The Left is having a tantrum over remarks that Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore made at a Baptist church Sunday:
Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore told a church crowd on Sunday that the U.S. Supreme Court “destroyed the institution of God” by legalizing same-sex marriage.
Moore, who made national news when he ordered the state’s probate judges to withhold same-sex marriage license in violation of a federal judge’s decision, addressed a congregation of about 150 people at Magnolia Springs Baptist Church in Theodore.
“How do they come out now and say that marriage, which is ordained by God, doesn’t mean what it’s always meant, between a man and woman?” Moore said. “Not between two men, two women, or three women and one man.
“See, they don’t have a definition. They’ve just destroyed the institution of God. Despite what they think, it’s not their doing. Satan drives us. He’s out there destroying everything God created including us as human beings.” . . .
“The issue is not about same-sex marriage. It’s about a sexual revolution. It’s about having people decide whether they are male or female. You’re talking about overturning God’s natural order …. When you start teaching kids that they have the right to choose whether they are male or female. . . .
“What we’ve been taught is somehow Christianity is bad for our country. And that government can’t have anything to do with Christianity . . .”
You can read the whole thing. You will notice that when the Left mocks Justice Moore or other conservative Christians for saying such things, they almost never bother to say what exactly is wrong with believing the Bible. Nor does the Left find it necessary to prove what is wrong or harmful in understanding that our nation’s laws were founded in Christian moral belief. The Left believes in Equality with a capital “e” and Progress with a capital “p.” To the Left, it is sufficient condemnation of tradition to say that tradition belongs to the past; the past is always bad, because Progress has rendered it obsolete, the leftist must believe. And the Left furthermore holds to a dogmatic belief that Progress requires a forced march toward Equality, so that overturning tradition — or, as Justice Moore would say, destroying “the institution of God” — is always good, because this will help inaugurate the egalitarian Utopia.
The problem is that, for all the “success” of the devotees of Equality and Progress, it does not seem to me — nor to most other Americans — that our nation is actually being improved by the destruction of our Christian tradition. We keep being marched toward Utopia, but we have not yet arrived there, and many Americans are becoming suspicious that we are actually heading toward a destination that proverbially awaits those who travel a road paved with good intentions. By more than a 2-to-1 margin, Americans say we are headed in the wrong direction, and isn’t it possible that Justice Moore may be correct in his understanding of how we got ourselves onto this Highway to Hell?
“Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools . . .”
The ancient Canaanites did not worship Ba'al with more devotion than the 21st-century liberal worships Equality.
— Robert Stacy McCain (@rsmccain) July 14, 2015
Declaring war against God, the Left also wages a War Against Human Nature, and Justice Moore’s comments about “teaching kids that they have the right to choose whether they are male or female” echoes points I make in Sex Trouble:
University faculty devoted to the study of “Gender Theory” reject the categories of masculinity and femininity. What most people understand as the natural traits and normal roles of the sexes are, according to the proponents of Gender Theory, an elaborate deception into which we have been brainwashed by the anti-female, anti-gay social system called heteronormative patriarchy. (page 15)
What has happened in the past four decades is that feminism has waged a war on human nature, and has striven (with remarkable success) to replace our normal understanding of Right and Wrong with a new system of values: Women, good; men, evil. (page 17)
Whenever we hear feminists condemn “patriarchy,” we understand that what they have in mind is not some kind of humanitarian democratic reform project. . . . Four decades have not changed the ideology of feminism as Andrea Dworkin described it in 1974: The family must be destroyed, along with normal sex roles — no more masculine men, no more feminine women. Feminism is “a planetary movement to restructure community forms and human consciousness,” as Dworkin said. (page 73)
"Everything that exists must be destroyed in order for this feminist revolution to succeed." — SEX TROUBLE, p. 73 http://t.co/0k3yb05rVO
— Robert Stacy McCain (@rsmccain) July 14, 2015
When we understand this project as essentially destructive, we are entitled to ask what the radicals propose to build upon the bloody wreckage of our society and culture once they finish destroying it. Perhaps they will build a Temple of Ba’al.
Accept a fairy tale? I read Harry Potter a couple of years ago, that was enough for me
Why can’t this forum have more than one view?
“The ancient Canaanites did not worship Ba’al with more devotion than the 21st-century liberal worships Equality.”
Nor did the ancient Canaanites feed their children to Moloch with more devotion than post-Christians feed theirs to Venus.
No you won’t, because no you aren’t.
You’re a liar.
Yes, the Rule of Law is currently dead; and an appeal to it currently amounts to nothing more than cooperation with its murderers.
“…. since a good many of the Founding Fathers were deists, others were Freemasons and so on, but I’d guess they all read Locke. And Socrates. Which is not to say that they didn’t have a background in Christianity. Probably everyone in those days did, by definition, given the roots of the American populace.”
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The “Founding Fathers” are not just the few famous (or, in the case of Jefferson, imfamous) men who were leaders in the Revolution and/or Framing of the Constitution. The “Founding Fathers” are *all* the People who were Americans at the Ratification of the Constitution.
Hello to you too.
Actually I am.
In related news, AoSHQ is reporting that the 10th circuit ruled against the Little Sisters of the Poor, who will now be forced to comply with Obamacare’s contraception mandate.
IMO, they should tell the court to go fuck itself (but probably with nicer language…they’re nuns).
I’m telling you, it’s gonna come down to civil disobedience, and much sooner than most realize.
But truth is a construct, maaaaaan.
Are you stroking ypur gun?
I’ve asked the questions three times now: Who’s talking about enshrining religion? Who’s talking about imposing religion?
Note the sociopathic tendencies:
He brings up “our forefathers,” thinking that will have some emotional resonance. It’s obvious however that he has no reverence for them beyond their use as a bludgeon. You could scan his previous comments and find zero mention of the constitution, I’m sure.
The faux patriotism is used because that’s what he imagines conservatives talk like.
This is no more accurate a portrayal than Bruce Jenner’s idea of what makes a woman.
Who’s talking about enshrining religion?
I’ve seen plenty of irreligious intolerance.
Another troll who’s taken to stalking me. I must admit, I’m flattered though not surprised. I do PWN losers like Funkylicious on a regular basis.
They’re drawn to my power.
Your question is nonsense.
Japan is one of the most irreligious societies on the face of the planet and they don’t have homosexual marriage.
“I would never couch my opposition in such religious terms.”
I wouldn’t either, but then again, why not? Arguments for changing marriage are supposedly based on moral values. If secularists and libertarian pagans promote their moral values, why can’t Christians promote theirs?
In any argument–rhetorical definition of “argument”–one needs to avoid appealing to authorities which the other side does not accept. I can argue against Leftist proposals without mentioning God once. The problem is, if the Leftist/Progressive knows one is Christian, their argument immediately veers into an ad hominem attack about “imposing your religion on me” followed by a dive onto the fainting couch.
As I point out below, there are commenters on this thread who appear for these discussions and immediately use that tactic to avoid dealing with the substance of the issue.
No one. Asserting same is a means of derailing the discussion, however.
Crikey Matt, I think he’s got a crush on you.
I mean, f*ck all, he even keeps track of your stats.
Maybe Wombat will swing the ban hammer on this one.
Differing points of view arenone thing, troll stalking’a another.
Natural law is written on Man’s heart. God put it there.
Dude- looks like you’re dropping 48 messages a day on Matt
That turned out to be a hoax, last time out, and is shaping up to be a hoax yet again.
I get what you’re saying. But I think it’s time to stop letting people play the “you’re imposing your religion on me” card. It’s bogus and its intellectually lazy. Heterosexuality and the reality of human biological reproduction predate Christianity. Consequently, heterosexuality is a big f*cking deal and everyone knows it — all people in all societies in all of history. Heterosexual couples build the future of humanity. Homosexuality is a sideshow at best.
Atheists, secularists and pagan libertarians want to impose their contrived moral values on the rest of society while hiding behind some idiotic notion of moral neutrality.
So what if they believe that they have come up with universal moral values that everyone else should be forced to accept? So what if they think that moral values informed by religion are an abomination? Guess what–they’re bigots and they’re wrong.
Which is why secular moral values are on thin ice.
I’m glad you’re actually writing something now instead of responding with copy and paste responses.
It doesn’t bother me at all, and I know the rest of you will dogpile their bullshit when they come here. I just feel bad for RSM; I feel like I tracked mud in his house.
“PWN” HAHAH! Oh my god! It’s really not cool to say “pawned” or “pwned” anymore. Maybe 4-5 years ago.
I really wish opposition to the normalisation of homosexuality, etc. and gay marriage hadn’t become virtually synonymous with Christianity… I just don’t see how appeals to Biblical authority (as sincere as they may be) have really helped and, dare I say, without sounding like a concern troll, that this approach has actually been counterproductive?
Time to call them out.
That’s a valid point. I just feel like you come to Jesus in your own time. Before you’re ready, it feels forced. In the meantime, I think there are many quality secular arguments to be made that do not detract from the religious reasons. But they tend to be more convincing to secular people.
There’s been 2-3 guys tops who have said anything, Matty. Such a huge dogpile!
“Soccer is a game invented by European Women ”
Omg you’re so toughhhhhhhhhhhh. Rah Rah Rah! What a joke! Another fake military member on the internet.
Ahhhhhhhh it would still take me 1010 days to reach his level but thanks soldier!
“I just feel like you come to Jesus in your own time”
Did Jesus come to you Matt? When did that happen? Did it happen before or after the 51,427 messages?
Where’s Wombat-socho?
Personally, I tell people like funky to eat sh!t and call it lunch, but that’s just me.
So when did your boyfriend stick it up your ass last?
Obviously you have never served. Take a flying fu@k at a rolling doughnut asswipe.
By looking at your avatar, we can see that you always pick the loser.
Wonderful response, Mike. You seem like a completely mature and well adjusted adult!
Take a flying fu@k at a rolling doughnut – Can you explain that one to me?
Ahhhhhhh? Ok?
We don’t want godlessness forced on us.
Spend some time here…..
http://www.wallbuilders.com
you will know.
If the American people hate God so much that they consider anything a bad policy merely because it is a Christian policy, we’re doomed anyway.
Oh but it does. Read our Founders.
What’s it to ya?