“I don’t want a baby. . . . Nothing will make me want a baby. . . .
“This is why, if my birth control fails, I am totally having an abortion.”
— Amanda Marcotte, January 2014
“No woman should be authorized to stay at home to raise her children. Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice, precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one.”
— Simone de Beauvoir, 1975
“We identify the agents of our oppression as men. . . . All men have oppressed women.”
— Redstockings, 1969
Okay, so the implication is that there’s something wrong with being married to a rich, powerful man? And there’s also something wrong with “intensive mothering,” which apparently means being intensively involved in your child’s upbringing? . . .
[I]f this is slavery — being married to a rich/powerful husband, being able to stay at home with one’s children, and having time to get involved with charitable causes — I think a lot of women would willingly sign up.
Only a hardcore feminist would think such a life is odd enough to pen an anthropological essay about it in the New York Times.
Ah, Professor, but in the elite media, “only a hardcore feminist” is ever allowed to write anything about women’s lives.
The goal of the Feminist-Industrial Complex is to indoctrinate all college students in feminism’s anti-male/anti-heterosexual ideology, and this New York Times article is about trying to figure out how these women managed to resist. Too many Disney movies, maybe?
“The radical feminist argument is that men have forced women into heterosexuality in order to exploit them . . .”
— Celia Kitzinger, The Social Construction of Lesbianism (1987)
Heterosexuality is oppression. Motherhood is slavery.
‘Could It Be Any More Obvious?’
You forgot sex, and drugs. I’d say those things trump lightbulbs, and insurance plans.
Absurd. The child should have been aborted to spare it a life as a mentally disadvantaged person who can’t really live. It’s an act of compassion. I would never bring a child into the world with birth defects, or handicaps. It’s not fair.
You truly do not understand the motivations of progressives, and projecting your own.
When their answer to every problem (including imaginary ones) is always “more government and less freedom,” the rational observer is eventually forced to conclude that those are not just means for progressives, but ends in themselves.
I brought my daughter into the world, knowing that she would be born with a heart defect.
She had surgery to partially correct it. She will need another procedure, eventually. It may be by catheter or it may be through open heart surgery. It depends on how old she is when it is time to do it.
Until then, she runs around like a maniac (even with one totally nonfunctional heart valve), and is the cutest preschooler you’ll ever see. She’s teaching herself basic math at 5. I couldn’t do that at that age.
Yep, it cost a lot of money to fix her and it will cost even more to finish the job. Yet you would probably still prefer that I had the abortion I was pressured to have when I was 20 weeks along, wouldn’t you? Or is she the one that you would oh-so-graciously spare?
Trolls such a “Jones” are always invoking “compassion” as a motivator when it comes to those who engage in destruction. Isn’t it strange that their ostensible compassion is absent when it comes to that which is being destroyed.
Bless you and your child!
Things to do? Places to dine? I need advice!
The compassion is for the child who you would bring into this world against its will, and damaged. Life on this planet is hopeless, and dark enough, so there is no need to inflict more of that on someone with a broken body, or mind.
Yes, I would have pressured you to have an abortion. You could have always had another child who wouldn’t need heart surgeries and a possible lifetime full of health problems.
That its outside the state is not the reason people want to see frats, and sororities banished. It’s the type of person who joins fraternities and sororities that we want to see banished.
Absolutely, because obviously she should have exercised her choice and not had that child (according to horrific feminists, that is).
Why don’t you tell that to a Down’s Syndrome adult sometime? Tell him he should never have been born and see what he says.
Ah, I see. You know what the child’s will is. And your infinite wisdom allows you to determine who lives or dies; whose lives are valuable and whose are not.
Because you are compassionate. As I said, compassion is way to attempt to salve your conscience when you’re consigning human beings to waste bins.
Wombatice, veni foras!
My conscience is just fine because compassion is actually what it is. Sparing someone such a cruel fate is the greatest gift you could ever give them. They’re lucky to have never been born.
Ok, will do!
Actually, no, I probably could not have had another child. I was 42 when I delivered her. There are certain limitations to reproduction and pregnancy that women can’t ignore.
I guess you don’t know much about heart defects if you think that kids born with them are all invalids. Most are not, just like my daughter. 1 out 100 kids are born with one. You probably know one or two people with heart defects, Jones, and don’t even know it. They’re leading perfectly normal, everyday lives.
I mean, have you heard of Shaun White? He won Olympic gold in snowboarding, twice. He was born with the same heart defect my daughter has.
I guess his mother should have aborted him, too, since he also wasn’t “perfect” as a baby?
Thank you! She is a blessing, although sometimes her big brother thinks of her as the bane of his existence. 😉
And there we have the crux of the matter.
You see this world as a prison. I see it as a wonderland, and am amazed every day that I get to see one more beautiful thing, whether it is a butterfly, a sunrise, or a little kid running free on the beach.
I only hope that you someday have the gift of seeing some of the miracles around you, Jones. You’re missing out on one hell of a show and don’t even realize it.
irrelevant.
what does that have to do with bringing damaged, handicapped people into the world?
I understand. I had some assclowns look through my comment history before as well. Although, Twitter is just awful. I leave that to the famous/well known people. Twitter can be a very good benefit to us but at the same time it is just a giant eye sore and reading some tweets just sucks out all of the hope you had for society.
Not irrelevant.
Go look up “projection” in a psych textbook, Jones. Then tell us once again why you think that anyone who is not “perfect” is better off dead.
Around E Main St and S Grande Ave is all the action in Pullman.
It’ll take you 15 minutes to see everything there is to see.
There are a few nice sit-down restaurants because parents come into town for Apple Cup (Cougars vs. U of W).
It’s been 15 years since I was there, and I can see some things have changed.
If you want shopping, you’ll have to go to Moscow.
Things to do: Rico’s tavern is where I used to play lots of pool @ corner of Main & Grande. Basilio’s is upscale food 100 yards E on Main.
Uh…that’s about it. They sometimes had concerts at the arena on campus…saw ZZ top there.
Not a projection, and I never used the word “perfect”. Being born with severe birth defects or mental retardation severely impacts not only your own quality of life, but also the quality of life of your unfortunate caregivers who you have now burdened.
Sorry, I loathe jocks, and the women who love them.
It’s unfortunate that discriminating against people because of how they look is still socially acceptable even though its just as bad as racism, and hurting someone over something they can do nothing about. Conservative men, who are also racists, seem to do it the most.
You really need to learn more about what modern medicine can do. There are severe defects that can be corrected or ameliorated, just like my daughter’s was shortly after her birth.
Yet you still would prefer that she had never been born, even though her quality of life is equal to that of her classmates, and someone with her exact same condition has excelled in physical competition?
Why does the mere existence of a disabled person, especially one who is loved and cared for, offend you so much if it ISN’T projection?
Im not talking about a heart defect that can be corrected with a few surgeries and will allow you to live a normal life. Im talking about severe birth defects that destroy your quality of life and cant be corrected. I have a cousin debilitated by MS, and trust me, he’d rather be dead, and has said so repeatedly. I only wish Texas had laws like Oregon so he could accomplish that goal. I have also seen what his condition has done to his wife. It’s not worth it, either.
Oh, so it’s good to cull the herd of the nonproductive, is it?
Margaret Sanger, call your office.
And then after birth it’s still dependent. SO at what point is it safe from disposal? Graduation for college?
What need have I of understanding motives when the results speak for themselves? Dispossession, slavery, and mass graves.
One hundred million dead at Communism’s altar in the 20th century. Oh, but they meant well. No harm, no foul then.
Oh, wait… massive harm.
Ah, ,so finally we see the motive of progressives. Hatred, just as we suspected.
No, I just thought that was one way for conservatives to rationalize it, and since you already see the poor and non productive as vermin anyway it shouldn’t be much of a stretch.
after birth another woman could choose to care for it. No such possibility while it’s still in utero. I thought conservatives were supposed to be smart with all their engineering and math degrees? I guess you’re really just utilitarians after all and giving you higher social status because of it is a real regression.
Yes all liberals are actually communists. Derp! Again, I thought conservatives were supposed to be intelligent?
For some things. Just like you have hatreds for some things and are motivated by them. Not saying all progressives share my personal hates and are motivated by them either.
Stay on topic. Don’t do the usual lefty “I’m losing this so I’ll bring up something else and argue that instead” gambit.
The original topic was about a child born with severe birth defects, and how you think they are better off not being born….because let’s face it, you think your life sucks anyway, so everyone else must think the same thing.
Unless, of course, your cousin was born with MS, and has complained about it from the moment he could talk. Otherwise, it’s irrelevant.
Actually, the only ones I”ve ever heard use the “abortion saves the taxpayer money” argument are liberals.
Conservatives come up with other ways. You’d know that if you were paying attention.
Now you’re just personally attacking me and by doing so shows you have no argument. It’s typical of peoe like you to assume that because I see living with a disability as nightmarish it stems from some personal issue. That’s just dumb, and your own defense mechanism My point in bringing up my cousin is that living with severe disabilities is a nightmare for the person with them and those closest to him. No difference if you were born with them or not except that if you were born with them your mother had an the option of not bringing you into the world to suffer.
No, I never heard that and our reasoning has always been that if the mother has no ability to care for a child due to financial reasons or otherwise she should have the option of abortion. And since you guys have a long history of equating poor people and those on welfare as parasites I figure it would be easy for you to go along with abortion.
So, you can make crass comments like “Will do!” in regards to telling a person with Down Syndrome that it would have been better that they never had been born, tell me that I could have had another child if I aborted my daughter without knowing one thing about me, and make blanket comments about how people who bring defective children into the world don’t care about suffering….and that’s ok.
But telling you that you are not staying on topic is unacceptable and rude?
Good to know.
Yep, liberals don’t say that. Ever.
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/07/01/2239101/abortion-contraception-budget/
But you do equate poor people and welfare recipients with leeches so
it’s surprising you’re not ok with abortion. Ironic, too, since if you forced a woman to birth you’d whine and call her a parasite for possibly needing federal subsidies to help
with childcare.
Mmmm-hmmmm…
Interesting…
Sure I do, which is why one of my besties has been off and on welfare for the past nine years (she’s a single mother. You know, one of those women who, in your world, made the wrong choice.)
Maybe if your hero could actually run a country competently, she would be able to hold a steady job and not be so dependent on government largesse.
Assuming that you are not being facetious, it appears that you haven’t read everything before you wrote: there were — as far as I know — no signs that her son would be mentally disadvantaged until after he had already been born, probably well after he had been born.
And, of course, if it is your belief that the “mentally disadvantaged” should simply be terminated, regardless of how long it has been since they were born, well that would at least solve the problem of our society having liberals.
Against his will? One would think that, if life as a handicapped person is just so much against the handicapped person’s will, suicide rates among the handicapped would be sky high . . . but they aren’t.
I’d guess that every one of us has said, at some point in his life, “I’d rather be dead than be a paraplegic,” or have some other handicap, because that’s really easy to say when it doesn’t entail actually killing yourself. Yet, other than a spike the first year after injury — a spike which still never reaches 1% — the handicapped do not commit suicide at significantly different rates than do healthy people.
So I guess you really resent your parents for letting you be born, huh?
Care to back up that turd you just dumped in the punchbowl, or should we just ignore you outright?
The only responsible time to have an abortion is if the pregnancy is threatening the life of the mother.
Period.