Well, we expected this, didn’t we? Thirty Republican senators, led by Mitch McConnell, voted to debate this dishonest monstrosity.
In order to disprove a Democrat lie — that Republicans are “anti-immigrant” and hate Latinos — McConnell will trample underfoot the rule of law and surrender U.S. sovereignty by supporting an amnesty that he and his gutless colleagues will insist is not actually an amnesty.
We need to deport these criminals. Republican senators, I mean.
RT @smitty_one_each: TOM Republican Senators Sell Out, Vote for Cloture on ‘Gang of 8’ Amnesty Bill http://t.co/o28mHMI4Xz #TCOT
RT @smitty_one_each: TOM Republican Senators Sell Out, Vote for Cloture on ‘Gang of 8’ Amnesty Bill http://t.co/o28mHMI4Xz #TCOT
Yesterday’s vote wasn’t a cloture vote, right Stacy? It was a vote to open debate. The key vote will be the cloture vote, the vote to close off debate, which requires a 60 vote majority. Still, mine is a quibble. My Republican Senator, Burr, will get no more votes from me if he votes for cloture. Who needs a Republican Senator who would vote for this POS?
I am with Ted Cruz, legitimate immigration reform is fine. This Orwellian named monstrosity is definitely not legitimate.
Spread the alarm like Paul Revere. The only thing stopping this is the fear that incumbents will not be reelected if they support it.
Why stop with deporting the Republicans? The Democrats are criminals as well.
I want to know who is “advising” these republicans. It wouldn’t surprise me if it was revealed the advisers and the pollsters working for the republicans were actually progressive plants. Not trying to sound like Alex Jones, but this is a complete, and total disconnect from the base of the party. Republicans have a ton of ammo with all these scandals, and they choose to capitulate on immigration, completely destroying all the momentum.
Marco Rubio ruined his chances to ever be elected to higher office over this issue. Who is whispering in Marco’s ear?
RT @smitty_one_each: TOM Republican Senators Sell Out, Vote for Cloture on ‘Gang of 8’ Amnesty Bill http://t.co/o28mHMI4Xz #TCOT
OK. I’m confused. Isn’t it good to debate anything that Congress is considering? It seems to me that voting to debate something isn’t even close to voting to pass it. How are we ever going to know just how bad it is if they don’t debate it? I’m sincere about being confused. Please explain.
There’s no debate that will occur. There will be grandstanding, and sound bites. It is a foregone conclusion, just like Ted Cruz said.
How will we ever know that if they don’t discuss it in open debate? It sounds like you just said,” It won’t matter anyway, so why discuss it?”. That isn’t the most freedom inspiring message to send.
Reform my foot. It is AMNESTY pure and simple – dressed up in a thousand pages of trash that nobody reads. NO COMPROMISE. No amendments – just vote it down again and every time it rears its ugly head. Run those jerks out of town. Hound them out of office. Expose who is funding them. We all know what it means –
a) we pay for their benefits
b) we lose every election henceforth
c) we pay their college “education”
d) we pay they medical bills
e) they bring in all their relatives
do you know how to spell cultural suicide, economic suicide, political suicide ????
Wake up indeed! Chucky Schumer smiling is a very bad sign. This Craprehensive Immigration Reform (aka Amnesty) is neither moral or pragmatic.
Alas, that’s the way congresscritters act. “The power behind the throne” is who wants this. They know it will destroy the US, and the US is all that stands between the world order they desire, which is destruction, and our currently limited freedom.
Sometimes Jones is right. Even paranoids have real enemies.
Mickey kaus is correct here. We need to set aside the Obamanation scandals for a bit and concentrate on saving the US from Little Chuckie Shumer.
Never mind. If I can’t get an answer to an honest question, it isn’t worth discussing.
Open debate? Like when the democrats rejected every amendment offered by republicans on this bill? Seriously? What debate do you want them to have? The amnesty portion, or the complete lack of border security? Oh, that’s right…. all the republican amendments were rejected that would’ve made this anyone other than what it really is : a voter’s registration drive for democrats.
Being deliberately obtuse might work for low information democrat voters- it doesn’t work here.
NOT ONE RED CENT
It’s political ju jitsu.
If Republicans just block the start of debate, Obama gets to campaign against us as obstructionists and we gain nothing in particular for 2014. If debate opens, we get to introduce amendments, which also means Democrats up for reelection next year will have to go on the record repeatedly.
As Hale Bopp notes, this was NOT a cloture vote.
Hey dickhead. I asked questions and I wasn’t obtuse. Sounds to me like you just want everyone to do things your way. If you want to question my integrity, I live in Lansing, Kansas, just south of Ft. Leavenworth. I look forward to talking face to face.
[…] Marco Rubio went to The Crossroads and made his deal with The Devil. […]
So the BOOT LICKERS in the republican leadership are SELLING US OUT. again. Well, enough is enough. What is this crap about “earned legalization”.
I want a list of all their advisors and whoever is programming them – we need an explanation, an APOLOGY and for them to resign.
Do you know who I just heard on the radio – Frances Fox Piven. You know – the Cloward-Piven commie. These clowns want to “destroy the system”. So, do Boehner and Paul Ryan have to join in ? Are they that blind ? Levin has a great monolog right now – gonna download the audio. This immigration crap is Cloward-Piven on steroids.
This immigration crapload should go right into the TRASH, where it belongs. I am sick and tired of hearing that AD on the radio with Rubio. Sick and tired of being lied to. These clowns must be in fear of somebody – are they really scared of a bunch of ‘Democratic Socialists of America” ??? What kind of chicken crap is that ?
Marco Rubio went to The Crossroads and made a deal with The Devil [who, interestingly enough, looks a lot like Chuck Schumer – go figure].
Cut to 2016: Marco is standing by The Road To The White House, singing: ‘Standin’ at the crossroad, I tried to flag a ride / Didn’t nobody seem to know me, everybody pass me by…’
Time to acknowledge we already live in a one-party country with a solidly Democrat unelected bureaucracy and an “opposition” GOP in DC only interested in accommodating the Dems for their own benefit.
And the last one of these brilliant ju jitsu moves that actually worked was…
You were given an honest answer. The reality is there is no open debate. I realize that bursting your bubble may present some difficulty for you, but teh world is the way it is. The GOP leadership has been wheeling and dealing for the US Chamber of Commerce so they can have more cheap labor, and the Dims are wheeling and dealing for more socialist voters. So there is a strong coincidence of interests. Open debate is rarely in the cards and I can’t remember one in my adult life and I’m 58.
Personally, I would find hanging more cathartic.
You’re just mesmerized by the pendulum-like swinging at the end.
Hey, let’s all have a debate on ending the Republic! Doesn’t that sound just swell?
All we ask for is a debate!
Come on! It’ll be great!
You should compromise on it, too. You know what I mean: I say we should all jump in the volcano, you say “no way,” so then we compromise and just walk into the volcano. You first, of course.
Maybe, just maybe, this is about taking the Senate next year? The bill has no chance in the House, and the House is safely R.
[…] it in committee and Chuck Schumer would not be begging people to support it, and the fact that 30 Republicans voted for cloture is profoundly […]
Spoken like a true Concern Troll.
Now you know how the American people feel about how Congress “debates” bills like this.
There is no such thing as “safely” R.