by Smitty
“Yuhv. Got. Ta. Buh. Leeve!“:
“We want to clear up the huge amounts of confusion around how climate change is influencing the weather, in both directions. For example, the typhoon in the Philippines that dominated the UN climate change talks in Warsaw last November and that many people put down to climate change – it turned out it had no detectable evidence. And the same goes for Hurricane Sandy,” Dr Friederike Otto, of Oxford University’s Environmental Change Institute, told The Independent.
I mean, what if they threw a Fear Party on the climate, and everyone just laughed?
Is it OK if I just don’t understand the argument. The idea of “climate” is derived from the weather. Climate is the cart, weather is the horse. The information used to arrive at terms like “tropical” at the climate level undergoes a one-way process when you summarize it, right? The cart can’t drag the horse, and if you’re trying to contend that climate influences weather, isn’t that the Ecological Fallacy?
That’s a sweet fallacy. It’s such a commonplace one in politics and advertising. These climate change weenies are the boys who cried “flow” (wolf spelled backward).
Standard disclaimer: caring about resources and the environment is a basic rational, conservative attitude. And we need to respond with laughter at all irrational appeals, not just ones from the Anthropogenic Global Climate Warming Change Disruption Chaos NextFocusGroupTermGoesHere industry.
Maybe the Church of Global Warming should hire Seinfeld:
From what I saw, the whole “climate is not weather” thing began when people pointed out that the global warming models did not predict what the weather actually was.
That was 15 or 17 years ago, depending on which “official” version of the models you want to use.
Right, but this is the first time I’ve seen them brash enough to try to say that there is a direct influence between climate and weather.
I have observed that the inverse is true : ie weather influencing climate change, via Urban Heat Island effect
Two mirco examples: Marcus Island (no rain) and the eastern suburbs of Bangkok (more rain, extra rice crops)
However, where does El-Nino fit into this concept?
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I never got Seinfeld’s humor. Occasionally I smiled at something he said. But maybe it was just gas.