Stacy McCain. “Well, here we are in August, and the Washington Post is publishing columns advocating the legalization of student-teacher sex.” […]
Rhondako
August 31st, 2013 @ 8:32 pm

RT @MelissaTweets: The Pointy Heads: Justifying Pedophilia and Normalizing the Depraved. http://t.co/bmix3txt80
thatMrGguy
August 31st, 2013 @ 9:26 pm

Washington Post Publishes Jailbait Apologist (Ain’t I Done Told You So?) http://t.co/q16xaPVEl2
Mike G.
August 31st, 2013 @ 9:46 pm

How about a Pilonidal Cyst on the posterior of society. In other words, a real pain in the ass.
Mike G.
August 31st, 2013 @ 9:51 pm

A turd I just flushed has value to me than you.

Now, is that any way to treat your family?
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Mike G.
August 31st, 2013 @ 10:09 pm

That is a question for the ages. But never fear my friend, the answer is blowing in the wind. No, really, the answers are in the Good Book, if only more people would read it.
BobBelvedere
August 31st, 2013 @ 10:15 pm

RT @thatMrGguy: Washington Post Publishes Jailbait Apologist (Ain’t I Done Told You So?) http://t.co/q16xaPVEl2
rmnixondeceased
August 31st, 2013 @ 10:43 pm

Heh!
rmnixondeceased
August 31st, 2013 @ 10:45 pm

A sacrococcygeal fistula is a pilonidal cyst, just the medical term for it … Great minds and all that …
Mike G.
August 31st, 2013 @ 10:54 pm

Hmmm, learn something everyday. I had one, so I know what a pain in the ass they can be. I guess you can call me a double asshole.
rmnixondeceased
August 31st, 2013 @ 11:03 pm

Your home mental midget?
rmnixondeceased
August 31st, 2013 @ 11:04 pm

Heh. Revisionism, the tool of the progressive left.
rmnixondeceased
August 31st, 2013 @ 11:07 pm

No actual information available, switch to blatant ad hominum in an effort to force your viewpoint down everyone’s throat.
Get lost loser, your bullshit doesn’t fly here.
rmnixondeceased
August 31st, 2013 @ 11:12 pm

Classic projection and victim-itis. Poor widdle Joey has his nose out of joint because we won’t bow down to the gay agenda. Poor victimized widdle Joey has an ow-ie on his pathetic sensibilities.
Go suck a dick Joey and don’t forget to gargle before you kiss mommy …
rmnixondeceased
August 31st, 2013 @ 11:15 pm

*crickets* from the pervert, of course …
ErikasPowerMinute
August 31st, 2013 @ 11:26 pm

Shouldn’t a person who graduated from law school know how to spell ‘principal?’
Fareedi al Laayla al Qakhaul
August 31st, 2013 @ 11:46 pm

That’s covered in Matthew 18:6…
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Bob Belvedere
September 1st, 2013 @ 12:28 am

Of course, fellow demi-god.
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September 1st, 2013 @ 3:36 am

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Alessandra
September 1st, 2013 @ 5:42 am

I went to check this ushmm site above (Holocaust museum), they even admit this: By June 1934, the SA, led by longtime Hitler friend and SA Chief of
Staff Ernst Röhm, had expanded to a force of nearly three million men.
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However, and this is no slight omission, there is no mention that Rohm was a rabid homosexual and homosexuality agenda promoter – and that Hitler was quite aware of it all. The claim that Hitler was hateful of homosexuals is a complete revisionist lie.

The brutal, grotesque Nazi that Hitler was closest to and most smitten with was Rohm.

Historians have written that the only man that ever addressed Hitler by the familiar and friendly “du” was Rohm. Everyone else had to address Hitler formally. That’s how close they were.

JoeD said: “Everyone knows that there were Nazi homosexuals”- this is certainly not the case. Because what most people don’t know is just how much Hitler was smitten with them, and how much violence and vile attitudes and behaviors they had, regarding Jews, the war, aside from sexuality.
Alessandra
September 1st, 2013 @ 5:52 am

As actual as the history they had in the Soviet Union!

From “your” site: During the era of the Holocaust, German authorities also targeted other groups because of their perceived “racial inferiority”: Roma (Gypsies), the disabled, and some of the Slavic peoples (Poles,
Russians, and others). Other groups were persecuted on political,
ideological, and behavioral grounds, among them Communists, Socialists, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and homosexuals.
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I did a quick search on this site for info on Nazi persecution of Christians and found nothing.

If so, this is a glaring omission because the estimated number of persecuted Christians is about the same as for estimated homosexuals.

Now given that many Nazi supporters were Christian, I can understand why Jews would be angry to this day. But why aren’t American Jews angry at homosexuals then?

For any institution with a public role in such an important subject of human interest, to omit the brutal persecution of Christians by the Nazis shows that liberals distort history to fit their narrative.

And that is shameful.
rmnixondeceased
September 1st, 2013 @ 6:10 am

Absolutely correct.
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Brother_Bob
September 1st, 2013 @ 8:01 am

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csham21
September 1st, 2013 @ 8:02 am

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RealityD
September 1st, 2013 @ 1:23 pm

Yeah, I notice the h8 trolls wither away when you ask them this question.
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rmnixondeceased
September 1st, 2013 @ 4:25 pm

Heh. I’ll make a note of it …
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September 1st, 2013 @ 11:01 pm

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ChrisDavis2011
September 2nd, 2013 @ 9:19 am

Hope this finds you my friend. I can’t speak to the content as I didn’t do any source research, but it certainly supports what you said:

http://constitutionalistnc.tripod.com/hitler-leftist/id2.html
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