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Who’s the Liberal: Hannity or Coulter?

Posted on | June 14, 2013 | 52 Comments

Sean Hannity has a bad habit of interrupting and hectoring guests he disagrees with and, in the case of the “Gang of Eight” immigration bill, Hannity has evidently decided that criticism of Marco Rubio is impermissible. This led to an interesting exchange Wednesday night:

Hannity asked [Ann Coulter] what she would do about the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants who are already in the United States.
“This is a total fraud and a fig leaf that the American people can’t sleep at night,” Coulter responded, “because the situation is exactly the same today as it was –”
“You’re not answering my question,” Hannity interrupted. “You’re like a liberal.”
Ooh! That got a reaction.
“No, you are like a liberal, making a silly argument,” Coulter retorted. “It’s a straw man argument. Nobody cares. This idea that it’s an emergency, it’s a crisis — it’s preposterous. The same thing will happen as is happening now.”

You can watch the video at ViralRead. And obviously, Coulter is right: Hannity is “like a liberal,” because he is letting his emotional empathy with Marco Rubio overwhelm facts and logic. Also, he’s “like a liberal,” interrupting and hectoring his guest.

 


Comments

52 Responses to “Who’s the Liberal: Hannity or Coulter?”

  1. Dai Alanye
    June 14th, 2013 @ 12:02 pm

    Right you are! With the exception of her backing Romney, which I blame on her new boyfriend, Coulter has walked the conservative line day in and day out for years. Hannity, while generally sound, is dead wrong if he backs Rubio.

  2. R. K. Delka
    June 14th, 2013 @ 12:04 pm

    A simple ONE point immigration plan:
    1) Build a fence.

  3. Wombat_socho
    June 14th, 2013 @ 12:10 pm

    We have a fence. As I learned in the Army, unless you cover an obstacle with fire, it’s only going to slow the enemy up a little bit.

  4. Jeanette Victoria
    June 14th, 2013 @ 12:12 pm

    Can’t stand either.

  5. thejenn999
    June 14th, 2013 @ 12:18 pm

    RT @smitty_one_each: TOM Who’s the Liberal: Hannity or Coulter? http://t.co/O2nu6OayEy #TCOT

  6. paulzummo
    June 14th, 2013 @ 12:25 pm

    Generally speaking, me neither, though Coulter is right on this specific issue. That said, Sean was right – Coulter didn’t really answer the question he asked and evaded. I’m sure she could have come up with a good response, but she basically changed the subject.

  7. Mm
    June 14th, 2013 @ 12:28 pm

    Interestingly, this sort of fits in with your premise about the Kate Hunt case, namely, that when presented with facts, people either (1) recognized that they were bamboozled, or (2) denied those facts and/or rationalized them in order to justify their emotional investment in the case.

    That is what is going on here. Hannity is rationalizing. I, like Coulter, admit that Rubio bamboozled me. At a time when the Obama regime’s multiple abuses of power should be investigated and stopped, he has given aid and comfort to those who seek to destroy America. And I say this as the child of hispanic immigrants. I will never vote or give support to Marco Rubio, collaborator.

  8. Matthew W
    June 14th, 2013 @ 12:30 pm

    Coulter was blowing Gov Crispy Kreme so long that I never want to hear her again.

    Has no credibility left.

  9. Mm
    June 14th, 2013 @ 12:31 pm

    Yup.

  10. Matthew W
    June 14th, 2013 @ 12:33 pm

    Same here.
    Hannity is a good conservative, but I hate his show format.

  11. Matthew W
    June 14th, 2013 @ 12:38 pm

    How can any intelligent, rational adult not understand that if the border is not secured, illegal immigration will continue.

  12. Matthew W
    June 14th, 2013 @ 12:40 pm

    Uh, she was in love with Crispy Kreme too

  13. trangbang68
    June 14th, 2013 @ 12:40 pm

    Hannity is a lightweight stooge, a butt boy for the RNC. He hasn’t had an original thought in his life. Coulter is a bomb thrower and gets it wrong sometimes, but at least she’s interesting

  14. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    June 14th, 2013 @ 12:54 pm

    Kris Kristiekreme–it is amazing Ann Keeps her figure. As for Hannity, he takes his orders from Ailes’ Curia. Corporate power in America loves cheap labor (and the are ignoring the long run).

  15. gastorgrab
    June 14th, 2013 @ 1:03 pm

    If we need to increase the US population, why wouldn’t we increase our quota of legal immigrants we allow into the United States instead of taking a chance on 11 million people who all have fake ID’s?

    Our legal immigration system would disallow criminals from participation once it identifies them. This amnesty bill gives many criminal aliens a ‘get out of jail free’ card. It purposely avoids identifying threats to society.

    Every way I look at this proposal I cant believe how stupid and reckless it sounds.

  16. Matthew W
    June 14th, 2013 @ 1:18 pm

    It’s not about population .
    It’s about expanding the democrat base and the welfare state

  17. gastorgrab
    June 14th, 2013 @ 1:34 pm

    I agree. It’s just another marketing tactic.

    I was demonstrating that even if we take their argument at face value, they’re still wrong.

    (That’s Jeb Bush’s latest argument, BTW)

  18. gastorgrab
    June 14th, 2013 @ 1:38 pm

    Fences only keep the honest people honest.

    Cut off their benefits. They cant steal anything if the vault is empty.

  19. robertstacymccain
    June 14th, 2013 @ 1:48 pm

    BTW, I’m glad you see the parallels there and — you may be pleased to learn — I’ve been working on a post about the Politics of Feeling.

  20. Dai Alanye
    June 14th, 2013 @ 2:06 pm

    Jeb looks more and more like the Anglo-Rubio clone.

  21. hrh40
    June 14th, 2013 @ 3:36 pm

    Hannity is a good Republican.

    Exhibit A: What Rubio is doing is not conservative. And yet Hannity lets Rubio use his radio and TV show to shill for it.

    Exhibit B: Karl Rove is not conservative. And yet Hannity lets him use his radio and TV show to shill for the Rovian Republican party.

    Hannity, Rove, and Rubio are Rovian Republicans.

    Not conservatives.

    (BTW: I don’t care what Hannity’s political registration is.)

  22. hrh40
    June 14th, 2013 @ 3:41 pm

    If you understand that Rubio is where he is because he is bought and sold by Jeb Bush than you begin to see the carbon copy Big Government Bush Boy that Rubio was, is, has always been, and will always be.

    He and Rove are products of the Bush Big Government internship program.

    Dana Perino as well.

  23. daPenguin
    June 14th, 2013 @ 3:46 pm

    up for grabs who is the most liberal. But would not trust either one farther than I could throw them.

  24. Garym
    June 14th, 2013 @ 4:15 pm

    Yup yup.

  25. K-Bob
    June 14th, 2013 @ 4:16 pm

    The blonde chick sort of reminds me of Ann Coulter. I haven’t seen Ann for several years. I thought she moved to China or something. Is she back, or is this someone new?

  26. K-Bob
    June 14th, 2013 @ 4:17 pm

    If you eat dinner with Krispy, you have to be fast and be able to block really well, or you just won’t get enough to eat.

  27. Garym
    June 14th, 2013 @ 4:18 pm

    Maybe she was swept away with hurricane sandy.

  28. Finrod Felagund
    June 14th, 2013 @ 4:19 pm

    While there are multiple issues that I disagree with Ann Coulter on (most recently, they’re named Romney and Christie), I’d still choose her over Hannity. Coulter will actually engage on issues of substance and push them, whereas it seems to me that Hannity more floats along the stream of conservatives and Republicans, never getting on a bandwagon until it’s starting to get crowded.

  29. K-Bob
    June 14th, 2013 @ 4:21 pm

    Exactly.

    I want appropriate physical obstructions with drones, enfilade and manpower. That’s what I mean by “secure the border”. I never call for a “fence.”

    A fence is something you provide as a courtesy to the people outside, to protect them from the big dog inside.

  30. Dai Alanye
    June 14th, 2013 @ 4:56 pm

    Knock off the Dana Perino remarks–she’s cute.

    But to be serious, I’m a skeptic when it comes to ascribing everything to conspiracies. Looking at Rubio as simply another self-serving politician works quite well. As for the Bushes–nice guys but mistakenly idealistic and just a bit stoopid.

  31. thomas tencza
    June 14th, 2013 @ 5:04 pm

    I don’t care for either . They work for money and follow moneys wishes ..

  32. thomas tencza
    June 14th, 2013 @ 5:08 pm

    yep .enough said

  33. ajpwriter
    June 14th, 2013 @ 6:51 pm

    It’s not necessary to be a progressive in order to judge an argument entirely on it’s emotional empathy. But it helps.

    Anyone who can sit through more than five minutes of Hannity is tougher than me. His voice continuously evokes an AV Club nerd running for Class Secretary.

  34. Matthew W
    June 14th, 2013 @ 8:11 pm

    “He who eats the fastest, east the mostest.”

  35. Matthew W
    June 14th, 2013 @ 8:12 pm

    OK, I can accept that

  36. Matthew W
    June 14th, 2013 @ 8:13 pm

    Yup,yup,yup !!!!

  37. AnonymousDrivel
    June 14th, 2013 @ 8:43 pm

    The fence is a force multiplier. In and of itself just a speedbump. Backed by personnel and other tools, it’s a blockade.

    But cutting bennies and denying anchor-baby citizenship is the single best “wall” that could be enforced.

    And that’s why the powers that be Will. Not. Do. It.

  38. Garym
    June 14th, 2013 @ 9:01 pm

    Too busy hunting for voters.

  39. Matthew W
    June 14th, 2013 @ 9:43 pm

    False choice.
    Choose neither

  40. Patrick Carroll
    June 14th, 2013 @ 11:14 pm

    Hannity makes his money by being an attractive nuisance.

    He’d argue in favor of cannibalism, if it would make him enough money.

  41. Adjoran
    June 14th, 2013 @ 11:22 pm

    When Rush Limbaugh started out, he was not so well informed, just glib and funny. But he worked hard to educate himself on the history and principles of America and freedom.

    Hannity had the additional benefit of being a good-looking young Irish kid, and has cruised on that and his built-in Fox following.

    Any Republicans chasing the Myth of the Hispanic Vote should quit. If Romney had won 70% of the Hispanic votes cast in 2012, he not only wouldn’t have won the election, he wouldn’t even have won a single extra state.

  42. RichFader
    June 14th, 2013 @ 11:58 pm

    If you’re close enough to eat with Chris, you’re close enough to be eaten by Chris.

  43. Garym
    June 15th, 2013 @ 12:04 am

    I give you Mr. Creosote:

  44. Wombat_socho
    June 15th, 2013 @ 9:22 am

    Everybody makes mistakes. We keep throwing people out who make the occasional mistake, we’ll be certain-sure ideologically pure – and not winning any elections anywhere because there won’t be enough of us.

  45. gvanderleun
    June 15th, 2013 @ 12:25 pm

    Alas, Viral Read continues as one of the ugliest sites on the net. What is the major malfunction of whomever is overseeing this operation, Stacy.

    PS: The “reaction” choices all comingup with fat “0” isn’t helping either.

    Get some people who knowhow to do these sites on the project toot sweet or it will become just another blown-out Right Network when the money evaporates.

    Breitbart noted, over and over, that the Right just doesn’t have the creative chops to win. Quit proving him right with Viral Read.

    I’m beggin you!

  46. Bob Belvedere
    June 15th, 2013 @ 1:32 pm

    I agree. As Russell Kirk wrote:

    …For there exists no Model Conservative, and conservatism is the negation of ideology: it is a state of mind, a type of character, a way of looking at the civil social order.

    The attitude we call conservatism is sustained by a body of sentiments, rather than by a system of ideological dogmata. It is almost true that a conservative may be defined as a person who thinks himself such. The conservative movement or body of opinion can accommodate a considerable diversity of views on a good many subjects, there being no Test Act or Thirty-Nine Articles of the conservative creed.

    However, in this case, Miss Coulter is guilty of multiple transgressions over the last several years. There seems to be a pattern in her behavior that has formed. Perhaps she’s been bitten by the Pragmatic Tick.

  47. Bob Belvedere
    June 15th, 2013 @ 1:35 pm

    There are plenty of free and premium templates out there geared for a news site that would work much better, especially via WordPress.

  48. Matthew W
    June 15th, 2013 @ 5:06 pm

    Spot on about what’s her name

  49. K-Bob
    June 15th, 2013 @ 9:17 pm

    I like to see a pattern, like Bob is referring to. For example, one reason I could stomach Romney as, at the very least, worthy of being on the stage in a primary debate, is because he had established a pattern: He basically moved from progressive, pro-choice Republican toward the less-despicable form of Cotton Conservative, without backtracking.

    It’s not like he was ever going to be another Reagan, but at least he showed that he wasn’t as bad as Specter, Crist, McCain, or Chaffee.

    Newt seemed to be heading in the right direction, too, but caught too much blowback for his Pelosi ad and his Scozzafava endorsement. I wish to hell Newt had won the nomination instead of Romney, regardless of those things.

    It’s all pudding under the high chair now, though.

    After barack won in 2012, I will never vote for another RINO type again. We’ve already gone over the cliff, and there’s absolutely nothing to be gained by voting for any of the Jeb Bush or Chris Christie types. I don’t care if the next Dem opponent is a Muslim Stalinist: I shall not comply with the Republican party if they nominate another Romney-or-worse.

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