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Herman Cain ‘Re-Assessing’ Campaign

Posted on | November 29, 2011 | 129 Comments

Suggestion for Mr. Cain: Fire whoever it was on your staff who left me off the conference call to which Robert Costa was invited:

“Over the next several days, we are going to continue with the schedule as usual,” he said. “I’ve got a major speech tonight at Hillsdale College on national security and foreign policy and I will deliver it with vim, vigor, and enthusiasm. And then tomorrow we’ve got some media appearances scheduled. So we’re going to continue until we complete our assessment over the next several days.”
“But if a decision is made, different than to plow ahead, you all will be the first to know,” he said. “So until that time, I want to continue to thank you all for your support, thank you for your prayers. It’s taken an emotional toll, but the people in the audience tonight will never know it.”

Accusations by hyper-litigious bankrupt divorceés? No biggie.

Leaving me off a key conference call? That could be serious trouble.

I’ve got to go get a pack of smokes and cool my temper.

Maybe some updates after that.

UPDATE: OK, got my smokes, plus cheeseburgers, fries and a Hershey almond bar — comfort food, which I needed badly, as well as a cup of decaf coffee. Thanks to Don Surber for the link, as well as to Jeff Goldstein at Protein Wisdom, who says:

Time to wake up, people. Bachmann is still out there. So is Santorum. And both of them would whip Obama in any debate.

Made a few phone calls while I was out. Thanks to all the friends whose ears I blistered with my rants. I needed to vent.

Maybe I need a nap now.

UPDATE II: “When the going gets weird, the weird get pissed.” Yeah. Then the weird say, “Hit the freaking tip jar.” And take a nap.

 


Comments

129 Responses to “Herman Cain ‘Re-Assessing’ Campaign”

  1. Joe
    November 29th, 2011 @ 12:37 pm

    Why do they hate you?  But you know something, I do not want to support a candidate who treates “friends” like this.  Yeah I know, you are not her personal buddy, but you supported the guy.  And they pay you back like this? 

  2. Joe
    November 29th, 2011 @ 12:46 pm

    I support the message from Cain.  Unfortunately the implementation of the message (in the form of the campaign) sucks.  And Cain apparently has a history that 1) he is lying about or 2) he is being set up, but should have foreseen (given he knoew it was out there) and taken steps months ago to deal with it. 

  3. “Herman Cain ‘Re-Assessing’ Campaign”
    November 29th, 2011 @ 12:56 pm

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  4. Zilla of the Resistance
    November 29th, 2011 @ 1:00 pm

    Stacy, I’m pretty pissed off about how they treated you too, and when I saw bit at NRO about the conference call and realized that nobody from the campaign went to YOU with it, I needed a cigarette too.
    The most damaging thing to Herman Cain’s campaign is, and always has been, Herman Cain’s campaign.
    They should have embraced you and other new media Conservatives who were friendly to the campaign. They truly and seriously fucked up and although I know you are a good forgiving Christian man, they are not worthy of your benevolence.
    Let the Cain campaign death spiral serve as warning to other GOP candidates, remember, Obama largely won because of HIS campaign’s new media savvy.
    The GOP candidates need to stop ignoring or taking Conservative Bloggers for granted. And Republican donors should be hitting the freaking tip jars in the dextrosphere.

  5. edward royce
    November 29th, 2011 @ 1:01 pm

    Cain’s a nice fellow but it’s clear that, in addition to foreign policy deficiencies, the guy does not know how to fight in politics.  He’s trying to treat this as a businessman and that isn’t going to work.

  6. Finrod Felagund
    November 29th, 2011 @ 1:13 pm

    I’m hoping he’s more re-assessing the people in his campaign, instead of the campaign itself.
     

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  8. just a conservative girl
    November 29th, 2011 @ 1:22 pm

    Hmm, I wonder if his wife is reassessing her marriage?  I was a big fan.  I don’t believe that Sharon lady at all.  This lady I believe.  It is over.  Time for him to go.  

  9. Finrod Felagund
    November 29th, 2011 @ 1:32 pm

    Why is this moneygrubber any different than the previous moneygrubbers?
     

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  11. Anonymous
    November 29th, 2011 @ 1:36 pm

    jacg,

    I hope nobody’s going to mistake me for a Cain fanboy, but I will say this:

    Nobody can cover up all traces of a 13-year affair.

    If she’s telling the truth, it can be substantiated.

    He allegedly flew her all over the country for trysts. If so, then there will be evidence — accessible to her, not just to him — showing them in the same town on the same day multiple times.

    It doesn’t have to be pictures of them holding hands on the beach.

    It doesn’t even have to be plane tickets in her name but on his credit card.

    It could be stuff as trivial as debit card receipts that show her spending money in stores near the same hotels he stayed in around the country, on the dates he was staying there. Enough of that, and it’s not convincingly coincidence that he was in Palm Springs on Monday and so was she, he was in Miami on Thursday and so was she, he was in Minneapolis on Sunday and so was she, etc.

    If it happened, there’s a trail that can’t be completely covered up.

  12. Anonymous
    November 29th, 2011 @ 1:40 pm

    No respect. No respect at all.

  13. edward royce
    November 29th, 2011 @ 1:43 pm

    You’re kidding right?

  14. richard mcenroe
    November 29th, 2011 @ 1:43 pm

    Stacy’s a terrific reporter, but I’m seeing less and less reason to ‘turn to the new media’ because the new media has amply demonstrated that it will turn on them in the blink of an eye and for the lamest reasons, like Ace’s Palin tantrum because her supporters annoyed him.  

  15. ThePaganTemple
    November 29th, 2011 @ 1:49 pm

    Herman Cain is a man of the people. He is reassessing his campaign. Just like the people.

  16. richard mcenroe
    November 29th, 2011 @ 2:06 pm

    This affair?  As someone pointed out to Kurt Schlichter on Twitter last night, how does one keep up a years-long affair while on chemo and radiation for Stage 4 colon cancer?  That’s SUCH a turn-on.  Chemo must be better than Cialis. So if your tumor lasts more than four hours…
    But no doubt about it, this woman should pick our candidate:
    “Ms. White is an unemployed single mother. Before the interview, Fox learned that she had filed a sexual harassment claim against an employer in 2001. That case was settled. The station also found a bankruptcy filing nearly 23 years ago in Kentucky, and several eviction notices in the Atlanta area over the past six years.
    The station also reported that Ms. White had a former business partner who once sought a “stalking temporary protective order” against her for “repeated e-mails/texts threatening lawsuit and defamation of character.” The case was dismissed, but it was followed by a lawsuit against Ms. White. A judge entered an order against Ms. White because she failed to respond to the lawsuit, Fox reported.”
    — NY Times
    This kind of attack is so insidious it’s difficult to conceive of what a proper response to it might be.  They don’t know where it’s coming from, they have no idea what the next accusation will be (except that it will be shaped to capitalize on whatever weaknesses the previous attacks displayed)… and they have no support.  But this could have been shut down fast if the ‘conservative new media’ had responded with simple decency… but this blogger liked Paul and that blogger liked Perry and those fogies liked Mitt — and every one of them jumped to take advantage of it. Instead of closing ranks in defense of their “shared” conservative values and the goal of defeating Barack Obama, every other camp turned around and took a butt-stroke at the guy who just got backshot.  Even PROVEN serial adulterer Newt Effing Gingrich had the swinging brass balls to piously advise Cain to “come clean” when he had not the slightest bit more evidence than anyone there was anything to come clean about.
    Whoever did this had more success than they could ever dream of. Their attack was weak, but we turned on each other in the blink of an eye.  Whatever comes out of this, remember, we did it to ourselves.
    And yes, there will be a price to pay.  If it comes down to a fight between Romney and Gingrich, and either or both of them are the ticket we put up against Obama, we will look back on John McCain’s voter turnout with fond longing. 

  17. Dianna Deeley
    November 29th, 2011 @ 2:09 pm

    I read that Herman Cain admitted to paying the woman. I’m beyond depressed, right now.

  18. DaveO
    November 29th, 2011 @ 2:10 pm

    Just waiting for all the accusations of racism to flood in.For a non-caucasian to succeed in the GOP, s/he must destroy all stereotypes well prior to holding any public office. The Dems destroyed Cain using the most basic stereotype: the black man as satyr.

    If Bachmann or Santorum want a shot at the nomination, they are going to have to learn how to control the conversation, just like Palin does whenever she goes shopping for new shoes, or Cain’s 9-9-9 plan, or Newt’s garnering Bubba’s endorsement. I’d add Romney, but the MSM is working overtime to get him airtime, so he’s not really controlling anything.

  19. Anonymous
    November 29th, 2011 @ 2:11 pm

    Richard, this involves my diplomatic career, OK?

    The people of Vanuatu are counting on me.

  20. Pathfinder
    November 29th, 2011 @ 2:20 pm

    I really liked Cain, and wanted to continue liking him but…
    It’s time to face reality; his campaign is over now, for right or for wrong.

    This leads to the really important matter: who will be the top four of the GOP now?  I’m guessing Romney, Gingrich, Perry, and then ____?  I”m very interested in knowing who ____ will be, because that’s my likely primary vote.  My opinion only, but I just don’t care for the three I named and really don’t relish the idea of voting for one of them as another “vote against” vote in the general; I’d actually like to vote for somebody for a change.  I’m not hopeful.

  21. Adjoran
    November 29th, 2011 @ 2:24 pm

    It seems to me the Cain Presidential campaign was a publicity stunt for his book tour.  They never believed it would take off, which is why they never behaved like they were serious about running.  Once it took off, it was already close to too late, but too good to pack in.

    Cain rode the wave as long as he could.  It washed to shore.  Now Gingrich’s book tour is all the rage.

  22. Rose
    November 29th, 2011 @ 2:31 pm

    One by one, they will be felled.

    Remember how Obama gets into office. Not by his merit – but by destroying people.

    In this case he has the circular firing squad working on his behalf, when what we need is to band together against the target.

    Newt has been clear on this – and he is right. Nothing less than the fate of the world is at stake.

  23. just a conservative girl
    November 29th, 2011 @ 2:58 pm

    First, I jumped off the Cain train long before any of this came out.  I think he is not qualified to be president.  Second, he gave this woman money, money that his wife doesn’t know about.  That leaves the impression that there is something to hide.  

    I don’t know if he had a sexual relationship with this woman or not, but why would he text her at 4 am?  That doesn’t sound strange to you?  If some woman and my husband were texting  at 4 in the morning he would have some serious explaining to do, and he better do it quickly.  

    What I do know is this is a distraction that the GOP cannot afford if the goal is get Obama out of office.  

    The truth is this.  It no longer matters if they are true or not.  He is damaged goods and will not win a general election against Obama.  

  24. just a conservative girl
    November 29th, 2011 @ 3:02 pm

    No I am not kidding.  If my husband were doing the things that he has ADMITTED to, I would be pissed.  And believe me, it wouldn’t be pretty.

  25. Christy Waters
    November 29th, 2011 @ 3:02 pm

    Do you have a link for that?

  26. Anonymous
    November 29th, 2011 @ 3:13 pm

    uh oh … The Hermanator …. sigh … we need someone ELSE

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  27. Finrod Felagund
    November 29th, 2011 @ 3:23 pm

     So what you’re saying is that you’re willing to let the scandalmongers and the professional dirty tricks political operatives define our candidates for us.

    How do you know that his wife didn’t know about him giving her money?  Do you have a source for that or are you just assuming?

    If I was sending messages to a woman at 4am, my fiancee would want to know who it is and what I was saying, but beyond that and barring anything obviously salacious, she wouldn’t care.  Why do you?

    I don’t know you from Adam but the fact that you put ‘conservative’ in your name and your willingness to disregard the facts based on your feelings (your last paragraph can’t be interpreted any other way), you sound a whole heck of a lot like a liberal troll.  If you aren’t, then maybe you need to reconsider your position, because it most certainly is NOT a conservative one.  In my not so humble opinion, if you’re swayed by crap like this, then our political process would be better off without your contribution.

  28. Finrod Felagund
    November 29th, 2011 @ 3:28 pm

    Whoever wrote this doesn’t know beans about how a caucus works– you can’t just ‘write in’ your vote.  In fact, if there aren’t enough people at your caucus location that chose the same candidate that you did, then you have to either pick a candidate that did get enough local support or not vote for anyone.

  29. James Knauer
    November 29th, 2011 @ 3:29 pm

    Rose, whom, exactly, did Obama “destroy? ”  

  30. Finrod Felagund
    November 29th, 2011 @ 3:31 pm

    Don’t worry, knappster, I’ll never mistake you for a Cain fanboy.  🙂
     

  31. richard mcenroe
    November 29th, 2011 @ 3:32 pm

    A Sarah Palin write-in now is a vote for Mitt Romney.  That’s the only base she wouldn’t draw from. And maybe Huntsman’s daughters, but they think Todd’s dishy.

  32. Adjoran
    November 29th, 2011 @ 3:33 pm

    Obama isn’t above dirty tricks to keep opponents off the ballot, but he targets opponents who might beat him.  Cain’s deer-in-the-headlights style of answering serious questions would be shooting fish in a barrel for the Democrats.  If they had all this stuff, they would hold it for next year.

    Besides, Obama isn’t nearly smart enough to have planted all these women. 

    Obama didn’t fake the phone messages.  Obama didn’t force Cain to put out contradictory statements AGAIN.

    There is no nefarious conspiracy afoot.  Cain just isn’t what he was cracked up to be, by a long shot.

  33. Joe
    November 29th, 2011 @ 3:35 pm

    The happy isles of Oceania are probably not going to see a speedo wearing Stacy McCain supporting a fedora, with a cigarette in one hand and a stiff rum drink in the other. 

    That is probably a good thing. 

  34. Anonymous
    November 29th, 2011 @ 3:36 pm

    I seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ….

    so who are you giving your time and money to richard?

  35. Anonymous
    November 29th, 2011 @ 3:37 pm

    there’s plenty of time for folks to get clear on what they need to do fin

    I’m at the stage of guaging interest for the enterprise

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  37. Pathfinder
    November 29th, 2011 @ 3:45 pm

    A quick glance at his political history in Illinois can give you some examples.  The guy (or more likely his handlers) is a master at very dirty, vicious politics.  That isn’t a compliment either.

  38. Anonymous
    November 29th, 2011 @ 3:56 pm

    Well, I’m not a Cain hater, either.

    I admire his turnaround of Philadelphia’s BK’s franchises and Godfather’s Pizza for Pillsbury, and his guts in putting together a buyout of Godfather’s and taking it independent.

    I don’t find a lot to like about him politically, but the same can be said of just about any Republican or Democratic politician. I’ve been a lot harder on, for example, Ron Paul than I have been on Herman Cain.

  39. just a conservative girl
    November 29th, 2011 @ 4:05 pm

    Oh, of course.  You must be a liberal troll if you don’t agree with the Cain fans.  Or maybe I am letting the media make up my mind?  Like it or not, there is too much to keep ignoring.  We have very serious problems in this country that need solutions.  A person who has some sort of bimbo eruption every few weeks is going to be a difficult sell.  

    Just because it isn’t fair, doesn’t make it less true.

  40. Anonymous
    November 29th, 2011 @ 4:16 pm

    I am giving mine to Bachmann…

    The conservative blogosphere is starting to rally behind her, plus she is starting to rise in the polls…

    Palin is about to endorse her as well…

    There is your earthquake

    http://thebachmanncometh.blogspot.com/2011/11/glenn-beck-likes-michele-bachmann-for.html?m=0

  41. Anonymous
    November 29th, 2011 @ 4:33 pm

    LOL

    you are an entertainer BC

    glad you’ve found someone you can prop up have found confidence in ….

    meanwhile we are gonna keep rocking the Corruptocrat Boat and tip out some more of those PPC Malefactors!

    (((( GROUND OPENING UP ! )))) 2012

    (and swallowing those Ne-er-Do-Wells whole!)

    *__*

  42. Anonymous
    November 29th, 2011 @ 4:52 pm

    Hide and watch…

  43. Finrod Felagund
    November 29th, 2011 @ 5:01 pm

    When you walk like a duck and quack like a duck, what else am I supposed to call you?

    For the record, I didn’t think too much of the kerfuffle about Perry’s camp rock, either.  Does that make me a Perry fan?

    By your own admission, if someone in late 1979 had the forethought to pay off a group of bimbos to make false accusations against Ronald Reagan, you would have been against him too.  After all, Ronald Reagan was (gasp) divorced!

    You’ve doubled down on how perceptions are more important than reality, which is one of the core tenants of liberal thinking.  If you don’t like that, then maybe you should engage in critical thinking instead of going off on half-assed assumptions about Herman Cain’s accusers, giving them far more credibility than they deserve.  Heck, even people here that don’t like Cain are viewing this latest accusation skeptically;  just read down the thread.  No one’s asking you to ignore anything; what I am asking you to do is to weigh the accusations against the credibility of the person making them, which you are not willing to do.  You won’t even tell me your source for where you got the information about Herman Cain supposedly hiding from his wife giving this woman money.

    Make up your own damn mind, don’t fall back on ‘well there are so many charges, surely there must be something to them’ like a lazy liberal, cause that’s how you’re coming across to me.  Again, with what you’ve said so far in this thread, I still think the political process would be better off without your contribution.

  44. just a conservative girl
    November 29th, 2011 @ 5:13 pm

    Felagund:
    What I think is not the issue.  I wasn’t going to vote for him in the primary in any case.  I ruled him out months ago. 

    The issue is the run of the mill general election voter.  Far too many in this country make up their minds by sound bites.  It doesn’t matter if what they hear is not true.   They go no further than what they hear on the news or read in their local paper.  

    If general election voters were predisposed to do research on the candidates on their own how in the heck did we get Obama?  All you needed to know about his beliefs and what type of policies he would promote was out there.  No one bothered to listen to it.  

    Do I like that?  No, but it is reality.  

    People are going to hear four women saying he has issues about sexual misconduct and/or cheating on his wife.   Enough voters will never go past that information.  

  45. James Knauer
    November 29th, 2011 @ 5:13 pm

    So no names, just “those people,” I get it.  It’s not enough for them to have lost, they had to have been “destroyed?”  Are they still breathing?

    Over the top rhetoric will not win national elections.  See:  I’m McSuspending my campaign circa October, 2008.

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  47. Anonymous
    November 29th, 2011 @ 5:45 pm

    Yeah, I loved that one.

    “Did you see that?  After I threw spitballs at that guy, he got all mad and stuff!  Geez, how annoying!”

    Rinse and repeat, and you have about 90% of the anti-palin crap at ace’s.

  48. Anonymous
    November 29th, 2011 @ 5:46 pm

    Where’s the link to such “admitting?”

  49. Anonymous
    November 29th, 2011 @ 5:48 pm

    wilco

    *__*

    (((( GROUND OPENING UP ! )))) 2012

  50. Anonymous
    November 29th, 2011 @ 5:52 pm

    I’m totally against caving to the accusations until someone puts up the bodily-fluids-stained-dress.  I’m even willing to overlook the pecaddiloes if they are true, provided the man stands up to all this sexual BS with some serious backbone.  It’s not like anyone is accusing him of assault.

    But this stuff about excluding the guy who got the Mo happening on the web is disturbing.  And Stacy is definitely that guy.  No one else comes close. Even if someone else put up Cain articles first, Stacy brought in the eyeballs.