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Give Thanks to … Charles Johnson?

Posted on | November 27, 2011 | 89 Comments

The terminal stage of narcissistic personality order:

Happy Thanksgiving to all LGF readers.
On this day, I’d like to thank 2007 me, who woke up and realized that the “counter-jihad” bloggers were in truth a bunch of bigots and fascists. And I’d also like to thank the 2009 me, who realized that the Republican Party was dangerously off the rails, and publicly jumped off their runaway right wing train. . . .

Diary of Daedalus has more, for those readers whose reaction to such news is, “Oh, you mean Little Green Footballs is still online?”

If you didn’t discover the blogosphere until after 2007, of course, your reaction is probably, “Charles Who?”

He used to be somebody important, believe it or not.



89 Responses to “Give Thanks to … Charles Johnson?”

  1. Bunk X
    November 27th, 2011 @ 9:56 pm

    Goddess– He never changed in that regard, merely hid it:

    Charles     Wed, Jul 25, 2001 4:02:48pm

    I learned long ago that it’s pointless to argue against
    creationism. People who have trained themselves to ignore logic and science
    will not be convinced by logic and science.

    People used to believe the earth was flat, and that the
    entire universe revolved around us. Creationism springs from the same human
    egocentrism, and is thus impervious to logic.

    Creationism and spirituality are not the same thing at

  2. kansas
    November 27th, 2011 @ 9:58 pm

    Well that was clear as mud, Doctor.  You are a doctor aren’t you, having made a diagnosis.

  3. Liberal Fail
    November 27th, 2011 @ 10:01 pm

    Anamika’s behavior reminds me of the time Charles sent Killgore Trout over to Hotair to post racist comments in the middle of the night so he had proof that Hotair was a bunch of rabid little racists. Charles is like the Bill Maher of the blogosphere.  Everything he does is a scream for help.

  4. Stephen walker
    November 27th, 2011 @ 10:03 pm

    I known Meghan has a lot of air in her head, but is it really enough to fill all of the tires in the GOP???

  5. Anonymous
    November 27th, 2011 @ 10:04 pm

    You’re correct. I don’t live in Turkey, so I wouldn’t prescribe what they teach.

    Darwinism isn’t the declaration that “it’s caused by natural phenomena” anymore than the nucleotide sequence is “caused by physics.”

  6. Anonymous
    November 27th, 2011 @ 10:30 pm

    The way idolators of Science are always throwing out “flat earth” stuff — as if theism were as demonstrably false as that — shows how deeply they have been indoctrinated into their own mythos, a narrative arc of Progress and Enlightenment, so that all one has to do is to subscribe to their worldview and one becomes, by that very act of belief, intellectually superior to anyone who believes in God.

  7. Zimriel
    November 27th, 2011 @ 10:36 pm

    Charles Johnson was right then about that and he is *still* right about that. He never did “hide” his personal opposition to creationism. He just chose not to be di… um, JERKish about it… until he instituted the upding/downding system and discovered to what degree Conservatives believe in nonsense.

    To the extent that creationism is Christianity, that’s a problem with Christianity. I see from the comments here that not much has changed amongst Conservatives and Christians – you’re still a stubborn bunch of ignorant fatheads, at least on this topic, and I shudder to think on what other topics.

    Eventually non-creationists just get bored of arguing with you people and join the Left. As of 2008, that number was 52%. Wanna go for 60%?

  8. Anonymous
    November 27th, 2011 @ 10:57 pm

    I’ve never understood fanatical disbelief.

    It’s rather strange, really, than anyone should be so absolutely certain that the cosmos — himself included — is all the accidental result of randomness. From this certainty stems your ferocious hatred of the “ignorant fatheads” who are in some way skeptical of your own belief (or, rather, non-belief).

    As I say, it’s rather strange.

  9. Dave C
    November 27th, 2011 @ 11:13 pm

     This comment  is just more stalking behavior by someone who is actually
    quite ill, and doesn’t know it. I suppose most stalkers don’t know that
    they are ill, or they wouldn’t be stalkers. It’s sick, psychopathic
    behavior, and now followed by some long drawn out absurb justifications,
    which he probably believes are true.

    A person who is being
    stalked is wise to have nothing to do with the stalker. That just
    encourages them. They crave any type of contact even if it is negative.
    Yuck, yuck and double yuck!

    [See what I did there?]

  10. Jakobin
    November 27th, 2011 @ 11:22 pm

    I never read LGF until I encountered the small circle of bloggers who are obsessed with hating on it. It seems the people who read LGF the most faithfully are those who insist it means nothing to them.  
    The fact that Stacy still monitors LGF and blogs about it after all these years makes Charles look like Stacy’s Mr. Darcy. Stacy has “sworn to hate him for all eternity,” but the attraction is undeniable.

  11. Garym
    November 27th, 2011 @ 11:37 pm

    Given that Chuckles Johnson has trashed RSM as a white supremisist all over the intertubes, I would say you have that ass backwards. Why don’t you do a little more research before commenting.

  12. ThePaganTemple
    November 27th, 2011 @ 11:48 pm

    If you don’t believe in creationism, it doesn’t necessarily mean your existence or the cosmos is the “accidental result of randomness”.

  13. Liberal Fail
    November 27th, 2011 @ 11:48 pm

    Chuck used to be a decent source of info.  Many  of us were members “back in the day.”  Then he apparently had a stroke or something and turned radical liberal almost overnight and lashed out at all his former “friends.”  He absolutely cannot handle criticism or dissent.  LGF is an echo chamber.  He bans people from LGF with a fascist fury that would make Mao jealous.

  14. ThePaganTemple
    November 27th, 2011 @ 11:51 pm

    Its not that simple. Johnson is the one that attacked the conservative movement, not the other way around, just in case you hadn’t caught on.

  15. yestraday
    November 28th, 2011 @ 12:35 am

    You can have Theism and evolution at the same time.  Lots of people believe in God and don’t have a problem with evolution, (every Christian sect except Baptists, generally.)   

    If you mean a “creationist” is anybody who thinks God had a hand in the creation of the universe and everything living in it, via the mechanism of evolution, then these non-Baptists are creationists.

    But if by “creationist”  you mean anybody who thinks evolution didn’t happen, doesn’t happen, because humans poofed into existence fully formed in a magic puff of smoke 6500 years ago, then these non-Baptists are not creationists.

    When people declare they are one or the other and the definitions aren’t even the same to each party, it’s just useless crosstalk.

  16. Anonymous
    November 28th, 2011 @ 1:45 am

    So LGF is  a left leaning version of Redstate?

    Of course, I’ve never been all that aware of what happened to LGF.  I read it a few times and knew it to be a Conservative site.  I looked it up again after the Tea Party gained some momentum and was quite confused on what the heck was going on at the “new” LGF.  The back story is interesting…

  17. Bosun349
    November 28th, 2011 @ 6:46 am

    Nothing backwards there. It’s Stacy who’s still talking about Charles after all these years, not the other way around. For somebody who says nobody cares about LGF anymore, Stacy sure cares a lot about LGF.

  18. Bosun349
    November 28th, 2011 @ 7:05 am

    I certainly did notice that Stacy went after Charles for attacking conservatives long before Charles retaliated by taking up the white supremacist meme that others had started. Stacy started the beef between him and Charles, and Stacy is the one trying to keep it going. Garym should do some research before commenting.

  19. Chrales
    November 28th, 2011 @ 7:44 am

    You’re all banned!  Banned, I tell you!  Not only from my blog, but from all the intertubes!  Bwahahahahahaha!!!!

  20. Bob Belvedere
    November 28th, 2011 @ 8:36 am

    How can we miss him if he won’t go away.

  21. Bob Belvedere
    November 28th, 2011 @ 8:43 am

    I always suspected that you were a lesbian.

  22. Bob Belvedere
    November 28th, 2011 @ 8:44 am

    Perhaps the speedo was designed by Versace?

  23. ThePaganTemple
    November 28th, 2011 @ 8:45 am

    But you do agree that it was Charles who first attacked conservatives? Then you should agree that Stacy had every right to remark on that publicly, just like Johnson publicly attacked conservatives. This is a man who made a name for himself largely by appealing to conservatives, so when he turned on them, whatever his reasons, its kind of obvious that Stacy and others would remark on that, and yes attack him in kind. Whether Stacy is in fact now kicking a dead horse is a whole nuther issue. Johnson is a shell of his former self. Now the most interesting things he posts are old nineteen sixties Marvel comic book covers. It’s sad in a way, but he does still blog and he does still attack conservatives, to this day, so as long as he does that, he can expect to be kicked while he’s down.

  24. Bob Belvedere
    November 28th, 2011 @ 8:46 am

    And Anamika is weeping on King Tut’s shoulder.

  25. Bob Belvedere
    November 28th, 2011 @ 8:57 am

    That absolute certainty comes from their Leftist way of thinking.

    All Leftists believe that they have THE ANSWER, that they are The Illuminated Ones who have unlocked the door that leads to the room that contains The Secrets Of the Universe.  Such people have only contempt for those who believe in the transcendent – that there are things that will never be known, that, perhaps, there is a Divine Presence.

    The Enlightened Ones believe they have THE ANSWER because they have developed their theories in the sterile laboratories of their minds where there are no loose ends, where all can be logically known and, therefore, they come to believe that mystery only exists due to ignorance.

    One has to feel truly sorry for these people because such a materialistic world view ends in nothingness.  Thus, the reason all Leftists ultimately become Nihilists – hating themselves, all others, and life.

  26. Bob Belvedere
    November 28th, 2011 @ 9:00 am

    [head slap!] I thought ‘flemish menace’ has something to do with roving bands of crazed cheese-eaters hocking Louies.

  27. Garym
    November 28th, 2011 @ 9:11 am

    Sorry pal, Chucky still calls Stacy a supremacist in conservative bashing posts to this day.

  28. Anonymous
    November 28th, 2011 @ 9:15 am

    You could always read it from her entrails…

  29. Anonymous
    November 28th, 2011 @ 9:17 am

    This. Their country, their rules. My country, my rules.

  30. Anonymous
    November 28th, 2011 @ 9:21 am

    Chuckles? Is that you?

  31. ThePaganTemple
    November 28th, 2011 @ 9:38 am

    That’s not true of all of us, Bob.

  32. Anonymous
    November 28th, 2011 @ 10:34 am

    If she had guts, she wouldn’t be a Leftard.

  33. richard mcenroe
    November 28th, 2011 @ 10:47 am

    And it’s ‘Moorcock.’

  34. Garym
    November 28th, 2011 @ 11:01 am

    That goes without saying Bob.

  35. Quartermaster
    November 28th, 2011 @ 1:22 pm

    Creationism is the ides that God created everything we see around us, not just “had a hand in it.”

    The problem with using the term “evolution” is that it is generally used to conflate a fact with Darwinism which is nothing but philosophical speculation at best. Real evolution is seen by the fact we can engineer it – selective breeding is an example of this sort of thing. In the end, however, it leaves with no new species. A Dachsund and Great Dane are both Canis Familiaris. The nature we it in the form of natural selection, and it too finishes with the same species as when it started.

    Darwinism is simply philosophy masquerading as science, and has no root in science.

  36. Quartermaster
    November 28th, 2011 @ 1:23 pm

    Pagan, if you reject cration then all that is left are accidents from the chaos of the universe. That’s not science, but the rejection of it.

  37. ThePaganTemple
    November 28th, 2011 @ 2:05 pm

    -Think about what you’re saying. I could say the exact same thing you just did by changing the words just a little bit. For example-

    “If you reject creation then all that is left is limited to mankind’s imagination. Therefore, that would have to be accidents from the chaos of the universe because other than a creator we just can’t presently conceive of any other explanation.”

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  39. Rose
    November 30th, 2011 @ 2:04 am

    Kirly kept the list: – check out the list, AND the comments, where people tell what got them banned. Was so serious at the time, such a betrayal, now is somewhat comical, that the madman, who stalked his readers through the threads and around the blogosphere, was EVER held in high regard. 

    It was the commenters who made the blog. They brought insight, experience, on-the-ground knowledge, wit and wisdom to the threads. He brought random shotgun blasts, and pitted people against each other.