Disapprove of Gay Sex With Teenagers? ‘In That Case Just Shut Your Mouth’

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Neutral Objective Journalism:

A columnist for the Huffington Post site says it is homophobic to criticize gay men who use Internet sex sites to meet teenage partners and only “bigots” are offended by such “nurturing intergenerational bonds.”
Publicity about a relationship between 39-year-old Hollywood screenwriter Dustin Lance Black and 19-year-old British diving champion Tom Daley has inspired criticism even from some gay rights activists.
Joshua Epstein, a blogger who identifies himself as a gay progressive Democrat, reacted to the Black-Daley affair on Twitter: “He could be his father. Yuk.” That reaction was condemned by Huffington Post columnist Michelangelo Signorile, who said only “internalized homophobia” could cause gays to criticize such relationships.
“There is an undercurrent in these comments — the ‘chicken hawk’ charge — that suggests that gay men are more likely to sexually abuse underage teens, the ugliest lie about gay men out there,” Signorile wrote Friday in Huffington Post’s “Gay Voices” section. “Hardcore homophobes are predictably pointing to Black and Daley as supposed proof. But many gay men too, so defensive about the charge and deathly fearful of how it’s used, overcompensate by saying ‘yuk.'”
Signorile specifically defended sites that promote “intergenerational” gay sex. “Some younger people are attracted to older people, and vice versa,” he wrote. “There’s even a gay website called Daddyhunt. The famed novelist Armistead Maupin’s 27-years-younger husband, Christopher Turner, founded it. The met on another one of Turner’s sites, HotOlderMale.com. If that’s not your thing, it’s totally cool, but in that case just shut your mouth.” . . .

Read the whole thing at The American Spectator.

 

433 comments

  1. LGBTs just want to do harm and violence in society with impunity. Criticism to how deformed and dysfunctional they are gets labeled “homophobia” – as if that implied a bad kind of unacceptance.

    No matter how thin they slice it, LGBTs are deformed and perverted. The more social acceptance they get,
    the more they eagerly push for the acceptance of increasingly harmful attitudes and behaviors. They simply want the freedom to be sexuality pigs without criticism. “Homophobia” is what normal and healthy people feel towards perverts. Nothing more, nothing less.

    On the upside, they are helping expose that the claim “it’s fine as long as it’s consensual” is a fraud.

  2. Healthy people do not think or accept homosexuality as normal. Once you start thinking that “homophobia” is a valid concept, you’ve already lost your moral and health compass.

  4. Who is sexually exploiting many of the homeless homosexual and bisexual youth? Older homosexual and bisexual junk of people – the LGBT community themselves.

  8. Did I miss something? Since when is a 19 year old considered “underaged?”

    No, I didn’t read the article and have no intention of doing so.

    I am 100% behind the laws against sex between adults and children under the age of consent. But once someone is of legal age, their choices of partners – good, bad, or unclear – are none of society’s business anymore (assuming no laws are being broken in the process).

    Minding other people’s business
    Seems to be high-toned
    But I got all that I can do
    Just to mind my own
    Why don’t you mind your own business?
    Mind your own business
    ’cause if you mind your business
    Then you won’t be mindin’ mine.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~ Hank Williams

  9. I personally believe sodomy laws should never have been taken off the books. Such was done more or less in good faith because the homosexuals’ originally implied promise was, “You let us screw whoever we want without legal penalty and we’ll keep it behind the bedroom (or bathhouse) door. Live and let live.” But they never kept that promise, nor did they intend to. Now they want other people’s children and have already demonstrated a willingness to use government coercion to get them. Now there’s no stopping it. Just my opinion.

  10. It’s not so much that their arguments are weak, though they are. It’s that they’re deliberately inconsistent in applying them. There’s long been a word for it: hypocrisy.

  11. Attitudes and behaviors are what form or destroy society. Therefore, sexuality and relationships are always everybody’s business, no matter what the age. The more people run away from thinking about sexuality issues, the more of a violent, dysfunctional sexuality jungle we have.
    Laws hardly begin to cover all the kinds of attitudes and behaviors that are perverted, destructive, or harmful. And laws are very often not even enforced.

    The people breaking the laws, by the way, develop a criminal mind because usually no one bothers to pay attention to them, and are cowardly “minding their own business.”
    “Minding your own business” means nothing more than being negligent, cowardly, and passively consenting (or actively endorsing) destructive behavior.

  13. A nineteen year old woman or man is not a child. To act as such isn’t just wrong. It’s insanity.

    To claim that the relationship between a nineteen year old man or woman and another adult is in any way similar of the sexual abuse of a child by a monster isn’t just wrong. It’s insanity. Period.

  14. Two adults having a relationship together, even it if it is clearly morally wrong (such as a person leaving his wife for a younger woman in a way that traumatizes their kids like many Republican and Democratic politicians have done), is nothing like sexual abuse of a child.

    To pretend as if the two are similar is false. Period.

  15. Concern trolling about age disparity in romantic relationships when both partners are adults and there’s nothing morally wrong happening is 100% wrong when left-wing feminists do it as well as when right-wing big government social conservatives do it.

  17. If you want to run away from acknowledging that adults are capable of and do harm to adults, then that’s your cowardice problem.
    To pretend as if there were only one kind of harm in society, relating exclusively to children, is false. Period.
    There are perverts, criminals, and gargabe of people who have relationships with adults.
    Deal.

  18. I don’t agree that the masses are such healthy people – given how many millions of people have problems of adultery, promiscuity, porn, STDs, homosexuality, etc.
    What the masses think reflects their indoctrination by liberals – low information, absolute ignorance in psychology, irresponsibility, etc.
    The first thing anyone learns from reading history is that being right is not determined by popularity.
    You can easily condition a majority of the people to be grotesque and ignorant, and it’s what we see in many liberal societies today.

  19. Meanwhile:

    Judge rules wedding cake shop must serve gays, despite owner’s religious beliefs

    http://www.examiner.com/article/judge-rules-wedding-cake-shop-must-serve-gays-despite-owner-s-religious-beliefs

    Either social conservatives fight back or this garbage of LGBTs will destroy every single fundamental right and freedom we have: freedom of conscience, religion, and speech.
    And liberals systematically discriminate against social conservatives who do not bow down to their deformed ideas about sexuality, especially in academia. No law to
    protect decent people in society.

  20. Iniquity is as contagious as it is varied, and its effects on a society are gradual and cumulative. A minority knows this has always been true but most won’t see it until it’s too late to do anything about it. Then there are the few who love it and want to accelerate the rot.

  21. You speak in generalities that have nothing whatsoever to do with the topic.

    What is the link between an adult woman and an adult man having relations and an adult man that’s a child molester hurting a victim?

    How is it not pretentious nonsense to pretend as if the 19-year-old woman is somehow the same as a toddler or baby?

  22. A 19-year-old adult woman having relations with a 29 or 39 year old adult man is not harmful and evil.

    To accept this objective reality does not make me a “coward”. It makes me someone that accepts reality and does not live in a fantasy world.

    A 19 year old is not a baby or toddler, and your sophistry will not change this reality.

  24. The masses may be wrong.

    But you must have the honestly to admit that you are taking the minority, anti-normal, anti-majority position.

    I respect people with different views, but people that are dishonest do not deserve respect.

  25. Do you have one single shred of evidence to prove your assertion that a 19-year-old adult woman having relations with a 29 or 39 year old adult man is evil and wrong like child molestation?

    Any one single tiny bit of evidence at all?

  28. Why are you pro gigantic nanny state government with huge budgets and massive regulations when it comes to that government taking actions against gay people living their private lives, but you flip flop 100% shamelessly when it coems to the reverse?

    Must everything that isn’t banned get made mandatory?

    Must everything that isn’t made mandatory get banned?

    What about living in a world without a nanny state government with huge budgets and massive regulations where private companies are allowed to help and serve gay people or not to help and serve them?

    Why is freedom such a bad thing?

    I don’t get social conservatives at all. You’re a mirror image of the far left Marxist gay crowd. You’re almost exactly the same.

  31. You’re using a slippery slope fallacy that ‘younger person’ => ‘baby’ that is meaningless.

    Honestly, you sound to me an exactly clone of the nanny state liberals that claim that a child using a lazer gun toy video game is somehow the same as a future school shooter due to the slight similarity of the action.

    You also remind me of extreme anti-war nuts that say that arresting someone and not giving them a lawyer for thirty minutes to read them their rights is the same as Nazi torture.

    The slippery slope moral argument is left-wing nonsense. Period. That some social conservatives that are mirror image far leftists use it doesn’t make it any less nonsense.

  33. How are you not almost exactly the same as a doctrine-following leftist here?

    Since you want big government under our sheets, in our wallets, and in our cars, how is that really different than the left wanting big government in our gun cabinets etc?

  36. “Yuk,” huh? Personally, I find the notion of a 39 year old queer homosexual copulating with a 19 year old queer homosexual to be not particularly yuckier than two 39 year old queers homosexuals doing the same thing, but I wouldn’t make it illegal even if I could.

    One wonders what Mr Epstein’s reaction would have been had this same relationship commenced three years ago.

    But this reveals something about the attitude of the #FreeKaters: they seemed to think that it was perfectly fine for a 14 year old to consent to sex with an 18 year old adult, but most would have been adamant about the prosecution had the lovely Miss Hunt been 38 instead if 18. The act of consent on the part of the younger person would be no different were the person with whom she consented to have coitus 18 or 38, male or female, so it’s only the “yuck” factor which discriminates between the underaged person’s choices.

  38. Tammy Bruce went down that road in one of her books, describing the immoral “ick” factor of the pierced, tatooed, ultra-kink (italics her words, IIRC) lesbian crowd.

  40. There’s an old poem I’ve mislaid and cannot find on the net. The main point of it was something to the effect of if you encounter a wall, it’s wisest to ponder why your predecessors built it, instead of rashly climbing over it or demolishing it.

  41. The evocation here bugs me so much.

    An adults attraction to another adult is very different from the #FREEKATE attitude that children are fair game for the leering eyes of older people.

  42. A 19-year-old adult woman having relations with a 29 or 39 year old adult man is not harmful and evil.
    ================
    Given that what makes a relationship perverted are the attitudes and behaviors that people have, you can certainly have any couple of adults who have a perverted, harmful, or evil relationship. They can be the same age, or different ages. The more disparity in the ages, the more likely that there are serious ethical problems with the relationship.

    Your claim that no adult relationship is perverted, exploitative, or lacking in quality is just sheer cowardice and ignorance.

    Your stupid claim that the only problem in relationships refer to children is false. Period. Repeating your stupid claim doesn’t make it any less stupid.

  43. Of course, the deployment of the nonsensical word “homophobia,” in discussing reactions to this relationship is absurd, inasmuch as people have had the same reactions to “May-December” romances for ages. I’m aware of one such relationship which raised eyebrows–recently discharged Navy Lt. Cmdr. back from the Pacific post WWII and the 18 year old high school graduate. Her parents were adamantly opposed, but ultimately came around. It worked out rather well actually. Thirty plus years of marriage until his death two decades ago. The widow who was still young at the time of his death never remarried, because, “there will be no one else like him.”

    True enough. I miss my father greatly.

  44. I personally believe sodomy laws should never have been taken off the
    books. Such was done more or less in good faith because the homosexuals’
    originally implied promise was, “You let us screw whoever we want
    without legal penalty and we’ll keep it behind the bedroom (or
    bathhouse) door. Live and let live.” But they never kept that promise,
    nor did they intend to.

    =================
    Me too. I mean, it’s not something I was following so much when it happened, but the more homosexuals reveal how warped and slimy they are, how much they harass others and play the victim, how much violence they do in society and cover up, how perverted and disgusting they are, how they promote every kind of destructive attitude and behavior related to sexuality, the more I think it was a mistake. It’s just a way to empower garbage of people to do harm with impunity.

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