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‘Civil Rights’ = Death Threats

Posted on | April 23, 2012 | 41 Comments

Hey, remember when liberals were anti-lynching?

George Zimmerman released on bond
in Trayvon Martin killing

Los Angeles Times

Twitter lynch mob:
George Zimmerman is out on bail?
Let’s kill him!


If you’re old enough to remember when liberals were opposed to racism — and in favor of grammar and spelling — well, howdy, old-timer!


41 Responses to “‘Civil Rights’ = Death Threats”

  1. JeffS
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 9:15 am

    I must be really old…..I remember “liberals” being all about peace, love, and non-violence. 

    Good times, good times.

  2. smitty
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 9:25 am

    I am sure that #OccupyResoluteDesk will mount the Bully Pulpit to denounce this eliminationist rhetoric Real Soon Now.

  3. SDN
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 9:45 am

    “If you’re old enough to remember when liberals were opposed to racism”

    Not even Methuselah would qualify…. because liberals are only opposed to racism when that opposition helps them to acquire power.

  4. Anamika
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 9:51 am

     Please notice how many times “#OccupyResoluteDesk” has been used by people other than you who blog and comment at The Other Mccain blog.

    Google it,the top results link to (/link back to) your own blog posts at TOM.

    When that happens–when you are the only one that has been pimping that hash tag for a considerable amount time and no one other than you seems to show any interest in using it–you know what to do:

    Drop it already!

  5. Bob Belvedere
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 9:51 am

    ‘Real Soon Now’ in the sense most people mean, or in the sense anthropologists mean [which is, like, centuries]?

  6. Bob Belvedere
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 9:52 am

    The Left always has ulterior motives in ‘opposing’ racism – means to an end.

  7. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 9:53 am  The Last Refuge has the best analysis on the Zimmerman case.  

  8. smitty
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 9:55 am

    You so silly:
    (a) It’s funny on several levels. Do the research.
    (b) It pleases me, which is actually the sole requirement for the jape.
    (c) That tag is going to be traffic gold after Occupy Unmasked is released, and the dots between #Occupy and BHO are well connected in the public mind.

  9. Anamika
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 10:05 am

    Point (b) surpasses everything else. Call me  silly, but the facts on “#OccupyResoluteDesk” usage speak for themselves.

  10. Adobe_Walls
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 10:15 am

    Wasn’t that pretty much only when they were stoned?

  11. Adobe_Walls
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 10:22 am

    She’s just jealous, when I googled “#OccupyResoluteDesk” In the first entry 
    the text underneath is part of one of my comments. Keep up the good work!

  12. Anamika
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 10:30 am

    Right on!

    And it’s not as though Smitty has hit on some universal Truth or Reality or even a universal metaphor. What he has is a metaphor that works for HIM, and the Relative Reality that goes with that metaphor also works for him.

    Great! Bully for him. Except . . .

    If that were ALL there was to his story, it would go on happily ever after. But it’s not. The fly in the ointment is that he needs others’ relative realities to agree with his. Hence, the haranguing and whatnot against this or that to get those nasty others to believe as he does. Well, this is just a variety of Fundamentalism, wherein da Fun is not really existential, it’s merely Mental, depending as it does on others’ Conversions.

    To put it another way: “That’s my story and i’m stickin’ to it.” If i am sticking to it just for myself, well then maybe it’s just the right thing, no matter what anyone else says. But if i need to convert others, then it’s just another story, and you can be sure that it doesn’t work for me. It’s by definition not the Right Thing, because my happiness, inner peace, etc, is not self-sufficient. Basta!

  13. Anamika
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 10:35 am

     The above comment, in reply to Adobe.

  14. Anamika
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 10:39 am

    There are a few things to consider, and i imagine that they apply in some ways to many professed liberal, tolerant live-and-let-livers. We all have to deal sooner or later with fanatics and Fundies — literally, the fun dies — and how we do it will be the measure of our so-called tolerance.

     “Kill all fanatics” is a great self-parodying slogan and obviously doesn’t cut it. So . . . ?

    1. Regarding actions taken to promote tolerance, the yardstick is simple enough: If someone is acting in an intolerant or otherwise distasteful way, i can comment on it, share my views, etc, but to compel them to change is only appropriate, ie consistent with my professed tolerance, if what they are doing is pressuring others to come around to their ways. My enforcing tolerance is only valid if it reduces the amount of forcing done by them. Otherwise it just more intolerance.

    2. When does “only” commenting become enforcing? PERSISTENCE in comments in the service of some goal or ideology, in terms of quantity, stridency and consistency would suggest to me a kind of fanaticism, but a tolerant one has to be prepared to live with a certain amount of that. One place where persistence of this kind goes over the line, requiring “the forces of tolerance” to take a stand is when comments appeal to unconscious issues in a group mindset in order to influence them to join in the comments and make life more uncomfortable for the fanatic’s “victim.”

    Lots of generality here, time for an extreme example:

    the Southern lynch mob. With leering suggestions and the right buzz words, it was easy in the “good old days” to arrange for black men to get hanged outside the stream of official “justice,” and the rabble-rousers would not even have to touch a rope, others could be manipulated to do it. The same principles and dynamics apply to manipulation of nominal others who are gathered electronically and connected only by pixels, but the application may not be so obvious. So there is a learning curve, for everyone, including myself. Please be patient.

    To bring it back to the current cast of characters, we have a sort-of-prevailing general christian conservative outlook at this blog which is not really so terrible as group mindsets go, except when it is intolerant. That’s why i insist on diversity as much as circumstances permit, and advocate action (at times) on behalf of someone who doesn’t fit in.  

    One last thing (for now) that might be briefly mentioned is another criterion which would possibly be useful in determining the intolerance level of “only commenting,” and whether it might be “actionable,” and that is INSTIGATION. Who started the blaming and name-calling? How gratuitous was it, ie out of nowhere? Is the blaming in the service of division, competition, domination, or what? Not necessarily easy questions to answer sometimes, but other times they are.

    All be praised!

  15. Steve in TN
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 10:41 am

    For Anamika, superfluous use of the hastag #OccupyResoluteDesk. 

  16. ThePaganTemple
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 10:42 am

    When liberals seemed to honestly oppose racism, modern liberalism was in its teenage years, going through puberty, when teens are more likely to lash out at their parents and strike out against everything they believe in and stand for. Now that modern liberalism has entered its-well, I won’t say “mature”, just older and more settled phase, they’ve come back home to the racism of their mommas and poppas. They’ve just dressed it up in a different style of clothing, but if you look closely beyond the facade, its easy to see its the same old racism of their forebears.

  17. richard mcenroe
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 11:01 am

     Let us keep in mind the “Southern Lynch Mob” was a Democrat organization.

  18. ThePaganTemple
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 11:12 am

     All of your above comments, an attempt at bloviation and thread-hijacking.

  19. Adobe_Walls
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 11:31 am

    In what way do you imagine your “insistence on diversity” matters to anyone here?

  20. Wombat_socho
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 11:43 am

     Anthropologists, or science fiction fans. I suspect the latter stole it from the former, but there’s a lot more sarcasm when the latter use it.

  21. Adobe_Walls
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 12:21 pm

    I believe #OccupyResoluteDesk will stand the test of time. The fact that it’s generally under appreciated now doesn’t mean it will remain so.

  22. McGehee
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 1:12 pm

    When weren’t they?

  23. McGehee
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 1:14 pm

    ‘Real Soon Now’ in the sense of the economy improving under Obama.

  24. McGehee
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 1:15 pm

    Personally, I just call him #Occupant Obama.

  25. Adobe_Walls
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 1:54 pm

    Then in at least my usage it would be #Occupant Obamsky

  26. Adobe_Walls
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 1:58 pm

    At the risk of revealing too much “inside dope” back when most pot came from Mexico there was always a “dry” spell every summer.

  27. Adjoran
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 2:53 pm

    The main goal of an internet “troll” is to divert and disrupt the discussion of topics unfavorable to their side.  Notice how Anamika uses this technique over and over again:  in this thread, sidetracking the conversation from the leftists making actual overt death threats against a Hispanic man to a discussion of Smitty’s favorite hash tag.

    This isn’t “freedom of speech” any more than the leftists shouting down a conservative speaker are exercising theirs.  They can’t tolerate the truth; they recoil from it like a vampire from sunlight.

    Why is this troll allowed to operate so freely?

  28. JeffS
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 8:03 pm

     I believe that the KKK (a/k/a “Democrats unhappy with the 13th Amendment”) perfected lynching.

  29. Quartermaster
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 8:38 pm

    It’s another Brawley case. perhaps this time we will see criminal sanctions against the real perps and a few disbarments, but prolly won’t happen, alas. Corey needs to be Nifonged.

  30. David, Self Defense Retailer
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 9:48 pm

    I’m just wondering if this isn’t going to turn out like the London Riots.

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  32. Wombat_socho
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 10:23 pm

     No, because all our police are armed.

  33. JeffS
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 11:27 pm

    Because summary execution is frowned upon. 

  34. JeffS
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 11:35 pm

     In all seriousness……you are entirely correct.  Trolls exist to destroy an intelligent conversation.

    I imagine Stacy has to draw the (financial) line when it comes to moderation.  The tighter the security at a blog, the more admin overhead it takes, and that takes time and effort.  Wombat_Socho does a fair job. 

    Take Hot Air — how often do they open up registration for commenters? 

    Short of tighter registration, I see two general techniques for those not blessed with the ability of deleting trollish comments:

    1.  Ignore them when and where possible.  They seek an emotional response, so don’t give them one.   Even the paid shills get tired of being ignored.

    2.  When not possible, call the trolls out on their lies, bad logic, bigotry, etc., directly.  Do not ASK them, TELL them.  Mocking them can work wonders as well.

    And, yes, I’ve been known to fail to follow my own advice.

  35. JeffS
    April 23rd, 2012 @ 11:39 pm

     Not to mention, private ownership of functional firearms is actually legal in most of the United States, as is self defense. 

    (I am aware of the pitfalls thereof.  I’d rather tell it to the judge than be carried by six friends.)

  36. Adobe_Walls
    April 24th, 2012 @ 12:44 am


  37. ThePaganTemple
    April 24th, 2012 @ 6:35 am

    Another thing that’s fun to do if you are a blog owner or have admin privileges, is to edit what they say, change their comment to something foolish or nonsensical, or self-defamatory.

  38. DarthLevin
    April 24th, 2012 @ 7:31 am

    Go to Anamika for all your commenting needs. Because she cares so very, very much.

  39. Tennwriter's Future Clone
    April 24th, 2012 @ 9:36 am

    Indeed. Up here in the 23rd century we just call him #OccupyResoluteDesk in chitter-chatterage as most people think you’re swearing when you mind image ‘Obama’.

    I just came back in time to tell you this, and to say ‘buy Google’.

  40. Tennwriter
    April 24th, 2012 @ 9:52 am

    I tended to think Zimmerman was innocent, but I didn’t want to expose myself and the Right to rebuke if it turned out he was not.  It’s looking more likely he’s innocent.

    And the horror show of the Left is disgusting.  But I think there is a large element of bluff involved.  They are yelling and hammering their shields, trying to get us to cut and run so they can wreak havoc among the routed.

    But I don’t see us running.

    The only real danger is to Zimmerman, who I hope is hiding well.  We, on the right with spare cash inclined to donate, might want to start, not a legal defense fund, but a bodyguard defense fund.

    There is opportunity as well, as the Left is mostly bluffing.

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