Washington Post Publishes Jailbait Apologist (Ain’t I Done Told You So?)

Posted on | August 31, 2013 | 301 Comments

Besty Karasik is an airhead who quit her job as a laywer to become a painter. Whatever the art community gained by that transaction, the legal community lost no wisdom. In an op-ed in the Washington Post, Karasik argues for decriminalizing student-teacher sex:

[W]ith our legal and moral codes failing us, our society needs to have an uncensored dialogue about the reality of sex in schools. . . .
I don’t believe that all sexual conduct between underage students and teachers should necessarily be classified as rape, and I believe that absent extenuating circumstances, consensual sexual activity between teachers and students should not be criminalized. . . .
[T]he utter hysteria with which society responds to these situations does less to protect children than to assuage society’s need to feel that we are protecting them.

See, the problem is not teachers having sex with students. No, the real problem is the “utter hysteria” about this, and “society’s need to feel” that children are protected. In other words, the problem is your irrationality, whereas teachers banging their students . . . well, they’re in need of understanding and sympathy. Teachers who have sex with kids are victims, really — victims of your “utter hysteria.”

Coincidentally, I had just been re-reading Thomas Sowell’s The Vision of the Anointed, which addresses this rhetorical trick:

A concern that is important to the anointed is called “a matter of principle,” while a concern that is important to the benighted is called “an emotional issue.” Apparently other people don’t have reasons or principles; all they have are emotions.

So if you think teachers having sex with students should be criminally prosecuted, Karasik dismisses you as a hysteric. By contrast, Karasik’s own enthusiasms — “My loyalty is to justice and the planet,” she declares on her Twitter profile — she regards as entirely valid.

Betsy Karasik’s experience is simply superior to yours:

I’ve been a 14-year-old girl, and so have all of my female friends. When it comes to having sex on the brain, teenage boys got nothin’ on us. When I was growing up in the 1960s and ’70s, the sexual boundaries between teachers and students were much fuzzier. Throughout high school, college and law school, I knew students who had sexual relations with teachers. To the best of my knowledge, these situations were all consensual in every honest meaning of the word, even if society would like to embrace the fantasy that a high school student can’t consent to sex. Although some feelings probably got bruised, no one I knew was horribly damaged and certainly no one died.

You have never been a 14-year-old girl, so your opinion doesn’t count. And if you have been a 14-year-old girl, but still don’t think it should be legal for teachers to have sex with students? Well, never mind your objections, because Betsy Karasik says it’s just fine.

No harm, no foul — maybe some bruised feelings, but teachers banging their students is really only a problem because of “society” which, having already been condemned for its “utter hysteria,” she now diagnoses as being in the grip of “the fantasy that a high school student can’t consent to sex.” But is this really what society believes? Are “hysteria” and “fantasy” the basis of our laws? Are there no valid reasons to treat student-teacher sex as a crime?

After saying that workplace sexual harassment is worse than consensual sex between teenagers and teachers, Karasik alludes in passing to “certain teachers I considered friends despite their sexual relations with students.” Who are these teachers? Would she be so kind as to tell us their names, so that we might examine whether (as Karasik assures us) their sexual involvement with students was harmless?

But, no, she just throws this strange fact out there — some of Betsy Karasik’s friends are teachers who have sex with their students — and continues with her condemnation of society:

The point is that there is a vast and extremely nuanced continuum of sexual interactions involving teachers and students, ranging from flirtation to mutual lust to harassment to predatory behavior. Painting all of these behaviors with the same brush sends a damaging message to students and sets the stage for hypocrisy and distortion of the truth. Many teenagers are, biologically speaking, sexually mature. Pretending that this kind of thing won’t happen if we simply punish it severely enough is delusional.

Her rhetoric — “utter hysteria . . . fantasy . . . delusional” — is deliberately dismissive. All who disagree with Betsy Karasik are irrational, or are too stupid to understand that “vast and extremely nuanced continuum” of which enligthened people like herself are aware.

It’s not as if you couldn’t predict that such arguments would be made as our culture slid slowly down the slippery slope. In April 2002, I published an article with the headline, “Promoting pedophilia; Attempts to legitimize adult-child sex on rise,” and there were people then who said that such concerns were irrational.

In January of this year, Rush Limbaugh warned about “a movement to normalize pedophilia,” and was mocked by Soledad O’Brien.

Well, here we are in August, and the Washington Post is publishing columns advocating the legalization of student-teacher sex.

Wesley J. Smith at National Review says, “How low can we go? I am afraid we are going to find out.” Betsy Karasik finds herself shocked by the “tsunami of attackers” on Twitter:

@BradleySpeaks That really was my principle point, though you'd never know it from the tsunami of attackers.

— B Karasik (@PaintsNature) August 31, 2013

I have done my best to respond to those of you with questions but an opinion piece is meant to open discussion, not give all the answers.

— B Karasik (@PaintsNature) August 31, 2013

Of course, in her mind, the “tsunami” only confirms to Betsy Karasik that “society” is hysterical and delusional. She wants to “open discussion” about legalizing sex with 14-year-olds. And when society answers back, “Oh, hell, no”? This just proves you’re crazy.

UPDATE: Now a Memeorandum thread, with further commentary by Jazz Shaw at Hot Air and Tim Graham at the Media Research Center, but I like Stephen Kruiser’s solution best: “Kill the media.”

The world is full of idiots with bad ideas and the editors of the Washington Post are obligated to publish only the very worst of them. One cannot reform such institutions as the Washington Post and the New York Times, but can only pray for their well-deserved destruction, because their wicked depravity is not accidental.

The publishers are amoral monsters, their editors are active agents of evil, and their deliberate policy is to employ no honest or decent person. Nor could any honest or decent person ever wish to be associated with publications whose daily business is the destruction of Western civilization. A Christian would no more desire to be published by the Washington Post than to work in an abortion clinic or a bordello. It is a disgraceful stain on the conscience of our nation.

Fact: It’s hard to type when your fingers are trembling with rage.

UPDATE II: A couple of trolls got zapped. Wombat seems to be offline today, so I had to wield the troll-hammer myself, especially since one of these was a false-flag moby troll — the very worst kind, worse even than concern trolls. The comments are moderated and, while the proprietors obviously do not approve of everything in the comments (hell, I never even see most of them), there are certain lines that shall not be crossed, and vicious creatures who use bogus identities for deliberate evil will be zapped. If necessary, you will be IP-banned.

Go troll somewhere else, you monstrous fucktards.

Category: Culture, Education, Sex

Comments

301 Responses to “Washington Post Publishes Jailbait Apologist (Ain’t I Done Told You So?)”

rmnixondeceased
August 31st, 2013 @ 12:59 pm

Heh. I wonder if this Psalm is where Spielberg got the notion …
demsRliars
August 31st, 2013 @ 12:59 pm

RT @rsmccain: .@QueenofSpain FACT: @washingtonpost is an active agent of evil; no decent person would work there. . http://t.co/bUtEHVNwAZ …
rmnixondeceased
August 31st, 2013 @ 1:00 pm

As I said, a “trial-balloon”.
hachie1
August 31st, 2013 @ 1:03 pm

Well shucks…Maybe mr. rambold nailed ‘lil besty when she was a freshman. Hope she didn’t have any ‘bruised feelings’, but the ‘damaged’ part seems obvious. Imho.
Fareedi al Laayla al Qakhaul
August 31st, 2013 @ 1:05 pm

In my state, physicians and nurses are also mandated reportors…
joethefatman
August 31st, 2013 @ 1:07 pm

Thanks, though at least once a week the in-laws want to know when I’m going to apply for SS, since I’m technically disabled.. I keep telling them I ain’t no leach. So I’m a house husband.
ChandlersGhost
August 31st, 2013 @ 1:12 pm

You actually sleep?
joethefatman
August 31st, 2013 @ 1:13 pm

Texas teachers and school employees as well as medical persons are required to do so.
Wombat_socho
August 31st, 2013 @ 1:16 pm

Yes, but my hours are weird.
ChrisDavis2011
August 31st, 2013 @ 1:29 pm

Remember grasshoppper, Jeff Bezos is no dummy. Story clicks = ad revenue, and sleaze sells.
Buffalobob
August 31st, 2013 @ 1:34 pm

Betsy, I don’t care what your sexual orientation is, you’ll never paint my house.
ChrisDavis2011
August 31st, 2013 @ 1:35 pm

Ms. Krasik promotes and I suspect prefers sex with adolescents simply because she has found adults are difficult to manipulate.

Of course, it could be much simpler – adolescent boys, just beginning to develop the own perceptions of beauty and desire, are an easy target for a woman a man would avoid.

(sorry this was pimped from Vets2you’s post on AT.com)
Fareedi al Laayla al Qakhaul
August 31st, 2013 @ 1:42 pm

In light of the events in this discussion earlier, I rather regret my initial reply. And I hope my sarcasm and reference weren’t too subtle and nuanced. Given the gravity of the matter at hand (anger and trembling fingers!), perhaps this is the wrong time and place for me to amuse only myself with such inappropriate silliness…
rmnixondeceased
August 31st, 2013 @ 1:48 pm

Heh. Your comments were (and remain) mildly sarcastic and mocking. Much less than what was merited …
Joe Dokes
August 31st, 2013 @ 1:49 pm

You didn’t. She did.
Alessandra
August 31st, 2013 @ 1:49 pm

First thing that came to mind when I read the article! God, liberals are slime of people. 80% of the sex abuse cases in the CC were with adolescent boys. Not only does the MSM repeatedly lie about it and paint the majority of the victims as little kids (read girls), but they call the priests “pedophiles” – certainly not homosexual pedophiles.

Because “homosexuality has nothing to do with pedophilia” – except every time it does.

But obviously if it’s a liberal turd of a teacher sexually exploiting and molesting adolescents, then it’s not “pedophile teachers.” Then it’s sane adults and freedom and progress.

And if you disagree, you’re a bigot.

Has the APA said it’s all normal yet?
rmnixondeceased
August 31st, 2013 @ 1:50 pm

Heh. You order a nice pale blue with cobalt blue accents and she paints it a horrid puce … because #ShutUp.
Alessandra
August 31st, 2013 @ 1:51 pm

You can’t keep a good dead person down! 🙂
Joe Dokes
August 31st, 2013 @ 1:52 pm

How come I’m always in the can when there’s a good stompin.
rmnixondeceased
August 31st, 2013 @ 1:53 pm

Less fiber in your diet may help …
Alessandra
August 31st, 2013 @ 1:57 pm

Followed by arguing that child porn is therefore legit
ChrisDavis2011
August 31st, 2013 @ 1:59 pm

Oh how I have missed your commentary on our favorite dildo spinning teen lesbian’s new adventures, sorry to post off topic!
Alessandra
August 31st, 2013 @ 2:00 pm

Mostly there aren’t any real feminists left. The majority of feminists today are women too deformed to have a healthy relationship with men, so they turn to women and call themselves “lesbians,” the newest American cultural fetish, and obviously why would the mere fact that girls should be protected from pedophilia stand in the way of their perverted desires?
rmnixondeceased
August 31st, 2013 @ 2:03 pm

Did you work and pay taxes, a portion of which was FICA and Medicare taxes? I know you did, thus, if that persisted for the requisite 40 quarters, you are “vested” in the Social Security ponzi scheme and for you to receive SSDI would not be an “entitlement” as most government bribes are deceptively called. You are actually entitled to receive SSDI by dint of having paid in the required years the required percentage of your earnings. If it was Prudential or Mutual of Omaha that had received your payments instead of the federal waste-machine, I’m sure you would have filed by now, so go ahead and file for what you are due, you’ve paid for it.
rmnixondeceased
August 31st, 2013 @ 2:04 pm

The slippery slope theory proven.
Alessandra
August 31st, 2013 @ 2:05 pm

Hi Chris! Been busy reading and blogging (aside from working 🙁

I guess I’m behind with the latest!!!

And thanks for flattering me! 🙂
rmnixondeceased
August 31st, 2013 @ 2:06 pm

APA as in “Always Protecting Assclownery”?
Alessandra
August 31st, 2013 @ 2:11 pm

As is major normalizers of pedophilia If interested check out this serious, but very worthwhile reading article about the invidious and shameless history of the APA:

“But then a few years later, in the DSM-IV, the APA changed its criteria in a way that made room
for the psychologically normal type of pedophile.
A person who molested children was considered to have a psychiatric disorder only if his actions “caused clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational or other important areas of functioning.” In other words, a man who molested children without remorse, and without experiencing significant impairment in his social and work relationships, could be diagnosed–at least theoretically–as a
“psychologically normal” type of pedophile. NARTH brought that DSM shift to public attention.

http://narth.com/docs/pedcrisis.html
JoeD
August 31st, 2013 @ 2:19 pm

Because “homosexuality has nothing to do with pedophilia” – except every time it does.

Except when it doesn’t as the majority of cases, especially in the schools, are committed by heterosexual females with opposite sex students. But you keep carrying on your gross crusade against homosexuality and homosexual persons. I’ve read your hateful, arrogant bullshit elsewhere too and it’s clear you’re cut from the same cloth as Himmler. Please die.
rmnixondeceased
August 31st, 2013 @ 2:20 pm

More of the infiltration of Marxist thought insidiously infecting our society and culture.
John50
August 31st, 2013 @ 2:21 pm

Ah! Such “Christian compassion”! Jesus would be proud! Now go shove your head back up your ass and wait for the rapture douchebag. And like I said the article is framed as a partisan issue when it isn’t.
MeToo
August 31st, 2013 @ 2:27 pm

Yeah, those that “believe in morality” are acting hysterical and violently like those that “believe in morality” have been doing throughout human history from the inquisition to the Salem Witch Trials to 9/11. Point is, she’s right in the sense that it’s a nuanced issue and not one where “rapist” should be applied across the board. I know you fear those kind of scary thoughts and they lead to a “slippery slope” but you can’t deny it either.
JeffS
August 31st, 2013 @ 2:27 pm

True, save that I won’t reward the Washington Compost with more clicks.
patdissent
August 31st, 2013 @ 2:28 pm

http://t.co/qywnmL3Chl The end game of #Liberals here? Making *witholding* of consent illegal. Nothing else makes sense. @rsmccain
patdissent
August 31st, 2013 @ 2:29 pm

http://t.co/qywnmL3Chl @rsmccain, the end game for #Liberals here is, in so many words, legalizing rape. #WarOnWomen
rmnixondeceased
August 31st, 2013 @ 2:30 pm

Damn!
Katie Scarlet
August 31st, 2013 @ 2:31 pm

Some in the Church can be a little “fuzzy” on this too. As long as I live I will never forget Cardinal George saying at a press conference, at the height of the priest scandals, that there is a difference between a priest having sex with a young boy and priest having a few manhattans and grabbing the breast of a teenage girl.

As the mother of two high-school girls in his

Archdiocese at the time I almost put a shot through the TV.
Alessandra
August 31st, 2013 @ 2:31 pm

Oh so you think homosexuals sexually torturing, abusing and molesting kids is a banality?

the degree of harm that a sexual abuser does to a child depends on the group the abuser belongs to?

If it’s your ilk, then it’s OK, if it’s heterosexuals, then it’s a problem?

You’re clearly cut from the same cloth as every single homosexual abuser who hates the effect of life’s most powerful disinfectant: the truth. You’re the enabler of every Frank Lombard, James Rennie, and Jerry Sandusky.

Take your Himmler accusations idiocy and hang yourself with it. Society will be a better place for it.
rmnixondeceased
August 31st, 2013 @ 2:33 pm

Just because you interpret it as such? FOAD shithead. Christ is proud of his folowers who make mockery and hold in disdain the agents of the Evil One. We are given the tools and talents for a reason. Empty-headed micro-cephalic idiots like you that have no cogent argument and cannot engage in critical thinking are dependent on the narrative provided by minions of Satan for their screeds deserve nothing more.
Now go away before I taunt you again fuckwit …
rmnixondeceased
August 31st, 2013 @ 2:34 pm

Just because you interpret it as such? FOAD shithead. Empty-headed micro-cephalic idiots like you that have no cogent argument and cannot engage in critical thinking are dependent on the narrative provided by minions of Satan for their screeds deserve nothing more.
Now go away before I taunt you again…
Alessandra
August 31st, 2013 @ 2:35 pm

The CC has many corruption problems, and it’s infested with homosexual clergy; they’re bringing it down

And this Pope, read my blog if you want to know what I think:

http://alessandrareflections.wordpress.com/2013/08/08/the-new-pope-the-catholic-church-and-homosexuality-a-fish-rots-from-the-head-down/
RMNixonDeceased
August 31st, 2013 @ 2:35 pm

“Just because you interpret it as such? FOAD shithead. Christ is proud of his followers who make…” — rmnixondeceased http://t.co/0k5Pf2kUVw
rmnixondeceased
August 31st, 2013 @ 2:37 pm

I don’t deny you wish that was the situation pedophile.
JBinRC
August 31st, 2013 @ 2:40 pm

Washington Post Publishes Jailbait Apologist (Ain’t I Done Told You So?) : The Other McCain http://t.co/Ch27s0i0dY via @rsmccain
Alessandra
August 31st, 2013 @ 2:49 pm

I think it’s worse. It’s more than simply a question of manipulation. Because, think about it – what kinds of thoughts and attitudes does one have to have in one’s mind to consider a kid as a sex target? There is no way you can even consider targeting a kid for sex without destroying an entire approach that requires you view them with dignity and respect. And also sex, which for liberal pigs, is something severed from marriage, and all that a marriage relationship demands. Therefore sex is nothing more than a dehumanized masturbation with an Other that is there to serve their needs and to provide the cheap release/kicks that liberals think of as sex.

It’s like prostitution sex without exchanging any money.

And that aside from all the emotional and psychological manipulation, as you mention, that is involved with a kid. An adult that claims to be having an “adult” relationship with a child is a pedophile (someone too psychologically deformed to realize that difference and recognize their own emotional troubles).
ChrisDavis2011
August 31st, 2013 @ 2:55 pm

Oh Alessandra, your eloquence is surpassed by none, and I for one am grateful you have been called to the battle of the culture war.

Write on dear friend, write on.

( ps – your blog is tagged Favorite in my Favorites list )
rsmccain
August 31st, 2013 @ 2:55 pm

RT @MelissaTweets: The Pointy Heads: Justifying Pedophilia and Normalizing the Depraved. http://t.co/bmix3txt80
Rosalie
August 31st, 2013 @ 2:58 pm

“Honestly, I feel like I’m living in an alternate universe.”
Since Obama, I feel that way too.
rsmccain
August 31st, 2013 @ 2:59 pm

RT @patdissent: http://t.co/qywnmL3Chl @rsmccain, the end game for #Liberals here is, in so many words, legalizing rape. #WarOnWomen
Alessandra
August 31st, 2013 @ 3:28 pm

Indeed I have been called. Thanks for the kind words, friend.