Natalie Lynn Webb
Natalie Lynn Webb, 30, of Elk City, Oklahoma, is being held on $2 million bond after her arrest last month on sex abuse charges:
Webb’s 9-year-old son told investigators that his 8-year-old brother and two 3-year-old sisters were repeatedly raped by their mother as other men and women looked on, according to the [Dec. 18 affidavit]. The boy told police that he saw his sisters resist as their mother dragged them into a room, then he could hear his sisters screaming and crying. Police also wrote that the boy told them he saw his mother using a foreign object in the abuse and that people may have paid his mother to watch the abuse.
One of Webb’s 3-year-old daughters corroborated her brother’s interview, telling investigators that it felt “nasty” when she was being molested, according to the affidavit. The 9-year-old said he also saw his brother being abused, but was able to avoid being sexually abused himself by running and hiding in a dumpster. In interviews with police, Webb denied sexually molesting her children. . . .
Webb told authorities that she often took methamphetamine and sold it out of her house; the 9-year-old described seeing needles around the house.
Webb admitted to authorities that she sometimes traded her food stamps for meth. During past interviews included in the affidavit, she demanded to take a polygraph test to prove that she had not sexually molested her children. In late November, Webb told officer Steve Bonds, of the Beckham County Sheriff’s Office, that she did not want to talk with the polygraph examiner after the examiner told her she failed the test. . . .
According to the affidavit, Webb has past felony convictions for child endangerment and possession of a controlled substance, along with misdemeanor convictions of unlawful possession of paraphernalia, bogus checks and unauthorized use of a credit card.
Just a meth-addicted mother raping her own children for drug money. Nothing to see here. Move along.
God help us all. Meth is evil, but that is no excuse for this.
You are correct. And she should get life in prison, only because they’ll never send her to the chair….
Sorry, But I would like to get my hands around her neck, Normally I wouldn’t hurt a fly,But in this case, Like I said ,Sorry!
Not to worry , she will burn in hell. Let her live out her miserable life in prison.
I am absolutely Pro Life and it’s incidents like this that test my resolve. Let me clarify: I do not think these children would have been better off not being born (aborted), but this “Mother” doesn’t deserve the Death Penalty – let her live out her natural, shameful existence in the Pen.
There comes a point when an individual commits a crime so horrifying that the normal rules no longer apply. In these individual cases, and under the most strict of conditions, an District Attorney should have the ability to approach a judge and under writ apply to void Constitutional Protections in order to invoke Summary Execution. This is one of those times.
The ends justify the means, truth is situational, I did it for the children … Hater, whatchoo looking at!!!!!
We don’t know that the woman had her children raped. We know that a police authority arrested her for alleged evils, and we also know that its quite easy to get children to say almost anything.
Remember the manias of the 1980’s including the McMartin Preschool & Gerald Amirault cases:
http://www.amazon.com/No-Crueler-Tyrannies-Accusation-Witness/dp/0743228405
(Buy it through RSM’s Amazon link.)
She’d live it in solitary. Other cons would kill her for doing what she did to kids.
I think sometimes they (the Jailers) think this stuff through and think, “Hmm, she needs to be in the Gen Pop”, and allow “nature” to take its course.
It’s Oklahoma, not a blue state. She’ll spend many, many years in the prison in Vinita. What happens to the kids may be another horror: grandparents or foster families. Bigger question is: who were the devils who paid her to rape her kids?
There is an affidavit in the case that I have not seen, but which may detail more evidence than is presented in any of the news accounts published so far. Yes, I am aware of the McMartin Preschool case, and am aware that children sometimes lie. On the other hand, I’ve got a hunch that there must have been some evidence of abuse beyond the testimony of children for them to bring charges that would cause a judge to impose a $2 million bond. In all likelihood, this case will result in a plea bargain, and at the time of sentencing we will get some idea of what the defendant admits.
There is an affidavit in the case that I have not seen, but which may detail more evidence than is presented in any of the news accounts published so far. Yes, I am aware of the McMartin Preschool case, and am aware that children sometimes lie. On the other hand, I’ve got a hunch that there must have been some evidence of abuse beyond the testimony of children for them to bring charges that would cause a judge to impose a $2 million bond. In all likelihood, this case will result in a plea bargain, and at the time of sentencing we will get some idea of what the defendant admits.
Let’s review… This monster was well known to several government agencies for some time, “red flags” all over the place, and none had cause, reason, or authority to act until it was too late… Is this what really went wrong?
Let’s review… This monster was well known to several government agencies for some time, “red flags” all over the place, and none had cause, reason, or authority to act until it was too late… Is this what really went wrong?
Okay, this is trivial, but what’s with those eyebrows? Is that a thing now?
McMartin? You mean the one where pedo-pornographers Paul and Shirley Eberle were brought in as experts on “false memory”? Where the defense’s investigator (who had come to believe the children, instead of the accused) “committed suicide” the night before he was supposed to give testimony?
McMartin? You mean the one where pedo-pornographers Paul and Shirley Eberle were brought in as experts on “false memory”? Where the defense’s investigator (who had come to believe the children, instead of the accused) “committed suicide” the night before he was supposed to give testimony?
It might be. I’m always careful when hearing about cases where kids are talking about sexual attacks. They can be influenced by investigators and there are more than enough big cases in the past that have proven the unreliability. It is a very dicey process and the wrong interviewer or investigator can screw it up.
Sadly, people end up in jail for decades before the truth comes out.
I’d ask if the police have evidence from the onlookers. Are there adult witnesses? Are there photographs? Did she charge for them to look? (That’s been done.)
The 3yr old is out as a witness to anything. She’s just too young.
The boys could be lying to get out of the hell they are in with a tweaker mother, and I don’t blame them. They could be telling the truth and I hope the detectives did their jobs obtaining evidence. What did she use to “rape” them? A spoon, a rod, something physical? If so, get the DNA off the object. She’ll have a hard time explaining internal fluids left on a spoon handle.
That said, the crimes she has committed against them should be enough to land her useless rear end in jail and the kids in foster homes forever.
Hey, could this be an argument against the libertarian theory that all drug use is victimless and should be legal?
Just saying…
It might be. I’m always careful when hearing about cases where kids are talking about sexual attacks. They can be influenced by investigators and there are more than enough big cases in the past that have proven the unreliability. It is a very dicey process and the wrong interviewer or investigator can screw it up.
Sadly, people end up in jail for decades before the truth comes out.
I’d ask if the police have evidence from the onlookers. Are there adult witnesses? Are there photographs? Did she charge for them to look? (That’s been done.)
The 3yr old is out as a witness to anything. She’s just too young.
The boys could be lying to get out of the hell they are in with a tweaker mother, and I don’t blame them. They could be telling the truth and I hope the detectives did their jobs obtaining evidence. What did she use to “rape” them? A spoon, a rod, something physical? If so, get the DNA off the object. She’ll have a hard time explaining internal fluids left on a spoon handle.
That said, the crimes she has committed against them should be enough to land her useless rear end in jail and the kids in foster homes forever.
Hey, could this be an argument against the libertarian theory that all drug use is victimless and should be legal?
Just saying…
I trust Dorothy Rabinowitz’ reporting on this issue: the McMartin case was an outrage against justice. Her meticulous reporting is more credible than your talk of pedo-photographer and the like.
I actually think that for some individuals, the terribleness of the accusation is a factor making the charge more likely to be true.
It’s as if Guilty = .5.
Thus:
A somewhat bad charge (e.g., theft) is .25
X a likelihood (evidence) of .5 = only .25, i.e., NOT GUILTY.
But a horrifically bad charge (child rape) is 1 X a likelihood (evidence) of .5 = .5, i.e.,
GUILTY.
Fair enough. I know that you don’t spout off, and that you would know of some significant evidence – besides the bare testimony of toddlers – before posting on this case.
One minor amendment: The problem is not just that kids lie, but also that they tell the truth as they come to see it after talking with police and agents of the police. They’re hyper-suggestible.
She has teeth. Color me amazed.
Running a rape kit is the usual thing to do, along with a physician’s exam.
They should send her to that prison in Turkey for the criminally insane.
Great eyebrows.
Out here in rural America these kinds of cases are on the rise. And they get weirder all the time. It’s not just the fact that the drugs are “available” that has driven the problem. (It’s 2014: Drugs are available everywhere, especially where people think they aren’t.)
The problem is that rural American backroads have become an immensely long, winding trailer park of welfare recipients. The low cost of living, and the easy availability of welfare funds, factored with the lack of high-wage jobs and minimal police presence makes it so that people flock to the hinterlands to spend the ever-shortening “rest of their lives” as meth heads.
Welfare offices in rural America are like palaces compared to places people have to go in the high-population density place. Many of them are new, and under the past four Presidents, have expanded operations significantly.
Unsurprisingly, the workers are rewarded for how many people they get ON welfare, not OFF.
I just noticed the eyebrows. She looks the the front end of a Fokker Dr.1.
Brevity is the soul of twit
I was thinking the same thing. For someone so cranked out of her mind that she would rape her own kids for money, she doesn’t fit the dry-skinned sucked-in cheek missing teeth template. What she does have are two of the weirdest eyebrows I’ve ever seen. Did she shave or pluck them to look like that, or did she burn off the rest of them in some unfortunate accident with a glass pipe?
For the children’s sake, I hope this is somewhat a big misunderstanding, more Paula Poundstone than McMartin Preschool.
Speaking of McMartin: We will likely never know exactly what happened in that case, but the stories the children told and the adults believed were so outrageous (start with the non-existent underground tunnel supposedly to shuttle the kids out for rape by strangers) there’s no way the burden of proof could’ve been met.
Medicaid pays for dentures.
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The Godless paradise that the liberals have been telling us about is just is a wonderful as I thought it would be
Nice eyebrows.
She doesn’t seem to be upset by the fact that she’s being charged with such horrible crimes judging from the big smile in her booking photo,I’d say that pretty much sums up the fact that she’s a psycho bi tch that needs to be tortured and put down like a rabid dog.
People that cook meth,sell meth,and do meth need to be executed when found guilty,meth is the most horrible drug to have ever been created.People that perpetrate crimes like this “woman” did need to be tortured and executed in the public square.
I suspect her teeth are false.
What part of rural America do you come from?I’ve lived in rural America all of my life and have never seen anything like this.
“part” doesn’t matter. It’s a factor throughout rural America. Just search on meth and your own county. You’re likely to find some really strange stuff. Doesn’t mean it’s as “bad” as this particular case. But you’ll see case after case of how it destroys homes, and leaves kids in jeopardy.
Tom Delay did the same thing – the big smile – and the charges against him were eventually proved to be farcical. When you’re given a post-arrest mugshot, you know that the mugshot will be released to the public, damaging your reputation. So you might try to mitigate the damage (at least a little) by smiling, rather than adopting the typical sullen I-got-caught mugshot pose.
I don’t know what the woman did. You don’t either, so all I’m advocating is that we remain genuinely open to the possibility that she is innocent until we get evidence – not a police spokesman’s statements, but actual evidence – to the contrary. That’s the standard that free people should adopt generally, not merely inside a court of law.
She failed the polygraph test, that she demanded to take, in order to “prove she didn’t molest the children” according to the article. That’s a bit incriminating, wouldn’t you say?
As you’ve taken half a second to prove.
Bravo.
I meant the eyebrows, obviously.