That Long Roman Catholic Memory

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by Smitty

Your attention is drawn to Lisa Graas, over in News Reel Blog, who has a lengthy post concerning Roman Catholic records of that soft, fuzzy, warm Cordoba period in Spanish history currently peddled by GZM proponents:

Is the imam telling the truth? Catholic history indicates a different picture. According to our records, things started out rather bad under Muslim rule, by today’s standards, and went downhill over time.

Lisa is suspected of not fully supporting Teh Holy Narrative. She gets no milk and cookies tonight as a result of this post.

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  3. Did you wonder why the Spanish went through the effort of retaking over Spain and then driving the Muslims out in 1492? Now some of it was bias/prejudice (they drove the Jews out too) and some of it was justified.

  4. Did you wonder why the Spanish went through the effort of retaking over Spain and then driving the Muslims out in 1492? Now some of it was bias/prejudice (they drove the Jews out too) and some of it was justified.

  5. tell that to my Baptist forefathers who the Roman Catholic Church tortured, killed and so forth.

    One only read the Alberto Series by Jack Chick to know the truth about the past of what the Bible calls “The Great Whore of Babylon”

  6. tell that to my Baptist forefathers who the Roman Catholic Church tortured, killed and so forth.

    One only read the Alberto Series by Jack Chick to know the truth about the past of what the Bible calls “The Great Whore of Babylon”

  9. Sounds like every Leftist run country I’ve ever read about.

    Germany under Hitler.
    Italy under Mussolini.
    Russia under Stalin through Gorbachev.
    China under Mao.
    Vietnam under Ho Chi Minh.
    Cambodia under Pol Pot.
    Cuba under Castro.
    Venezuela under Chavez.

    And so forth. What a long and bloody road that has been.

  10. Sounds like every Leftist run country I’ve ever read about.

    Germany under Hitler.
    Italy under Mussolini.
    Russia under Stalin through Gorbachev.
    China under Mao.
    Vietnam under Ho Chi Minh.
    Cambodia under Pol Pot.
    Cuba under Castro.
    Venezuela under Chavez.

    And so forth. What a long and bloody road that has been.

  13. two kgs of pigsnout? Has anyone here said otherwise? Yes of course the vast majority of Muslims are not extremists. I am sure most those Muslims ejected from Spain were nice people caught up in bad events. The Spanish Inquisition was not a good thing. El Cid, on the other hand, who predated the 1492 explusion by about 400 years had plenty of Muslims fighting with him to drive out the Moors. So go figure. I am not justifying it, but sometimes bad things happen. But of course there are two sides to Granada and its history.

    Pat? The Reformation had bad events. On both sides. Let it go Dude. Let it go. Are you one of those Baptists who don’t believe Catholics are Christian?

  14. two kgs of pigsnout? Has anyone here said otherwise? Yes of course the vast majority of Muslims are not extremists. I am sure most those Muslims ejected from Spain were nice people caught up in bad events. The Spanish Inquisition was not a good thing. El Cid, on the other hand, who predated the 1492 explusion by about 400 years had plenty of Muslims fighting with him to drive out the Moors. So go figure. I am not justifying it, but sometimes bad things happen. But of course there are two sides to Granada and its history.

    Pat? The Reformation had bad events. On both sides. Let it go Dude. Let it go. Are you one of those Baptists who don’t believe Catholics are Christian?

  15. “Having lived among Arabs for about two years, witnessing and sharing (some of) the hard circumstances they live into…”

    Oh Baby Obama. What were you, Lawrence of Arabia? Sing the lyrics to it! Or did you used to live in Dearborn?

  16. “Having lived among Arabs for about two years, witnessing and sharing (some of) the hard circumstances they live into…”

    Oh Baby Obama. What were you, Lawrence of Arabia? Sing the lyrics to it! Or did you used to live in Dearborn?

  17. This is not aimed at anyone here in particular but I get a real KICK whenever various “esoteric” types, New Age nuts etc try to hijack Jesus to shore up their “Tradition” or “Lineage” or other Bullshit.

    Jesus did not sit at any Rishi’s lotus feet in order to discover the “Hidden Fucking Meaning” of either the Vedas or the Upanishads of the Hindoos as some claim.

    He wasn’t part of some phantasmagorical Ascended Master bullshit hierarchy housed somewhere in Shambala.

    Nor was he an Essene who studied the Kabbalah, contrary to whatever the esoteric in-crowd might want to believe.

    He was a Galilean, however, a little carpenter cat who built boats and repaired the wagons or whatever they used back then of the traders and merchants who came through Nazareth town selling their wares and peddling their shit.

    Just a plain ol Jew of his time and era. Nothing fancy. No Virgin Mother (yeah, Joseph boinked Mary the good old fashioned way and he got to come into this word just like every other swinging dick who’s ever “descended from on High” in any era, in any culture.

    No Holy Ghost “inseminator” either.

    Joseph of Nazareth was his “regular” father and God was his “Heavenly Father.”

    Just like you and just like me.

    He was just a big nosed, opinionated Heeb.

    I met many such Heebs when I lived in NYC and Boston.

    What I love most about Da Galilean is that he had one big jogoonda pair of BALLS!!!!!!!

    Nothing esoteric bout dat, let me tell you.

    Ballsy GG

  18. This is not aimed at anyone here in particular but I get a real KICK whenever various “esoteric” types, New Age nuts etc try to hijack Jesus to shore up their “Tradition” or “Lineage” or other Bullshit.

    Jesus did not sit at any Rishi’s lotus feet in order to discover the “Hidden Fucking Meaning” of either the Vedas or the Upanishads of the Hindoos as some claim.

    He wasn’t part of some phantasmagorical Ascended Master bullshit hierarchy housed somewhere in Shambala.

    Nor was he an Essene who studied the Kabbalah, contrary to whatever the esoteric in-crowd might want to believe.

    He was a Galilean, however, a little carpenter cat who built boats and repaired the wagons or whatever they used back then of the traders and merchants who came through Nazareth town selling their wares and peddling their shit.

    Just a plain ol Jew of his time and era. Nothing fancy. No Virgin Mother (yeah, Joseph boinked Mary the good old fashioned way and he got to come into this word just like every other swinging dick who’s ever “descended from on High” in any era, in any culture.

    No Holy Ghost “inseminator” either.

    Joseph of Nazareth was his “regular” father and God was his “Heavenly Father.”

    Just like you and just like me.

    He was just a big nosed, opinionated Heeb.

    I met many such Heebs when I lived in NYC and Boston.

    What I love most about Da Galilean is that he had one big jogoonda pair of BALLS!!!!!!!

    Nothing esoteric bout dat, let me tell you.

    Ballsy GG

  24. @DaTechGuy,
    Conversely, there are disadvantages for churches that crossed the Atlantic and brought no history with them.
    It would be error not to render credit to Rome where due.

  25. @DaTechGuy,
    Conversely, there are disadvantages for churches that crossed the Atlantic and brought no history with them.
    It would be error not to render credit to Rome where due.

  28. Pilgrims and The Crusades got out of hand with torture.
    The Holy Sephelcure has a look of being ravaged. Thanks to muslims who desecrate everything in site. Seems they do this like at Ground Zero fiasco whether or not they “win” after a battle like 9/11.
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  29. Pilgrims and The Crusades got out of hand with torture.
    The Holy Sephelcure has a look of being ravaged. Thanks to muslims who desecrate everything in site. Seems they do this like at Ground Zero fiasco whether or not they “win” after a battle like 9/11.
    ###

  32. Hmmmm. Well, as I noted in my post, it was a brutal age. Because of that, we kind of have to grade on a curve. There are many people now who have forgotten that the Founding Fathers were slaveholders. You just have to look at things in perspective as to how you judge various ages. The key point I was making was the seduction process. Islam came into Cordoba preaching “tolerance”…..but tolerance is not what Islam is about. Incidentally, there is an interesting development in Cordoba, Spain, which you might find interesting. It’s on my personal blog and shows what they mean when they say “tolerance”.
    http://genuinegopmom.blogspot.com/2010/08/muslims-in-cordoba-spain-push-to-bring.html

  33. Hmmmm. Well, as I noted in my post, it was a brutal age. Because of that, we kind of have to grade on a curve. There are many people now who have forgotten that the Founding Fathers were slaveholders. You just have to look at things in perspective as to how you judge various ages. The key point I was making was the seduction process. Islam came into Cordoba preaching “tolerance”…..but tolerance is not what Islam is about. Incidentally, there is an interesting development in Cordoba, Spain, which you might find interesting. It’s on my personal blog and shows what they mean when they say “tolerance”.
    http://genuinegopmom.blogspot.com/2010/08/muslims-in-cordoba-spain-push-to-bring.html

  34. Merchants and traders didn’t come through Nazareth town during Jesus’ lifetime, because Nazareth didn’t exist during Jesus’ lifetime.

    It was probably named for him, though, as he was an iconic figure of the Nazaroits, a/k/a the Zealots, who were “zealous for the Law” and dedicated to kicking Roman butt out of Judea.

  35. Merchants and traders didn’t come through Nazareth town during Jesus’ lifetime, because Nazareth didn’t exist during Jesus’ lifetime.

    It was probably named for him, though, as he was an iconic figure of the Nazaroits, a/k/a the Zealots, who were “zealous for the Law” and dedicated to kicking Roman butt out of Judea.

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