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Crazy People Are Dangerous

Posted on | April 12, 2015 | 81 Comments

Deborah E. Frisch, Ph.D., is due in court Monday:

The former University of ­Oregon professor released from jail [March 30] after pleading guilty to making a false report against a Eugene police officer is again behind bars on similar charges.
Deborah Ellen Frisch, 53, is facing a charge of initiating a false report and a probation ­violation in the previous case.
According to court records, Frisch returned to her home on Modesto Drive on Monday after being held in the Lane County Jail for 39 days and within two hours of her release called the Eugene Police Department’s nonemergency line.
During that call, court records show, Frisch accused two police officers who served a search warrant on her home of having sexual relations in her bed and leaving behind bodily fluids and sexually transmitted diseases.
Frisch said in the recorded phone conversation that she wanted to document the event because she was afraid she would get a venereal disease, the document states.
She insisted an officer come to her home or she would call 911, according to the report.
Police said 11 minutes later, Frisch called 911 to make a similar report, asking that “someone document a crime scene by the pigs at the Eugene Police Department,” the document states.
She was arraigned on Friday.
Frisch, who has a doctorate in psychology, was arrested in February for three counts of stalking after police accused her of repeatedly harassing a city police officer, another city of Eugene employee, and the director of a local nonprofit agency. Those charges were dismissed eventually, but not before Frisch accused a female officer of sexually assaulting her. She entered an Alford plea to a charge of false reporting Monday and was sentenced to two years of probation.
She is required to undergo a mental health evaluation.
For several years between 1988 and 2001, Frisch taught at the UO psychology department. She then taught at the University of Arizona but resigned in 2006 after writing inflammatory online comments to a conservative blogger.

Oh, that Deb Frish! You remember this notorious moonbat who thought she could use the anonymity of the Internet to make obscene and perverse suggestions against Jeff Goldstein of Protein Wisdom:

Frisch, 44, said she quit her $32,861-a-year part time position not only because she fears for her safety, but because she regrets the [the University of Arizona] ended up in the middle of what was intended to be a “sick joke.” . . .
These people think I should be incarcerated, that I’m mentally ill or that I should be shot,” Frisch said during a telephone interview from Eugene, Ore., where she is living now. “This whole thing has been crazy to me. People have spent their whole weekend on this.” . . .
At first, Frisch said she was enjoying herself.
“I like to play with fire. I’m a left-wing Rush Limbaugh. I’m a writer and I like to fight with words. I’m a word warrior.”
Suddenly though, Frisch said, the conversation degenerated into disparaging personal remarks, many of a sexual nature. . . .
“I wrote something that would make him as queasy as they were making me feel,” Frisch said.

So she told the Arizona Daily Star in July 2006. Notice that Frisch tries to depict herself as a victim, employs the typical “It Was Just a Joke” defense, and suggests that this was just an Internet argument that got out of hand. That is to say, she engaged in rationalizations that were an effort to shift blame away from herself and evade responsibility.

DARVO — Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender:

DARVO refers to a reaction that perpetrators of wrong doing . . . may display in response to being held accountable for their behavior. The perpetrator or offender may Deny the behavior, Attack the individual doing the confronting, and Reverse the roles of Victim and Offender such that the perpetrator assumes the victim role and turns the true victim into an alleged offender. . . .

We have discussed DARVO syndrome before. It is most typical of sexual perverts, who make accusations of wrongdoing against others in an effort to discredit their accusers and elicit sympathy for themselves.

People engaged in DARVO are “abusive . . . indignant, self-righteous and manipulative,” they typically “threaten, bully and make a nightmare for anyone who holds them accountable or asks them to change their abusive behavior. This attack, intended to chill and terrify, typically includes threats of lawsuits.” You can click here to read about one of Deb Frisch’s lawsuits, in which she referred to lawyers as “shyster-vermin” and called a federal judge a “frocked cowf–ker.”

Could I explain the psychological causes of such behavior? Sure, but that’s not the relevant point. The point is that this type of personality and this kind of behavior is not unusual among Internet trolls. Remember what Deb Frisch wrote about Jeff Goldstein’s son:

I’d like to hear more about your “tyke” by the way. Girl? Boy? Toddler? Teen? Are you still married to the woman you ephed to give birth to the tyke?
Tell all, bro!

I reiterate: If some nutcase kidnapped your child tomorrow and did to her what was done to your fellow Coloradan, Jon-Benet Ramsey, I wouldn’t give a damn.

Somehow, Jeffy boy, I think you get off on the possibility of Frenching your pathetic progeny, even if it is a boy. You seem like a VERY, VERY sick mofo to me, bro.

You know, Jeff, I just don’t get it. You say, and I believe you, that a human female chose to procreate with you and you have produced a 2 year old progeny. . . .
So the poor bitch is dirt poor and that’s why she pretended you were worthy of procreating with?

Deborah E. Frisch, Ph.D., a professor of psychology wrote that.

This morning, I was trying to explain #AreYouBlocked to my wife. Why is it relevant that a campaign to “blackball” people in the videogame industry has been led by a person under psychiatric care?

In explaining the gravity of this problem to my wife, I mentioned Deb Frisch as an example of where the crazy people come from and what kind of things they do. Then, out of idle curiosity, I decided to Google Deb Frisch to refresh my memory on the specifics and found the Deb Frisch Timeline blog that has been updating readers on her madness for years:

October 14-18, 2010 — Repeating the activity which cost her a job in 2006, Deborah Frisch sexually menaces two young girls in Eugene Oregon. Frisch tries to hide from her crime by sending threatening emails to the victims’ father under a false name; when Frisch’s flimsy subterfuge is blown, she goes on a 72 hour blog/Facebook/email/telephone harassment frenzy.

There is a pattern here, you see: Deb Frisch makes lurid sexual accusations against others, and becomes unhinged when her wrongdoing is exposed.

“God gave them up unto vile affections . . . God gave them over to a reprobate mind . . .”
Romans 1:26-28 (KJV)

Beware of reprobate minds. Crazy people are dangerous.





 

Comments

81 Responses to “Crazy People Are Dangerous”

  1. Charles G. Hill
    April 12th, 2015 @ 12:07 pm

    “These people think I should be incarcerated, that I’m mentally ill or that I should be shot.”

    “Or” implies a choice.

  2. ChandlersGhost
    April 12th, 2015 @ 12:12 pm

    Forgot about ol’ Deb.

  3. Adobe_Walls
    April 12th, 2015 @ 12:13 pm

    Just another typical character on the left.
    Who pays for the mental evaluation and the inevitable treatment?

  4. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    April 12th, 2015 @ 12:19 pm

    Deb is a nasty bit of work and is both evil and insane. She is a poster child for where the left leads one.

    In general, I am not for giving government more power, but Oregonian Kesey was wrong about putting mentally ill people in hospitals. I am for treating them humanely, but there are a lot of people who need to be locked up and treated.

  5. robertstacymccain
    April 12th, 2015 @ 12:29 pm

    We need to get over our misguided sympathy for the seriously disturbed. We need to stop thinking of antisocial personalities as an oppressed minority and instead recognize them as a menace to society. To speak of “treatment” is to suggest that a therapeutic cure is always possible. Over and over, however, we see how this kind of madness — a chronic disturbance symptomatic of a defective personality — can never be cured. Yes, under the effects of powerful medication, the symptoms can be suppressed or controlled, but the underlying defect is permanent. The only real “treatment” is to lock them up and keep them locked up, to prevent them from harming others.

  6. McGehee
    April 12th, 2015 @ 12:50 pm

    We also need to restore the old exclusion of lunatics from the franchise. How different American politics might have been over the last 40 years!

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  8. robertstacymccain
    April 12th, 2015 @ 1:01 pm

    According to the CDC, more than 15% of females ages 18-39 take antidepressants. It would be interesting to see research into the voting patterns of such women.

  9. Jeanette Victoria
    April 12th, 2015 @ 1:26 pm

    Many years ago there was an anonymous Usenet stalker who called herself
    Curio Jones. She conducted an on-line harassment against those she
    believed were involved in the conspiracy, posting information about the
    individuals.
    Among those she targeted were Carol Hopkins, a school
    administrator who was part of a grand jury in San Diego, California that
    criticised social workers for removing children from their home without
    reason; Michael Aquino, an open member of the Temple of Set and a
    lieutenant colonel in the United States Army Reserve against whom
    accusations of SRA were made but dropped as the accusations proved to be
    impossible; and Elizabeth Loftus, a professor who studied memory who
    believed coercive questioning techniques by poorly-trained investigators
    led to young children making false allegations of child sexual abuse.
    She so terrorized Carol Hopkins that she left the country. A small
    group of us worked expose who she was. Turns out she was Diana Napolis
    MA, a child protection social worker for San Diego County. She was
    actively delusional she truly believed in ritual Satanic abuse and she
    was in charge of removing children from their familes.

    She got a
    lot of support on the Usenet from her fellow loons and true believers
    which was why she was so successful at terrorizing people. Ultimately
    she went over the deep end and tried too kill Jennifer Love-Hewitt who
    she accused of an satanic conspiracy and using mind controlling
    “cybertronic” technology to manipulate her body.

    She was
    committed to Patton Sate Hospital for the criminally insane. She is out
    now and still posting her delusions across the web fortunately not many
    pay attention to her any mo

  10. Adobe_Walls
    April 12th, 2015 @ 1:27 pm

    I’d wager it would be unsurprising.

  11. Adobe_Walls
    April 12th, 2015 @ 1:29 pm

    What was the justification for letting her out?

  12. Jeanette Victoria
    April 12th, 2015 @ 1:30 pm

    Well she has been out for a while and she no longer is dangerous. Just delusional.

  13. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    April 12th, 2015 @ 1:31 pm

    Some people can be treated (they are generally only menace to themselves), some may be permanently damaged but would not get as bad with “treatment”* (i.e., they might benefit in monitored outpatient and group home settings–which is also far less expensive than full commitment), some are down right evil or so deranged that there is no way to mitigate the danger they pose to others, and need to be locked up forever. There is a broad spectrum of mental illness.

    * a lot of treatment is just giving them drugs to help control anti social behavior.

  14. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    April 12th, 2015 @ 1:32 pm

    We do. Just like we pay for prisons.

    The secondary benefit is it would take a big bite out of the “homeless” problem…which is mostly a drug addition and mental illness problem.

  15. Jeanette Victoria
    April 12th, 2015 @ 1:39 pm

    At one time State Hospitals were like closed self sufficient little communities with a farm, a dairy and the patients has small jobs. There were also shelters jobs on site. The ACLU and liberalism have destroy the the state mental health system patients now have the right to live in the street and dumpster dive and normal people get to be terrorized by the delusional.

    The loons on social media want to lock up the sane who point out how crazy they are.

  16. Jeanette Victoria
    April 12th, 2015 @ 1:40 pm

    Really folks have things actually gotten better since woman got the vote?

  17. trangbang68
    April 12th, 2015 @ 1:52 pm

    In a battle of wits Jeff Goldstein would annihilate Debbie Dingaling. She is a walking advertisement for psychotic contagion, a malady where people who work with the insane catch it.

  18. Adobe_Walls
    April 12th, 2015 @ 1:52 pm

    She was dangerous because she was delusional. So her delusionalism has been reduced to an acceptable level? Or has her dangerousness been reduced to an acceptable level?

  19. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    April 12th, 2015 @ 1:58 pm

    Which is more humane, being left to flounder on the streets or being cared for in a monitored setting?

  20. Jeanette Victoria
    April 12th, 2015 @ 1:59 pm

    Well she was suppose too be on medication so I assume as a part of her probation she needs med checks. She hasn’t written on her blog for awhile https://diananapolis.wordpress.com/

  21. Jeanette Victoria
    April 12th, 2015 @ 2:01 pm

    When I was working on a forensic unit the older patents really missed milking the cows. Now they can spend all day watching cartoons.

  22. RosalindJ
    April 12th, 2015 @ 2:02 pm

    Crikey. That’s a name I didn’t expect to come crawling across my screen again. She has proven herself to be so unwell that I thought she had just gone to ground.

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  24. RosalindJ
    April 12th, 2015 @ 2:07 pm

    You are echoing a sentiment I wrote as a response to the Rand Paul is mean dust-up: “There have been more days in the last few years that I’ve turned over in
    my mind how things might be different if women just weren’t allowed to vote.
    Sorry, but for every smart, level, honest, non-agenda-ed functional woman I know, there are about 20 stupid ones who seem incapable of making it through the week without lying, playing victim for an undeserved advantage, stretching
    out some cock-eyed nuaaaannce(11) to prove a point that proves pointless
    and a time suck at the end of things, or just plain nastiness.

    And that’s just the clinically not-crazy ones ones. Kathy Shaidle hammers this theme on occasion.

  25. DeadMessenger
    April 12th, 2015 @ 2:18 pm

    I’m a smart, level, honest, non-agenda-ed, functional woman myself, and sadly, I must agree with you 100%.

    Unfortunately, the population of Real Men is fading away and being replaced by immature beta male (oh, who am I kidding – omega male) Pajama Boys who are no more functional than the women defined above.

    In essence, we are screwed.

  26. DeadMessenger
    April 12th, 2015 @ 2:23 pm

    And then relying on crazy people to actually take their meds.

    * I say this knowing full well that as an evangelical Christian, the majority would probably like to see me also locked up and the key thrown away, and that the only reason this hasn’t already happened is due to the usurious amount of tax dollars I (unwillingly) provide to the gubmint.

  27. DeadMessenger
    April 12th, 2015 @ 2:25 pm

    I’m going to say, depends on the definition of “care” and the nature of the “monitored setting”. These days, those terms could be used to describe an extended stay at Mengele Manors.

  28. Dianna Deeley
    April 12th, 2015 @ 2:28 pm

    I am convinced that if the Court doesn’t lock her up for a good long time, she’s going to get someone killed. Probably herself, but only because she’s so incredibly incompetent.

  29. Dianna Deeley
    April 12th, 2015 @ 2:29 pm

    It was supposed to be her, from the last plea deal. Now? I don’t know.

  30. Dianna Deeley
    April 12th, 2015 @ 2:31 pm

    She drinks heavily, too, which does not help. If she were sober for a while, she might be treatable. Might.

  31. Dianna Deeley
    April 12th, 2015 @ 2:37 pm

    He did. But he had to file suit to get her to stop harassing his wife and making obscene blog posts about his son. It was just awful, and it took forever.

  32. Dianna Deeley
    April 12th, 2015 @ 2:38 pm

    She was banned from the internet for five blessed years.

  33. RosalindJ
    April 12th, 2015 @ 2:48 pm

    Ah! I did not realize that – or I forgot. Was it a direct result of tangling with Jeff, or did she do something else (she’s a busy kind of person) that merited that condition?

  34. trangbang68
    April 12th, 2015 @ 3:04 pm

    I had forgotten how she threatened to rape Jeff’s baby. What a twisted evil pos.

  35. Dianna Deeley
    April 12th, 2015 @ 3:05 pm

    She decided that harassing court staff was a good hobby. There was a lot more, but I think that was a key element that got the court to take all the things she did seriously.

  36. RS
    April 12th, 2015 @ 3:06 pm

    She has mercifully confined her activities to Eugene, OR for the last several years. I hope this post–should she discover it–does not cause her to shift her gaze back to the Front Range of the Rockies. JG can speak for himself and doesn’t need me to run interference for him, but he doesn’t need any more drama at the moment.

  37. Jeanette Victoria
    April 12th, 2015 @ 3:08 pm

    I was fortunate my stalker/harasser the phony rev Sutter just upped and died but not before he got me arrested for a crime that didn’t even exist because some governmental bully believed the defamation on his smear-blog about me which that came directly from a family member. Of course I was exonerated but that information never get mentioned.

    Sadly the same lies are STILL being posted. Someone hated me so much that they save the crap on his blog after his family took them down and passed it to the homo-fascists. No matter that it is a lie. And just to show you how obsessed they are this will shortly be discussed on twitter and prolly tumbr

  38. Jeanette Victoria
    April 12th, 2015 @ 3:10 pm

    LOL I have a small cadre of cyber-harassers who REALLY want me locked up and on medication.

  39. K-Bob
    April 12th, 2015 @ 3:14 pm

    Must be like having an itch you just can’t scratch. I try to put myself in the point of view of people who behave like this when I run into them. You can’t tell at first they’re crazy. But when the reactions you get are so bizarre you can’t possibly understand why they do it, then you know. They have broken neurology.

    It’s why security people do not want their charges mingling with crowds or going up to strangers. All it takes is that one in one thousand.

  40. Adobe_Walls
    April 12th, 2015 @ 3:26 pm

    That in and of itself is disturbing.

  41. RosalindJ
    April 12th, 2015 @ 3:42 pm

    “You can’t tell at first they’re crazy.”
    If you develop a sense for them, a couple of seconds in a face-to-face does it. Unfortunately in that case, they’re already right there and you’ve wasted precious time while those alarm bells get a bit louder. Extending personal space a couple of feet will buy enough time to deal. Usually.

    I have never needed security (I have done the job for a brief time), but I really don’t care for crowds. A perfectly reasonable attitude in my mind.

  42. K-Bob
    April 12th, 2015 @ 3:55 pm

    Indeed.

  43. jakee308
    April 12th, 2015 @ 3:56 pm

    I think you’re wrong about that. They’re just hiding under a facade of boyish attitudes and let’s face it they’ve decided since they’re not going to play the game where they lose, they might as well play the other games where they can win and enjoy themselves.

    I’m less involved with women than at any other time in my life and it’s fantastic. No drama, no trauma, no threats, no put downs, no nagging, no complaints, no whining, no expense (except for me), no risks (of a certain sort).

    Old joke:
    Q. why do (did) men live 8 years less than women?

    A.They’re married to women.

    Alt: They’re trying to get away.

    Sorry ladies but you’ve become giant PIA’s (maybe always been?). And you’re no longer worth the trouble.

    congrats to any man who isn’t in a situation such as that but don’t think for one minute that’s pre- ordained and that it’s easy to make happen. it’s hard work, and it takes two trying to make it work.

    Mick Jagger had it right 40 years ago. “I’ll never be your beast of burden”.

  44. jakee308
    April 12th, 2015 @ 3:59 pm

    Let’s be honest now, some Mental Institutions made One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest look like a picnic.

    The State is/was always short of money and the hospitals were the last in line. Attendants were barely saner than the inmates. Abuse was rampant and no one was getting much humane treatment.

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  46. DeadMessenger
    April 12th, 2015 @ 4:50 pm

    It’s unbelieveable that those psychos won’t just let it go already.

  47. Jeanette Victoria
    April 12th, 2015 @ 5:03 pm

    Rent free they rubber neck here and twitter but you know I’m the one obsessed

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  49. Jeanette Victoria
    April 12th, 2015 @ 5:21 pm

    Actualy that wasn’t ture for MOST state hospitals. NOW they are just boring warehouses where the patients take their meds and watch cartoons.

  50. Jeanette Victoria
    April 12th, 2015 @ 5:22 pm

    The state hospitals are way better than the coummity homes a lot of these patients get sent too