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Sunshine State Spin

Posted on | September 13, 2011 | 13 Comments

Rick Santorum talks to the press after Monday’s debate.

No debate is complete without the post-debate spin, and here are a few photos and videos of the action in the “Spin Room” after last night’s debate at the Florida State Fairgrounds.

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, a “spinner” for Rick Perry, is swarmed by media.

Tea Party Express spokeswoman Amy Kramer talks to reporters.

Herman Cain talks to reporters.

They’ll let anyone in the spin room: Even Democrats like Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and Fox News correspondent Carl Cameron. It was weird seing Carl with a CNN-issued media credential hanging from his neck on a CNN lanyard.

OK, now here’s video of Rick Santorum’s entrance to the spin room. Notice how the reporter tries to work his own angle into the interview, which clearly irritates Santorum:

And here’s video of Herman Cain talking to the press about the same issue, Rick Perry’s Gardasil mandate:


13 Responses to “Sunshine State Spin”

  1. Garym
    September 13th, 2011 @ 2:33 pm

    Both Cain and Santorum gave excellent answers. This issue is about the mindset that government and not parents should have the only say in who gets this particular vaccination and who does not. Perry appoligized for his moment of weakness, but this mandate should have never been of his mindset to begin with.

  2. Anonymous
    September 13th, 2011 @ 3:05 pm

    Except that the parents did have a say. “Opt-out” = parents could stop. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

  3. Garym
    September 13th, 2011 @ 3:16 pm

    Should have been an opt- in to begin with.

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  5. Charles
    September 13th, 2011 @ 5:06 pm

    Democrats may well be able to beat Perry on the “Rick Perry thinks your social security check is unconstitutional” issue. They won’t beat him on trying to wipe out cervical cancer, even if his approach was wrong-headed.

    I think Rick Perry is leading in the polls only among those who aren’t paying very much attention yet. That could become self-fulfilling. Now if Perry is caught in a move that is clearly bone-headed not merely wrong-headed…

  6. Matt Lewis
    September 13th, 2011 @ 6:00 pm

    Maybe.  Ace has a post up about this issue (cue, OMG, Ace, what a RINO! replies).

    I’ve said before, I can sort of understand some minor objections on the grounds that mandates should have a high threshold for acceptability.  Or maybe on the high cost grounds (which was part of the reason it was made mandatory, so it would be covered by insurance, which, of course, causes its own problems, cost-wise).  But people are acting like this is the first time a state has ever required a kid to get a shot before going to school.  And it’s not even required.

    Also, for all of the nonsense about Republicans being “anti-science,” Bachmann is (knowingly or unknowingly) truly flirting with quackery by helping spread vaccine and autism rumors.

  7. Adjoran
    September 13th, 2011 @ 6:26 pm

    Insurance almost never covers “opt-in” vaccines because they are by definition voluntary.

  8. Adjoran
    September 13th, 2011 @ 6:33 pm

    Bachmann has joined the Vaccine Truthers and secured her place in the Nutball Row with Ron Paul.  Get the crazy lady off the stage now, and find someone sane to primary her so she can get the help she obviously needs.

    Claiming vaccinations lead to autism or retardation is spectacularly false, and those who do not have their kids vaccinated represent a threat to public health.

    For the Bachmann supporters, who are too busy drooling to do any research, HPV is not only tranmitted by sexual contact, nearly half the population will get it at some point during their lifetime, and the virus family it belongs to (against which the vaccine immunizes) causes the vast majority of cervical cancers.

    It is certainly a valid argument whether a state should go it alone in requiring a vaccine before there is a national consensus on it, and further whether such things are ever properly enforced by executive orders in lieu of legislative action, but that’s not what Bachmann is saying.

  9. Garym
    September 13th, 2011 @ 7:35 pm

    I agree with your point on Bachman, the anti-innoculation people strike again. My point is that this is a disease that is spread only by sexual contact and not airborn or normal contact. This is a personal discision between parents and thier daughters.
    P.S. If I had daughters I would encourage them to get the vaccine.

  10. Anonymous
    September 13th, 2011 @ 10:58 pm

    But of course, Perry didn’t “go it alone”; there were 20 other states (including Gov Palin’s Alaska while she was governor) that thought the vaccine was worth making available.

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  12. Garym
    September 14th, 2011 @ 12:59 am

    Yeah, but not by a mandate. Preston’s piece is BS, you should go read Malkin’s takedown of that lazily researched article. Keep reading to the end where NO money from Merck went into Palin’s coffers. Wish I could say that about certain candidate who shall not be vetted.

  13. Anonymous
    September 14th, 2011 @ 4:26 am

    My mom died when I was 5 years old of Pap virus does Michelle Baughman disapprove on moral grounds or free liberty.  I wish they would have had this for my mom when she was 10-12 yrs old.
     Does anyone understand how this virus is developed. and why giving it to young girls way before they are sexally active.  We as Moms cannot guarentee if our children WHEN THEY BECOME TEENS OR YOUNG ADULTS If they Will become sexally active.

     The reason I ask about Michelle’s reasons are because the virus is believed to be caused by Mulitsexual-partners. I would not be encourging my daughter for that lifestyle but I would want to protect her.

    So is this religious or ignorance