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‘Camp Epic’: Gay California Teacher Molested Boys as Young as 11

Posted on | March 16, 2014 | 129 Comments

“Allegedly”it’s important always to add “allegedly”:

Even as he allegedly abused the middle-school age children left in his care, even as he purportedly lied to parents about field trips throughout the Bay Area, court documents show that Ronald Guinto articulated a strict code to his campers: “What happens at Camp Epic stays at Camp Epic.”
What allegedly happened on the off-campus, overnight camping trips was repeated sexual abuse of 11-and 12-year old boys, the documents say. . . .
Authorities say Guinto recruited his victims while he was teaching at Making Waves Academy, a charter school in Richmond near Hilltop Mall, to join Camp Epic, an organization he founded in 2009 as part of his Master’s degree program in urban education. Nineteen students have been identified as participating in Camp Epic, which has no affiliation with the charter school . . . investigation into Guinto began on Oct. 29, when an administrator at Making Waves called Richmond police to report Guinto had been placed on administrative leave for an inappropriate Facebook conversation with an 11-year-old student, according to a probable cause statement by lead investigator Detective Walton Nelson.
Within weeks, investigators uncovered Guinto had taken students on trips to Mount Diablo State Park, San Jose, Yosemite, and Napa, engaging in sex acts with students inside tents beginning in December 2012 and ending as recently as Oct. 26, three days before police were notified, according to documents. On that outing, the parents of one of the boys said they thought their son and other students were camping overnight at Mare Island, but Guinto instead took them [to] a Motel 6 in Vallejo, Nelson wrote. Guinto allegedly slept in the same bed as two boys.
One 12-year-old boy told an investigator that his alleged abuse began in December 2012, when he was sleeping in a tent with Guinto and another student. Guinto allegedly asked the boy if he could fondle him, the first of about 30 such incidents spread over about 10 campouts, according to documents.
At a camping trip in Napa Skyline in 2013, the boy said, Guinto woke him up in the middle of the night to show him a video titled “Teacher Porn,” and then performed oral sex on him. . . .

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129 Responses to “‘Camp Epic’: Gay California Teacher Molested Boys as Young as 11”

  1. Jeanette Victoria
    March 16th, 2014 @ 6:00 pm

    Pretty much proves my point about the mental gymnastics.

  2. Zohydro
    March 16th, 2014 @ 6:12 pm

    The troop is always looking for volunteers… I went geocaching with the little hooligans once and that was enough for me! As much as I know I should man up for the overnighters, the troop’s “no drinking after lights-out” rule is a deal breaker…

  3. Anamika
    March 16th, 2014 @ 6:18 pm

    Abusers abuse those they have access to. A high number of boys are molested, not because molesters are disproportionately gay or bisexual, but because men typically have more access to boys than to girls.

  4. Dana
    March 16th, 2014 @ 6:28 pm

    The case of Jerry Sandusky is instructive. Mr Sandusky is married to a woman, and has been for decades. If you asked him, he would say, unhesitantly, that he is heterosexual. Yet he was tried and convicted for molesting a bunch of children, all of whom were male. The learned psychologists would say, why he isn’t homosexual, because he married a woman, and said that he was heterosexual, but to anyone with any common sense at all, it’s clear that his sexual attraction was toward boys and not girls. (There were no reports at all about Mr Sandusky ever having behaved inappropriately to a girl.)

    Mr Sandusky was accused of molesting eight different boys. There were other stories, but I’ll stick with the eight. If the sex of his victims did not matter to Mr Sandusky, meaning that there was a 50/50 chance that any one victim would be a girl, the chances that all eight victims would be male are 0.39%, or one chance out of 256.

  5. Dana
    March 16th, 2014 @ 6:49 pm

    Really? Are there that many more boys than girls on the planet?

    Of course, the obvious response to your claim is the John Jay Report, which has the most solid numbers. Catholic priests are all male, so we can exclude any female-on-female abuse right away. Church attendance is, unfortunately, skewed female, as too many fathers do not attend. Among children, it’s pretty much even, since the attending parents take their children rather than leaving it up to the children to decide. The Church officially allowed the use of girls as altar servers in 1992, but it had been a fairly common practice in the United States since 1980. Catechism classes have always had girls. Priests have had just as much access to young girls as boys for decades!

    And yet, the Jay report found that 81% of the victims were male. Furthermore, only 22.6% of the victims were 10 years of age or younger; the vast majority were with children entering puberty or older. There is no reasonable way to conclude anything other than that the sex of the victim was important to the offending priests, and that the vast majority of the offenders were looking for victims who were beginning sexual maturity.

  6. Dana
    March 16th, 2014 @ 7:11 pm

    Getting further into the Jay report, we find out that “Male victims tended to be older than female victims.” That would indicate that the hebephile priests were more concerned with the sex of their victims than were the pedophiles.

    Table 3.5.4 indicates that for victims aged 1 through 7, there were actually more female victims, 58.3% to 41.7%. These were the true children. Aged 8 through 10, it starts skewing heavily toward male victims, with boys the victims 71.4% of the time. Nevertheless, we’re still talking about a relatively small percentage of the known victims.

    But once the ages of the victims gets to 11 and above, when the victims are entering puberty, they become overwhelmingly male, 85.4% of the time in the 11 to 14 age range, and 85.2% in the 15-17 age range.

  7. Anamika
    March 16th, 2014 @ 7:14 pm

    There’s no reason to think that he specifically chose male victims over
    female victims or that he wouldn’t prey on females if the opportunity
    presented itself. It just so happens that the children he had access to
    were male.

    Pedophilia kind of supercedes the normal perception of
    sexual orientation. While there are studies that show that sex
    offenders who prey on young boys are sexually attracted to adult women
    more often than adult men, most don’t have a typical gay/straight
    orientation. They’re just attracted to children.

  8. Anamika
    March 16th, 2014 @ 7:26 pm

    A John Jay Report finding that might surprise you [from WashPost]: “The researchers found no statistical evidence that gay priests were more likely than straight priests to abuse minors—a finding that
    undermines a favorite talking point of many conservative Catholics. The disproportionate number of adolescent male victims was about opportunity, not preference or pathology, the report states.

    “What’smore, researchers note that the rise in the number of gay priests from the late 1970s onward actually corresponded with “a decreased incidence of abuse—not an increased incidence of abuse.”

  9. Dana
    March 16th, 2014 @ 7:34 pm

    What part of 256 to 1 do you find so difficult to understand?

    The charity which Mr Sandusky founded, Second Mile, which he eventually used to groom his victims, was for both male and female underprivileged children.

    Mr Sandusky was a well-respected football coach and a pillar of the community in State College; he had plenty of opportunities to groom female victims, yet never did, or at least there were no reports at all that he tried.

    Nor was Mr Sandusky a pedophile, in that he did not seem to be attracted to pre-pubescent children; he would more accurately be describe as a hebephile, someone attracted to pubescent children, children whose sexual maturation was beginning.

    You are attempting to use the oh-so-politically-correct argument that pedophiles cannot be classified as heterosexual or homosexual in orientation when it comes to children, but it’s clear that they do take such distinctions in selecting their victims, especially as the victims hit puberty.

    You are, in effect, arguing subjective definitions, while I am using hard numbers, an objective measurement. That should tell you something.

  10. daleyrocks
    March 16th, 2014 @ 7:35 pm

    He’s a pro-pedo gay psychologist, but I’m sure his research is completely unbiased.

  11. Dana
    March 16th, 2014 @ 7:39 pm

    And it surprises you that a priest accused of molesting young boys would state that he is heterosexual?

    I really don’t care what orientation the accused priests say they are; I am looking at the hard numbers of what they actually did and who their victims were.

  12. Dana
    March 16th, 2014 @ 7:44 pm

    And I’d like to address your opening paragraph:

    There’s no reason to think that he specifically chose male victims over female victims or that he wouldn’t prey on females if the opportunity presented itself. It just so happens that the children he had access to were male.

    There’s no reason, no reason at all? The fact that all of his known or even alleged victims were male constitutes no reason at all to think he wasn’t specifically attracted to young males as opposed to just young people? Anamika, that statement of yours makes absolutely no sense.

  13. Anamika
    March 16th, 2014 @ 7:44 pm

    “Nor was Mr Sandusky a pedophile, in that he did not seem to be attracted
    to pre-pubescent children; he would more accurately be describe as a
    hebephile, someone attracted to pubescent children, children whose
    sexual maturation was beginning.”

    Not true. Sandusky known victims’ ages: 11, 10, 12, 12, 7, 7, 7, 11 (others unknown)

  14. cmdr358
    March 16th, 2014 @ 7:48 pm

    On some level your are definitely enjoying it.
    You are enjoying your sense of moral superiority or enjoying correcting to unenlightened or enjoying trolling conservative blogs.
    On some level you are enjoying it.
    Does enjoyment = fun or are you going to pick your way around that one as well?

  15. mackykam
    March 16th, 2014 @ 8:21 pm

    Joke with inherent truth. That said, you are awfully well versed in all these named for different sexual permutations. And I thought hebephilia was a love of Jews, LOL. I thought you recognized me in an instant.

    March 16th, 2014 @ 8:22 pm

    There’s not any “sensitivity” here, Anamika. it’s your “logic” that’s wrong. A lousy, slap dash “argument” is never a pretty thing.

    Not to mention, you’re now grasping at straws, even while you are still losing the argument.

  17. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    March 16th, 2014 @ 8:34 pm

    Percentage wise, however, gays are more inclined to molest (certainly gay males).

  18. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    March 16th, 2014 @ 8:37 pm

    There is a kernel of truth in your BS Anamika (sort of like a piece of corn in a poop). Child molesters, pedophiles, are often just that–attracted to children regardless of gender. They are not gay or straight (necessarily) because they are focused on children.

    Pederasts, however, usually go with the gender they are sexually oriented to.

  19. Bozikek
    March 16th, 2014 @ 9:27 pm

    Steal my bit will you! I denounce you!

  20. Bozikek
    March 16th, 2014 @ 9:32 pm

    The guy who screws young boys claims to be hetrosexual. I guess that clinches it as homosexuals only visit their sick partners in hospitals and never have sex with children.

  21. Bozikek
    March 16th, 2014 @ 9:44 pm
  22. concern00
    March 17th, 2014 @ 2:55 am

    So glad you corrected your earlier (minor) spelling error. To a liberal the argument would have ended there.

  23. concern00
    March 17th, 2014 @ 3:12 am

    Are you trying to provoke our ‘friend’ with this?

  24. concern00
    March 17th, 2014 @ 3:14 am

    Please don’t forget Harvey Milk, Lance Black and oh pretty much every other homosexual around. They have a thing for young men, sorry boys.

  25. concern00
    March 17th, 2014 @ 3:16 am

    Covers ears. Yells ‘strawman strawman strawman.’

  26. Art Deco
    March 17th, 2014 @ 1:09 pm

    Looks like the sorosphere has sent us another troll, making an innumerate argument.

    These people are always weirdly persistent.

  27. chicagorefugee
    March 17th, 2014 @ 9:15 pm

    Please explain the original meaning and derivation of the slang term “chickenhawk” and its connection with gay culture.

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