“Now there is what appears to be a concerted effort to lower, or even obliterate, the age of consent; but I suspect the culprits engaged therein are less interested in long-term relationships — children eventually grow up, after all — than in simply getting their hands into some poor kid’s Garanimals.”
— Charles G. Hill, Dustbury.com
Our friend Mr. Hill has zeroed in on exactly the problem with this particular perversity. Pedophilia is the fetishization of youth, wherein a person is persistently obsessed with sexual objects of a certain age. This dehumanizes the object of the obsession, and is the opposite of the “one life, one wife” permanent pair-bonding that is the social ideal.
Because youth does not last, neither can the “relationship” between the pedophile and his prey. One may point to the unusual exception: After her release from prison in 2005, Mary Kay LeTourneau married Vili Fualaau, with whom she began her involvement when he was a 13-year-old middle schooler and she was his 34-year-old teacher.
Mary Kay LeTourneau in court, 1998.
But this merely highlights how such relationships transgress the lifelong pair-bonding norm: First, LeTourneau abandoned her husband and four children to pursue this relationship and, second, she is now 51 and her second husband (the father of her two youngest children) is 30. How much longer may we expect this fellow in the prime of life to remain a devoted husband to his elderly wife?
If the LeTourneau case is exceptional in many ways, nevertheless it is typical in others. The adult who pursues illegal sex with minors is always — invariably — a troubled personality, either (a) the maladapted misfit unable to find a satisfactory and enduring adult relationship, or else (b) a sort of sexual opportunist seeking a new thrill to relieve the boredom or soothe the disappointments of adult life.
Some who have been more sympathetic to LeTourneau have pointed to problems in her marriage to Steve LeTourneau, seeing her as the victim of domestic abuse. And while this background may to some extent explain LeTourneau’s problems, it cannot excuse her illegal actions because if we were to accept such an excuse even once, no student would be safe from the predatory sexual interest of any teacher discontented with the quality of their adult relationships.
“Your honor, my client ‘s wife is a nagging bitch, so you
can’t blame him for boning that 15-year-old.
And, hey, it was consensual.”
This commonly heard rationalization, that illegal sex with minors is not really a crime when it is “consensual,” is invalid because (a) it ignores every advantage that the older offender may employ to obtaining such illegal consent, and (b) it ignores the fact that young people are not competent judges of their own best interests.
Point (b) is something that every responsible parent understands. If I were to let my children do whatever pleases them, they would never do anything except watch TV and play video games. Some children are more mature and responsible than others, but their superior qualities cannot be used as evidence against them, as it were, to argue that they should be treated as sexual “fair game.”
“Your honor, the alleged victim is fully developed —
just look at the rack on her, will ya? — and she’s so
emotionally mature that it was only natural she
wanted to get naked with her sophomore gym teacher.
Like I said, it was consensual.”
All age-of-consent laws are to some extent arbitrary: One day a young person is jailbait — off-limits, taboo, the Forbidden Fruit — and then they hit the Magic Birthday where they can legally do anything they want (consensually) with any of their fellow adults. Police, prosecutors, judges and juries may in every case use their discretion in regard to the enforcement of these laws, considering all circumstances in determining how severely any specific infraction should be punished.
One summer day in 1974, I arrived at high school band camp to find all my hoodlum buddies in the trombone section abuzz with the excitement provoked by a certain freshman majorette. Tanned and brunette, with high cheekbones and the brilliant white smile of a carnivore, Sally on that hot Georgia day wore pink short-shorts tightly encasing a pelvis that was a casus belli — hips to kill or die for — and she had legs of perfection beyond the power of mere words to describe. Completing her ensemble of adolescent irresistibility, Sally wore a tight white midriff top, exposing her lean abdomen and emphasizing the pert firmness of her breasts.
Nearly four decades later, that splendid vision remains embedded in my neural cortex, and I doubt any other alumnus of the 1974 Douglas County High School Marching Tiger Band can say he’s ever forgotten what Sally looked like that August day. Her smile so bright, her body so temptingly lithe — oh, every male within eyesight of Sally the Freshman Majorette must have struggled to restrain his inner pirate: “Arggh, what a comely young wench you are! You will be mine!”
Sally was eventually wooed and won by our band’s drum major, a former trumpet section leader who was a senior that year, and the last I heard they were still married. I invoke the vision of Sally her first day at band camp — when all the guys were asking each other, “Who the hell is that chick in the pink hot pants?” — to say that there are entirely understandable urges which the law nonetheless requires us to resist.
Dude, the Pope would have hit that.
Like a diesel locomotive at full throttle on a downhill grade.
Why Do You Think They Call It ‘Jailbait’?
It may therefore seem unnatural for the law to place such a precocious specimen of nubile perfection entirely off-limits to the universe of men who could not help but desire Sally in her short-shorts. And if you think I’m exaggerating, you obviously weren’t there in August 1974.
What the law prohibits, however, it prohibits for a reason and, while certain of these prohibitions may seem unfair or illogical, our imaginations are not always far-reaching enough to perceive the potential consequences of changing or abolishing these laws.
“That’s what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age.”
— Dave Wooderson, Dazed and Confused (1993)
Not much imagination is necessary to the common-sense understanding that if there are no laws against having sex with 14-year-olds, the Dave Woodersons of the world will run amok. Therefore any appeal for leniency in the enforcement of these laws must be balanced against the consideration of what might result if such leniency became customary, and young adults banging jailbait could be confident that, even if they got caught, they most likely would be let off with a trifling punishment.
Indeed, the culture of the 1970s portrayed in Dazed and Confused — where Dave Wooderson’s hoodlum life involved a seemingly infinite parade of hot-to-trot high-school girls — was a very real phenomenon. Hoodlums in that era had more fear of the cops catching them with a bag of weed than with a 15-year-old girlfriend. If the prosecution of such crimes has become more severe in recent decades, this is not merely a “backlash” of the legal pendulum swinging away from permissiveness, but rather a sober and realistic recognition of the dangers that can result from failing to be vigilant in the protection of youth.
And it is this actual knowledge, I believe, that caused such an alarm when the “Free Kate” movement sprang forth with its arguments for non-enforcement of Florida law on the basis of “rights,” a nationwide crusade portraying Kaitlyn Hunt as a victim of homophobic discrimination.
“Wait just a minute here,” said every adult with enough sense to tie their own shoes. “Are you trying to tell me that prosecution under this law — which makes it a felony for anyone 18 or older to have sex with anyone 15 or younger — is invalid because some perpetrators might be gay?”
Liberals Now Arguing for a Lesbian’s Right
to Have Sex With a 14-Year-Old Girl
That was my first headline on May 22 about the Kaitlyn Hunt saga and, no matter how many evasions and justifications the “Free Kate” mob has offered during the past five weeks, they cannot escape the basic reality that they are trying to make homosexuality a “Get Out of Jail Free Card” for sex offenders, as Matthew Philbin said. Nor can the “Free Kate” mob deny that, should they succeed in thwarting the prosecution on such a basis, it would have the effect of voiding the age-of-consent law in Florida for everyone — male or female, gay or straight.
Some of them are even honest enough to admit this:
“Get rid of numerical age of consent laws. … Get rid of arbitrary numbers. No one should have to do math to love another person.”
Dave Wooderson never had it so good, man.
Caution Lights on the Road to Sexual Anarchy
We have been told by the apologists for Kaitlyn Hunt that consensual sex between an 18-year-old and a 14-year-old can never be wrong and, even if the 14-year-old’s parents disapprove, the law that makes these acts felonious is inherently unjust because it was all just an innocent “high school romance” and anyone who disapproves is a bigoted hateful hater.
OK, suppose we stipulate this. If we cannot draw the legal line at 14, what’s to prevent the goalposts from being shoved back to 13 and let Joshua Measroch argue that he is likewise being unfairly persecuted by hateful haters? And then once you say 13-year-olds are fair game, who will say that a 12-year-old should be off-limits to Omar Abdelbadie?
She was “dressed provocatively,” you hateful haters.
Perhaps you can describe a logical stopping point on the road to absolute Sexual Anarchy, but if these perverts don’t respect the laws we have now — and authorities say they have evidence that Kaitlyn Hunt knew it was wrong for her to have sex with a 14-year-old — why do you think they’ll respect your “reformed” age of consent?
Those who in all seriousness compare accused sex offender Kaitlyn Hunt to Rosa Parks, thus portraying her as a heroic activist, would have us believe that fingering a 14-year-old in a school restroom toilet stall is an act of civil disobedience against unjust laws. And the manifestation of this Jailbait Rights Movement has been actively applauded by the political Left. Kate Hunt’s affair with a 14-year-old was defended by the American Civil Liberties Union as “behavior that is both fairly innocuous and extremely common.” The gay-rights group Equality Florida demanded that prosecutors “drop felony charges” against Kaitlyn Hunt, describing her case as “an outrageous misapplication of the law.”
So if your 14-year-old daughter runs away from home to spend the night playing Spin the Dildo with an 18-year-old lesbian . . .
But is Kaitlyn Hunt a lesbian or an opportunistic sexual outlaw?
Her own mother says that, until Saint Kate of the Blessed Finger became involved with this 14-year-old girl, Kaitlyn had “always dated boys.” Indeed, one of her classmates at Sebastian River High School asserted that Kaitlyn Hunt was so enthusiastically heterosexual as to be “known as a whore throughout the school.” Isn’t there something weird about this? As I wrote on May 27:
So . . . precious Kate was a happy, popular heterosexual until her senior year in high school, when she met this irresistibly hot freshman girl and — boom! — Instant Lesbian.
At that point, I had no idea what the younger girl looked like, but I’ve since seen photos and she’s a nerdy-looking kid with glasses.
While it is unwise to judge a book by its cover, it’s extremely difficult to imagine anyone looking at that awkward geek-girl and thinking, “Wow, that’s some smokin’ hot lesbian action there.”
Sally the Freshman Majorette, she was not.
Exactly why this 14-year-old became the sapphic inamorata of Kaitlyn Hunt, who according to her mother had hitherto been entirely straight, is something the “Free Kate” crowd has never bothered to explain. This mystery — Sudden Onset Jailbait Lesbian Syndrome — has provoked speculation by sex-abuse survivor S.J. Reidhead. And one wonders what therapeutic experts might say about the impulsive personality that swerves so inexplicably from heterosexual promiscuity to a helpless craving for underage geek girls.
Allegedly, I hasten to add, even though the arrest affidavit says Kaitlyn admitted her crimes and her defense does not argue she didn’t do the deed, only that her crimes aren’t really criminal.
‘Send an Innocent Young Girl to Prison’
Kaitlyn Hunt’s defenders say it is wrong to describe her as a “predator” or a “pedophile.” Certainly no one can presume to know, absent further evidence, whether she has any persistently perverse tendency that would make her likely to re-offend in the future. Such judgments are best left to those most familiar with the case, rather than debated among strangers who only know of this situation what they read on the Internet. Yet we have been confronted with a crusading movement on Kaitly Hunt’s behalf and it is this movement — which aims to prevent the enforcement of Florida law — that commands our critical scrutiny.
In seeking public support, the “Free Kate” movement condemned in no uncertain terms the parents of the 14-year-old girl who called this case to the attention of authorities in Indian River County, Florida. Nine times in her May 17 Facebook post, Kaitlyn Hunt’s mother Kelley Hunt Smith named those parents, accusing them of “vengeance,” saying they “were out to destroy my daughter” because they “are bigoted, religious zealots.” The younger girl’s parents “fought dirty,” Kaitlyn’s mother said, and “are trying to ruin my daughter’s life . . . trying to send an innocent young girl to prison because they are full of hate and bigotry.”
On and on it went for 1,500 words. Nothing that Kaitlyn Hunt did was wrong, her mother said: “They are teenagers in high school experimenting with their sexuality, all teens do it in one form or another. They are teens, it’s healthy and normal.” It was a “mutual consenting sexual experience,” Kelley Hunt Smith said. The real problem, she said, was the attitude of the younger girl’s parents:
“Her parents can play the ‘victims’ and ruin my daughters life. … These people’s delusional stand, their hate and bigotry is tearing our daughter apart.”
And just to make sure that everyone reading her Facebook post knew who to blame, Kaitlyn’s mother named these parents nine times.
The Kaitlyn Hunt sex crime case was featured on NBC’s ‘Today’ show, May 23
Most people would be content to have had Kaitlyn Hunt’s case remain strictly a local law-enforcement matter, but on the basis of her mother’s Facebook rant, instead it became a national movement, part of what Charles Hill calls “a concerted effort to lower, or even obliterate, the age of consent,” and some of her supporters are only interested in “getting their hands into some poor kid’s Garanimals.”
We may recognize a difference between the two phenomena, but the rationalizations that true pedophiles offer for their criminal acts are not really all that different. Lifelong perverts engage in the same patterns: Minimizing their crimes as essentially harmless, claiming that they are misunderstood and unjustly persecuted, and asserting that their victims weren’t really victims at all, but willing participants who actually enjoyed having sex with the pervert.
“Your honor, this so-called ‘victim’ is very mature for a fifth-grader.
He has admitted he wanted to help my client find his lost puppy.
Why else would he get in the van? Obviously, it was consensual.”
As ridiculous as such an argument sounds, how much further down the slippery slope do we have to slide if now parents can be denounced as “full of hate and bigotry” simply because they expect the law to protect their daughter against the Hunt family’s weird ideas about what is “healthy and normal” for 14-year-olds to do?
[The 14-year-old] ran away from home to spend the night [of Jan. 4] in Kaitlyn’s bedroom where, to quote the affidavit by Sheriff’s Office Detective Jeremy Shepherd, the two girls “put their fingers inside of each other’s vaginas, put their mouths on each other’s vaginas, and both of them used a vibrator on each other to insert it in each other’s vaginas.”
Happy 14th Birthday! (Batteries not included.)
Having been a sophomore trombonist that day when Sally the Freshman Majorette arrived at band camp, I certainly cannot be accused of lacking empathy with hormone-crazed teenagers. But parents have an obligation to protect their kids from corrupting influences, and shouldn’t the law side with parental protection rather than with those who make excuses for corrupting influences?
Can any rational person accept the claims that this behavior is so “innocuous” and “common” that it is “outrageous” to enforce the law?
It doesn’t matter whether we approve or disapprove or, in my case, are utterly mystified by Kaitlyn Hunt’s peculiar interests. Maybe there is a lesbian geek-girl fad in Indian River County that is as unfathomable to me as the fashions of 1974 would be to any teenager today.
Similarly, I cannot explain why Mary Kay LeTourneau, at age 34, suddenly developed an insatiable appetite for 13-year-old boyflesh. Or why Elizabeth Miklosovic wanted a seventh-grade pagan child-bride.
De gustibus non est disputandum.
Nevertheless, without being unfashionably judgmental of these, uh, “fairly innocuous” preferences, the law does not punish desire or affection. Despite the claim by Kaitlyn Hunt’s father that his daughter faces prison for a mere “high school romance,” even in Florida the law does not criminalize poetry or long walks in the moonlight.
It was not her sentiments but her actions for which Kaitlyn was arrested. Shall we quote the famous words of a film director?
“Judges want to f–k young girls. Juries want to f–k young girls. Everyone wants to f–k young girls!”
— Roman Polanski
Roman Polanski is considered a “creative genius” in France, but the last time I checked, Indian River County is not in France, and Kaitlyn Hunt should have taken the plea bargain.
Speaking from experience pity the poor bass drummer..
NAMBLA, anyone? Gays in the Boy Scouts, perhaps?
Evanescent Youth, Predatory Persistence http://t.co/ksfylteqeB
And it doesn’t matter their age. Some boys are 30, some men are 16. It’s about maturity, morals, and work ethic. Unfortunately, I’m more the 30 year old boy than 16 year old man.
And I have no one to blame but me.
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Google “intergenerational intimacy” and explore more of this brave new world Mr. McCain exposes!
You know you can do rule #5 entirely with pics. Even so, I found your words somewhat titillating.
Band camp. That takes me back. Now you folks know why some of us spent a lot of years playing rock music well after band camp.
But normal people get over it. Start families or at least move on in other ways. What I hate is this current societal urge to look boyish. I don’t mean like the Mod chicks did back in the 1960’s. I mean like “McCauley Caulkin in his ten-year-old prime” kind of boyish. And I also don’t mean just ladies. It’s like “Hey! It’s everybody look like a kid time!”
I don’t want to be married to some Rosewell alien with a stretched, Pelosi face when I’m old. Where does this obsession with having and being jailbait come from?
Your focus on this issue (predatory behavior of adolescents or adults towards adolescents) is simply excellent. Rarely does a journalist have the ethics and intelligence required to sustain it. Very, very good.
I think it is so important because you are highlighting a problem that is largely “censored” by the normal social discourse. Liberals and society in general talk about predatory sexual behavior towards minors as if it only existed as a problem regarding pre-pubescent chidlren. That’s the stereotype of “pedophile” that they want to emblazon in people’s minds in order not to talk about exploitation of adolescents. It’s related to the grotesque lie that homosexuality agenda activists repeat again and again: “homosexuality is not pedophilia” – as they try to cover up the fact that there are plenty of homosexual abusers and molesters of both young children AND adolescents (and also of adults). It’s not that homosexuality equals pedophilia, that is, every person with a homosexual problem is obligatorily a pedophile. Among homosexuals, just like among heterosexuals and bisexuals, there are plenty of pedophiles and predators of adolescents and adults.
And it’s also very good that you are focusing on women who are sexual predators, another topic that is largely ignored by our more cowardly and morally corrupt MSM.
RT @rsmccain: Evanescent Youth, Predatory Persistence http://t.co/hZZj64gQpt | @sjreidhead @dustbury @Mattphilbin | DON’T #FreeKate
I’ve spent the past 4 hours working what is at least a 3 part series for The Pink Flamingo (shameless plug) for next week. I keep going back and forth about Kate being a pedophile. Then, I found something rather fascinating. I’m going to lift it c/p from the unfinished post. So, please ignore the formatting. The information is what grabbed my attention, almost immediately.
“…”…As noted by Abel, Mittleman, and Becker (1985) and Ward et al. (1995), there are generally large distinctions between the two types of offenders’ characteristics. Situational offenders tend to offend at times of stress; have a later onset of offending; have fewer, often familial victims; and have a general preference for adult partners. Pedophilic offenders, however, often start offending at an early age; often have a large number of victims who are frequently extrafamilial; are more inwardly driven to offend; and have values or beliefs that strongly support an offense lifestyle. Research suggests that incest offenders recidivate at approximately half the rate of extrafamilial
child molesters, and one study estimated that by the time of entry to treatment, nonincestuous pedophiles who molest boys had committed an average of 282 offenses against 150 victims…”
If so, then the Smith child may be the first, of many more. If so, then Kate would have been molested as a child, which has been one of my theories, all along. This is all so tragic. Kate Hunt is as much a victim as is the Smith child. She is a victim of her parents, who have basically destroyed her, and are now trying to profit by her behavior. The more I see of the story, the more pity I have for her. She has crossed the line, I fear, from victim to predator.
SJR
“Pedophiles are severely warped sociopaths into predatory control. They need to be permantly…” — Evi L. Bloggerlady http://t.co/39Z0OwhZNb
Brilliant, Stacy.
A good question worth persuing.
That fourteen-year-old-boy-from-the-waist-down that most models and actresses have is the result, I think, of women and homosexual men controlling the Fashion Industry.
Offtopic: the USDA has told a magician that uses a rabbit in his act that he has to have a disaster plan for how to take care of the rabbit in the event of a disaster, by late July.
I wish I was kidding about this.
http://bobmccarty.com/2013/06/28/usda-tells-magician-to-write-disaster-plan-for-his-rabbit/
To complement the perps, there are always the promoters:
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/police-investigate-teacher-who-posted-graphic-gay-sex-brochures-in-7-8-toro/
“Police investigate teacher who posted graphic gay sex brochures in 7-8 Toronto classroom”
These are the people who call us bigots and haters, which now include the disgusting Justice Kennedy and the closeted Kagan slug
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“Sally wore a tight white midriff top, exposing her lean abdomen and emphasizing the pert firmness of her breasts.”
Sounds like a letter to “Dear Penthouse”
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There is no excuse for what the Hunt woman did.
I disagree with that phrase perverse, perversion, or pervert.
Not so long ago, it was perverse for two people of different religions to marry.
Not so long ago, it was perverse for two people with radically different skin tones to marry.
And a bit longer ago, it wasn’t unusual 14 year olds to marry and have kids.
What Kaitlyn Hunt did was illegal. The moral argument is far more slippery.
There are some guys I know whose soon-to-be ex-wives made the pervert accusation against them during the divorce, and now they can’t see their kids.
I know a mother who lost custody of her kids because she was a topless dancer.
Law and morality are not the same.
[…] Start your morning off by reading Stacy's long and amusing piece on Band Camp Sally and the Free Kate agenda. […]
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Another unfortunate aspect of our society is that the social contract is breaking down. Police forces, comprised if CIVILIAN peace officers, are becoming militarized, and the focus seems to be on harassing and arresting Amish who sell raw milk. At the same time, child molesting teachers and celebrities are getting slaps on the wrists. In my view, as this worsens, people will start taking justice into their own hands instead of involving the State. And, folks, in some cases that will go beyond the talking-to that the Hunt apologists demand, and may escalate to shotguns and rock salt. Or worse.
Jerry Pournelle has been discussing the bunny inspectors on his blog for at least a couple of years now. He sees them as symbolic of a ruling class that won’t cut anywhere – except, of course, the military.
RT @TxAv8r: Does #FreeKate suffer from Sudden Onset Jailbait Lesbian Syndrome or is it something … deeper? @rsmccain reports: http://t.…
How to take care of the rabbit in the event of a disaster: I hear they are excellent with paprika.
Don’t let your kids play with this dude either…
Grown men dressing like boys and thinking like children is a big part of our current problems…
When I met the missus, she was 17 and I, 24. I never checked to see if that fell afoul of Maryland law, because I was old enough by then to know that 17 was too young for someone my age, in terms of emotional compatibility (Also, she would have nothing to do with me. Smart girl). Three years later it was a different story.
Maybe it’s me, but that three years made getting her that much sweeter. If Miss Hunt had shown some of the same restraint, the only news out of Florida right now would be speculation as to who’s going to primary Rubio.
There is no doubt, as evidenced by very public posts, that the Hunt family is severely troubled. I’ve often thought, given the similarities among such offenders, that their unconcious desire to destroy the innocence of as many others as possible to seek vengence for the their own stolen innocence. Of course, it’s pure speculation, but there’s something about Ms. Hunt’s eyes which is profoundly disturbing, and I wonder whether a pathologic “misery loves company” mindset is behind it.
Sally was eventually wooed and won by our band’s drum major, a former trumpet section leader who was a senior that year, and the last I heard they were still married.
The age difference between them was about the same as Kaitlyn and her victim.
I am going to guess he did not do her in the rest room. He dated her, did not immediately sleep with her and eventually married her. There is something very predatory about how Kaitlyn acted.
[…] Stacy and I agree… […]
Well said!
The problem I have about the arrest is that they were both in high school and it’s easy for me to see it as a senior and a freshman get together and together leads to intimacy. It isn’t 30 or 40 something year old Polanski getting himself a 13 year old girl to screw because he’s rich and an egomaniac and can get it done. It’s also not the John Sandford novel “Shadow Prey” where a scumbag politician is lured to a brothel with the chance to screw a 13 year old. They’re kids in school together.
I believe that in some (many?) states the consent is tied to age separation, like 2 or 3 years (I think) so that a 12 year old could have sex with anyone from 10 to 14. The idea being to protect children from predators and not each other. I suppose even this can be argued against (or for) — but I think it is a basis to include students of the same school with each other (or perhaps even in the same level of schooling, like high school, at the same time, if they should happen to meet someone from another school).
Glad to know I’m not the only one who noticed Miss Hunt is sporting a bit of the crazy eyes stare. I would hazard a guess that she is severely messed up, and that her family has much to do with it. It’s a pity that she has been allowed to become what she has, but it would be a greater injustice to allow it to continue, thus she must be dealt with (although I think her parents need to be dealt with as well — something strikes me as very not right about them). That our society has lost all manner of adult decorum and sensibility is perhaps the cause of this — and that has no gender or sexuality restrictions (I’m positive of this, given some of the arguments, which often become heated, when I’ve posited the notion that older females in sexual relations with much younger men is just as odious and deplorable, just as victimizing, as relations between older men and underage girls; both are equally predatory, obsessively fetishistic, and indecorous and should be prosecuted equally; they should above all not be excused as so many are wont to do).
You’re rationalizing the harm to both children (if one uses the age of 18 to signify adulthood. Obamacare has a higher age to signify adulthood, which is defined as independence from the parent(s)). Children lack the knowledge and experience to understand the damage being done to their bodies, or the extent of time (in most cases a lifetime) necessary to heal psychologically.
As noted in this comment thread, the harm suffered by a child can and usually does lead to that child, when an adult, harming his or her own child[ren]. This is not the stuff of conjecture. There are enough studies and books out there that one can not dismiss them and still claim to have integrity.
Besides the harm to the child psychologically/emotionally, and in many cases physically, and beyond the harm to one’s descendents, there is also harm to society.
Planned Parenthood thrives on females under the age of 18 utilizing PP’s abortion mills. American taxpayers are subsiding those abortions. The money could and should be spent on roads and bridges, but instead it goes to helping Little Suzy aborting her baby by the boy a year or 20 years older than she is.
STD, abortions, abandoned babies, and most odious: girls too young to drive being forced to get pregnant so their 36-year old grandmothers and 24-year old mothers can get more welfare money. All of which we who pay taxes must pay for. The average taxpayer supports many households in an obscene abomination of Charity, just because of child sex.
Society has lost all manner of adult decorum because it has elevated “youth” to the be-all and end-all of ideal human existance. No more are older people respected or celebrated for their age, wisdom and experience. Instead, society judges them based on whether their external appearance approaches some fanciful “90210” archtype. Of course, then society wrings its hands when disturbed people pursue this elixir of “forever 17” in the form of liasons with ever younger romantic partners, in addition to the what’s available in the beauty aisle at Wal-Mart.
“she is now 51 …his elderly wife” Elderly??? Step a little closer sonny, and I’ll beat you with my walker!
I sincerely doubt Kate’s thoughts are that malicious. Most people’s are not. Even those who one might consider truly evil are generally driven more by self interest and/or a lack of caring/empathy for others than an a desire to harm people. Unfortunately, she was probably thinking (if she was thinking at all) along the lines of “Hey, I got messed with this way by X when I was her age or younger and I turned out OK” I don’t think any of us really think she is right in the head. But that does not mean she thinks she has a problem. This means she will go to jail where she will wind up in some program where they give her a puppy. She’ll take good care of the puppy and this will allow her to get out of her sentence early. She’ll wind up back on the streets and she’ll either molest some more kids or, if she actually learned something, she’ll just leave a trail of broken lives behind her because she just doesn’t give a damn about what she does to people.
From the mid-torso down, more like it. And yes, many of us normal folk suspect homosexuals have long been behind the boying of the “ideal woman.”
Gimme an average woman with meat on her any day.
Homosexuality in all its forms is abuse, or misuse if you prefer, of self and of others. There’s no way around that, either theistically, evolutionarily, or any mode of thought in between.
I happily stand corrected – mid-torso is what I meant to write. My only excuse: it was 0300 and my brain was winding-down [and alcohol-deprived this weekend].
I’ve seen Roger Corman movies with that opening shot…not that I ever sat through them or nothin’…
I was just told Hilaria Baldwin is Alec Baldwin’s wife. Eeeewww. Alec Baldwin married his daughter? You give these Liberals an inch on social norms and look what happens!
It’s like the Mad Magazine parody of Summer of 42…but without the laughs.
This is as the Left wants it and has been their strategy.
People who refuse to grow up, to accept adult responsibilities and who reject the hard-won wisdom of their elders are easier to mentally manipulate.
Think of the Left as a Triffid: it unleashes it’s venom on the mind and kills it, then waits for it to rot before it eats it.
Good points and well-reasoned, although I don’t agree with all of them, but I will keep your argument in mind as we observe more of her.
Bob McCarty?…well, he may be a fine and insightful fellow, but can he hold a candle to this Bob Belvedere guy?
Just hope he lives long enough to think 51 is “robbing the cradle”! Heh.