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Pedophile ‘Schemed to Elude Justice’

Posted on | April 30, 2014 | 27 Comments

Allegedly, I hasten to add. However, the phrase quoted in the headline doesn’t appear in this San Francisco Chronicle article:

A well-known Livermore [California] golf coach charged with 75 felony counts alleging that he molested children is now facing accusations that he tried from jail to hire a hit man to kill three alleged victims, authorities said Tuesday.
Andrew Michael Nisbet, 32, wrote letters from Santa Rita Jail in Dublin expressing his interest in having them “taken care of,” Alameda County district attorney’s Inspector Jeff McCort wrote in a court affidavit. . . .
A search of Nisbet’s jail cell uncovered driving directions to the home of the alleged victim in Pleasanton and “many other letters” from Nisbet to the informant discussing the murder-for-hire plot, according to McCort. . . .
Nisbet was arrested in December and had originally been charged with 65 felonies, including lewd acts with a child, oral copulation of a child, sending harmful matter and arranging a sexual meeting with a minor. Authorities said Nisbet sexually assaulted several boys between the ages of 12 and 17 between 2009 and 2012.
Prosecutors later added 10 more felony charges, including allegations that he possessed child pornography.
He now faces three felony counts of solicitation of murder.

Hat-tip to Stephen Sheiko on Twitter, who seems to think this story should remind us of someone we know. Allegedly.



27 Responses to “Pedophile ‘Schemed to Elude Justice’”

  1. WJJ Hoge
    April 30th, 2014 @ 2:34 pm

    That part about trying to arrange a hit on a prosecutor is vaguely familiar …

  2. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    April 30th, 2014 @ 2:34 pm

    Golf coach? Imagine that.

  3. Mm
    April 30th, 2014 @ 2:38 pm

    I knew this couldn’t be about Bill. He is currently tweeting about fellating dogs. Karoli chose … poorly.

  4. Anon Y. Mous
    April 30th, 2014 @ 3:09 pm

    Pedophile ‘Schemed to Elude Justice’

    You’re right that the ‘Schemed to Elude Justice’ does not appear in the linked piece. However, neither does it appear in their headline. You have quotes around those 4 words of your headline, so I’m guessing it used to be in their headline, but they changed it. If not, I don’t understand what you are trying to impart with the quotes.

    Another observation about your headline: the linked piece also does not contain the word ‘pedophile”. Not in the headline or in the body of the piece. That’s probably because the crimes he is accused of do not amount to pedophilia. While the alleged activity is certainly criminal, pedophilia is related to prepubescent children, which is not the case here. “Pederast” would be an accurate descriptor of the criminal, assuming he is guilty.

  5. Anon Y. Mous
    April 30th, 2014 @ 3:12 pm

    I just noticed that you describe your link as a SF Chronicle article. However, the link goes to a SF Gate piece.

  6. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    April 30th, 2014 @ 3:16 pm

    I know Pederasts are very careful to make that distinction, less they be defamed by association with Pedophiles.

  7. Anon Y. Mous
    April 30th, 2014 @ 3:21 pm

    I know it cuts zero ice with some people, but I think there is a big difference between an adult molesting a 6 yo or a 14 yo. I’m not saying that there shouldn’t be laws against the latter, but I believe that messing around a 6 yo is much, much worse than messing around with a 14 yo. And, since I believe that, I do not think it is appropriate to be sloppy with language and name someone who molests a 14 yo with the word that is used to describe the person that molests a 6 yo. Words have meanings, and even when speaking of criminals, it does not help the discussion to falsely label someone.

  8. robertstacymccain
    April 30th, 2014 @ 3:24 pm

    Perhaps you could Google the phrase?

  9. Mm
    April 30th, 2014 @ 3:27 pm

    Like falsely accusing pederast Catholic priests of being pedophiles. No, I’m not being snarky.

  10. Anon Y. Mous
    April 30th, 2014 @ 3:30 pm

    Actually, I would say yes, that would be the same. I don’t think I get your point. If someone is a pedophile, well then, by all means, call them a pedophile. But, if they are a pederast, then no, don’t call them a pedophile, call them a pederast. The point would apply to everyone, priests and non-priests alike.

    It’s not all that complicated.

  11. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    April 30th, 2014 @ 3:33 pm

    It is not appropriate to be sloppy with language when a sexual (alleged) criminal is so careful to mitigate his perversions with teens as opposed to children.

  12. Anon Y. Mous
    April 30th, 2014 @ 3:34 pm

    LOL. OK, got you. You were referring to a previous piece of your own. I think I did read the piece at the time, but I didn’t memorize it or anything, so I didn’t get the reference. You could have at least given a link to tip us off! For anyone else who maybe interested:

  13. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    April 30th, 2014 @ 3:34 pm

    Harry Reid, are you ears itching?

  14. K-Bob
    April 30th, 2014 @ 3:41 pm

    I’m not reading it until it’s in the SacBee.

  15. Anon Y. Mous
    April 30th, 2014 @ 3:41 pm

    I doubt it is carefulness. It is more likely a difference in what attracts them. Some are attracted to young children, some to adolescents.

    But, whatever the reason, what matters is the behavior. If they stay away from prepubescent children, then they should not be labeled as a pedophile.

  16. K-Bob
    April 30th, 2014 @ 3:43 pm

    Let’s just accuse him of racism and let the NBA handle it.

  17. Dana
    April 30th, 2014 @ 4:23 pm

    I suppose it’s not odd that a pederast would “scheme to elude justice,” considering that justice could well be the rest of his miserable life in jail, and prison is frequently an unpleasant place for child molesters.

    But we know, know! that Mr Nisbet didn’t actually target boys; it’s just a coincidence that his victims were boys, and has absolutely nothing, nothing at all, to do with homosexuality.

  18. G Joubert
    April 30th, 2014 @ 4:27 pm

    That’s the real question, has the ever thought any racist thought or uttered any racist words. If so, then that does it for him.

    “Authorities said Nisbet sexually assaulted several boys between the ages of 12 and 17 between 2009 and 2012”

    Yes, there is a distinction between a pedarist and a pedophile. An adult fooling around with a 16y/o would be a pedarist. As a lawyer I once worked on a case of a 50y/o man wbo was caught tonguing the vagina of an 8 month old baby girl. That’s a clear example of a pedophile.

    But when we’re talking about 12 year olds, I say it’s closer to pedophilia.

  19. Dana
    April 30th, 2014 @ 4:34 pm

    There are different types of attractions to children, from pedophilia, which refers to prepubescent children, hebephilia, which refers to attractions to children in puberty (normally between 11 and 14 years of age) and ephebophilia (attraction to early post-pubescent children, 15 to 17 years old. And it’s certainly true that we frequently lump them all together as pedophilia, especially when talking about the law.

    But I am unpersuaded that we ought somehow to treat these things differently under the law; they ought to all be crimes, and ought to lock away the offenders for the rest of their (un)natural lives in prisons without air conditioning in Arizona. (I would settle for unheated prisons in the Aleutians.)

    But, wherever they are imprisoned, they should never, ever get out.

  20. Zohydro
    April 30th, 2014 @ 5:59 pm

    Whoa… Check out the site meter! TOM’s odometer is about to roll over!

  21. rather be anon
    April 30th, 2014 @ 7:12 pm

    I know who comes to mind when I read your very two last sentences. And he ALLEGEDLY had an old lady murdered because he wanted her out of his way for access to a young teen. Right afterwards, he DEFINITELY (not just allegedly, and in fact proven in court a couple of times) set off a bunch of bombs in Speedway, Indiana in a cold-blooded sociopathic effort to keep the police too busy to solve the murder. One of these bombs NOT-ALLEGEDLY ripped off a man’s arm and leg, which I guess happens sometimes when you put demolition materials in a gym bag, put blasting caps and a time-delay instrument on them, and … LEAVE THEM IN A HIGH SCHOOL PARKING LOT RIGHT AS A FOOTBALL GAME IS HAPPENING. Then he went on and, according to court testimony of at least two witnesses, hid some more of his bomb parts in the yard of one of the daughters of the lady he murdered. He fingered this household to federal law enforcement.

    Yeah, I’m sure he wishes his coverup attempt had “taken care” of the problems he caused. But instead, they’re lovingly detailed in his own biography written by Mark Singer of The New Yorker. I think I would not feel comfortable giving money to any charities run by this storied criminal, such as The Velvet Revolution, US. or the Justice Through Music Project. Especially if those charities took in millions of dollars, and the criminal we’re talking about seems to be living a lifestyle that is FAR beyond what anyone could afford on the paltry sums the charities are ALLEGEDLY paying him for his ALLEGED work there. Also he definitely owes like a couple million bucks to the widow of the man who picked up that gym bag.

  22. rather be anon
    April 30th, 2014 @ 7:17 pm

    LOL, I just googled it. Nice one McCain.

    April 30th, 2014 @ 7:33 pm

    Or you could be a bit less demanding when in anal mode. Try this on for size;

    “Stacy, where did you get ‘Schemed to Elude Justice’ from? I can’t find it.”

  24. Anon Y. Mous
    April 30th, 2014 @ 8:25 pm

    I made a demand? Looking at my comments, it appears you are referring to this: “If not, I don’t understand what you are trying to impart with the quotes.”

    That is not a demand. It is a mere statement that I didn’t understand what he was getting at. I don’t see how putting it in the form of a question is less demanding then the statement I made.

    Wait. Did I just make a demand of you by stating that I didn’t get that whole demand thing you were going on about? Hmmm…. Perhaps my demand was just negated by my later question.

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