In the wake of the atheist sex scandal we reported Tuesday, someone in the “skeptic” community (as these soi-dissant rationalists refer to themselves) created a Tumblr blog called “More Will Be Named” that expanded the list of accused harassers beyond Skeptical Inquirer deputy editor Ben Radford. Before that Tumblr was deleted (for reasons unknown) former children’s TV host Bill Nye “The Science Guy” was among those named, as referenced in Tweets here, here and here.
Is there anything to such accusations? I have no idea, but if it seems wildly improbable that Nye could be suspected of such behavior, remember that no one outside the “skeptic” community (and relatively few insiders), had any reason to suspect Ben Radford before Karen Stoltznow went public with her account this week.
Now more women are coming forward to testify that the “hostile climate” for women in the atheist movement is not limited to the Radford situation. Atheist podcaster Stephanie Svan described a case involving Jim Frenkel, while Carrie Poppy describes her problems at the James Randi Educational Foundation (JREF), which hosted the conference where Stoltznow claims she was sexually assaulted by Radford.
The most interesting aspect of Carrie Poppy’s accusation is the finger she points at JREF President D.J. Grothe, whom she denounces for “constant duplicity, dishonesty, and manipulation.” See if you don’t notice something in this sentence:
I was assured on more than one occasion by James Randi that D.J. Grothe would be fired (I hear Randi denies this now, though he repeatedly promised it to another staff member as well, and that staff member and I represented the entirety of JREF full-time staff other than D.J. and his husband, Thomas), but after several months of waiting and being asked to wait, it became clear that D.J. was not going to be fired.
WHOA! D.J. Grothe is a gay man and an atheist and (according to Carrie Poppy) complicit in this kind of foul misogyny?
Damn, I’m gonna need more popcorn. Meanwhile, feminist maniac Amanda Marcotte has weighed in to say that the answer to this problem — you guessed, didn’t you? — is more feminism.
OK, forget the popcorn. One of you ladies fix me a sammich.
RT @smitty_one_each: TOM Bill Nye the Science Guy: Harasser? http://t.co/62XoQzO8jU #TCOT
Remember: if you are accused, you are guilty, according to the lovely Miss Marcotte.
She’s so cute when she gets mad.
RT @smitty_one_each: TOM Bill Nye the Science Guy: Harasser? http://t.co/62XoQzO8jU #TCOT
I like girl next door type chicks. After that article, what more is there to say?
RT @OhioCoastie: It’s almost like atheists expect no long-term consequences for bad behavior. Imagine that.
http://t.co/PKxzs2o7q1
Another Episode of As The Stomach Turns: Bill Nye the Science Guy: Harasser? Bring Popcorn! http://t.co/Bu9vqU249H
WHOA!: Bill Nye the Science Guy is a Sexual Harasser? http://t.co/XVyetdAQPW
RT @thejenn999: Another Episode of As The Stomach Turns: Bill Nye the Science Guy: Harasser? Bring Popcorn! http://t.co/Bu9vqU249H
RT @rsmccain: Bill Nye the Science Guy: Harasser? http://t.co/WodVc82Dwb | @voxday @gatewaypundit @TheAnchoress
Reminds me of the joke:
Q: What’s a good comeback for when my boyfriend tells me to fix him a sandwich?
A: I don’t know, but you better come back with a gotdam sammich.
RT @thejenn999: Another Episode of As The Stomach Turns: Bill Nye the Science Guy: Harasser? Bring Popcorn! http://t.co/Bu9vqU249H
RT @thejenn999: Another Episode of As The Stomach Turns: Bill Nye the Science Guy: Harasser? Bring Popcorn! http://t.co/Bu9vqU249H
RT @TheMadHessian: WHOA!: Bill Nye the Science Guy is a Sexual Harasser? http://t.co/XVyetdAQPW
You reminded me i’m only a few weeks away from watching another school year’s worth of awful Bill Nye videos 😉 http://t.co/Yxl1Z924R4
@SallyStrange Written up here -> http://t.co/WodVc82Dwb
RT @Gunservatively: You reminded me i’m only a few weeks away from watching another school year’s worth of awful Bill Nye videos 😉 http://…
RT @preciseBlogs: Bill Nye the #Science Guy: Harasser http://t.co/3qWJ4j3iA0 #news #conservative #feminism #senate #religion #sex
RT @preciseBlogs: Bill Nye the #Science Guy: Harasser http://t.co/3qWJ4j3iA0 #news #conservative #feminism #senate #religion #sex
RT @TheMadHessian: WHOA!: Bill Nye the Science Guy is a Sexual Harasser? http://t.co/XVyetdAQPW
RT @PubliusNV: Bill Nye the Science Guy: Harasser? http://t.co/gG2ZIvMCRk
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Wait. Didn’t the visiting trolls establish yesterday that since there is no ultimate moral compass in atheism, atheists therefore cannot be guilty of theistically-defined offenses like sexual harassment, infanticide, sodomy, genocide, etc?
The phrase “hockey stick graph” now a double entendre? http://t.co/WodVc82Dwb @rdbrewer4 @AceofSpadesHQ @DrewMTips @ComradeArthur
RT @rsmccain: The phrase “hockey stick graph” now a double entendre? http://t.co/WodVc82Dwb @rdbrewer4 @AceofSpadesHQ @DrewMTips @ComradeAr…
Random clumps of cells, carbon-based coincidences, the result of impersonal cosmic forces without meaning or purpose.
The progressive Utopia defined.
“The progressive Utopia defined.” — rmnixondeceased http://t.co/XIBHlEyC6K
Heh. You are guilty without even being accused, just because … FEMINISM and you have a penis and stuff …
RT @rsmccain: Hey, @DaTechGuyblog if these guys were #Catholic, it might be a REAL scandal! http://t.co/WodVc82Dwb #tcot
“Heh. You are guilty without even being accused, just because … FEMINISM and you have a penis…” — rmnixondeceased http://t.co/rsToeeyMqs
Make that a hero sammich, extra chipotle dressing!
“Make that a hero sammich, extra chipotle dressing!” — rmnixondeceased http://t.co/Ar2k6Mpq27
RT @rsmccain: The phrase “hockey stick graph” now a double entendre? http://t.co/WodVc82Dwb @rdbrewer4 @AceofSpadesHQ @DrewMTips @ComradeAr…
RT @RMNixonDeceased: “Heh. You are guilty without even being accused, just because … FEMINISM and you have a penis…” — rmnixondeceased ht…
@RMNixonDeceased Isn’t it sad to see these amoral nihilists betraying their non-existent ideals? http://t.co/WodVc82Dwb
My usual expression of Schaedenfreude is “Where’s my Psalter?” “But Thou O Lord art righteous, and have cut the cords of those that oppressed me.” “I was set about by evil men, but the Lord has tangled them in their own snares.” Of course, one must mot leave out, “The fool has said in his heart,’there is no God.’ “I’d quote more, but I left my glasses at home and the print in my Bible at work is too small.
RT @rsmccain: The phrase “hockey stick graph” now a double entendre? http://t.co/WodVc82Dwb @rdbrewer4 @AceofSpadesHQ @DrewMTips @ComradeAr…
RT @rsmccain: Bill Nye the Science Guy: Harasser? http://t.co/WodVc82Dwb | @Bio_Logos @StephenChanges @CarriePoppyYES #skeptic
Are there any female atheist philosophers? I bet they’d have some real horror stories.
RT @rsmccain: @RMNixonDeceased Isn’t it sad to see these amoral nihilists betraying their non-existent ideals? http://t.co/WodVc82Dwb
It’s so Old Testament: Atheists reject God; now afflicted with frogs, locusts, @AmandaMarcotte, rivers of blood … http://t.co/WodVc82Dwb
RT @CHideout: Bill Nye the Science Guy: Harasser?: In the wake of the atheist sex scandal we reported Tuesday, someone in th… http://t.co…
RT @CHideout: Bill Nye the Science Guy: Harasser?: In the wake of the atheist sex scandal we reported Tuesday, someone in th… http://t.co…
First the Science Fiction Writers of America, now the organized atheists (“a herd of independent thinkers!”).
Where, oh where will it end?!
Bill Nye the Science Guy: Harasser? http://t.co/AmIqQSGhiH
If there is a problem within the skeptic community as per @rsmccain post http://t.co/QrKupgGh2U let me tell you better to nip it in the bud
More cowbell (feminism). Bill Nye the Science Guy: Harasser? http://t.co/JpoAJPkNJ8 via @RSMcCain @AmandaMarcotte
See now, you tell me to make you a sammich and I say, No, make your own dumb sammich. Problem solved.
What I don’t get is how so many “feminists” seem to save it all up for later. What’s up with that?
I can see, a little bit, how being in a place where everyone is all over rejecting religious based morality that a whole lot of people might think that others would be open to suggestions of a personal nature, after all, it’s the religious sorts that hate sexuality. Right? There also may be a great deal of self-selection involved in caring so much about your identity as an atheist and skeptic that you join an organization about it. Who does that? People looking for a “safe” place do that. But is it “safe” for women who get all fainty if they have to tell someone “no sammich for you!” or is it “safe” for men who like to think of an environment without the superstitious insistence on sex being a sin?
I call them random collagenic incidents.