Can Anyone Verify These Disturbing Allegations About Trayvon’s Family?

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A commenter on the earlier post wrote this:

Here’s something else you don’t know. From the age of 3 until age 15 or 16, Trayvon Martin lived NOT with Sybrina Fulton but with Tracy Martin, a known member of the Crips, and his then-wife Alicia Stanley-Martin, who was mentioned above. Alicia Stanley-Martin in that interview with Anderson Cooper said Trayvon spent 90% of his life in her home being raised with her two daughters from a previous relationship.
When Tracy Martin dumped Alicia for Brandy he sent Trayvon to live with Sybrina — a woman he hardly knew. The two didn’t get along at all. Sybrina kicked Trayvon out two days before he jumped Zimmerman.
Oddly, at that point Tracy was living with his sister because he’d dumped Alicia but hadn’t yet convinced Brandy to let him shack up with her and her son Chad. According to Trayvon’s text messages the plan was for him and Tracy to move in with Brandy soon but there was no definite date.
So Sybrina kicked Trayvon out knowing that Tracy had no home of his own, meaning Trayvon had no home to go to other than his aunt’s house where his father was staying.
Mother-of-the-year award material.
The part that gets me, however, is that Sybrina would let a known member of the Crips to raise her child from age three. I’m sorry but that’s too messed up for words.
You ought to check out Trayvon’s text messages, the released ones anyway. All evidence points to Tracy initiating Trayvon into the Crips, including purchasing illegal guns on the street. Yes, you read that correctly.
The text messages may be found at the website created and ran by Mark O’Mara. Look at the ten text message reports. Oh, and Tracy Martin’s Crip nickname is “Fruit.”

Is this true? The commenter references the “Third Supplemental Discovery” at George Zimmerman Legal Case, and says that all this information has previously been cited by The Last Refuge, a.k.a. The Conservative Treehouse. I find it difficult to believe that anyone — even the most biased liberal reporter at the New York Times — covering this case would look at that and say, “Irrelevant.”

As I’ve explained elsewhere, I didn’t pay much attention to this story when it broke, because in March/April 2012 I was covering the end of the GOP presidential primary campaign. Controversy about a shooting in Florida wasn’t really on my beat. So you’ll forgive me if I’m re-hashing anything everybody already knew. But . . . Trayvon’s father was a member of the Crips? Really? This is “irrelevant”?

Welcome to the New Normal, I guess.

 

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  3. So he didn’t meet the basic physical requirements of a law enforcement officer, but felt himself qualified to ignore the suggestions of a police dispatcher and confront an unarmed teenager? Does not compute.

  4. How did he know it was an “unarmed teenager?” And are you suggesting that to exercise self defense, we have to “meet the basic physical requirements of a law enforcement officer?”

  5. I saw some photos of the dad with Crips making signs… were on one of the conservative sites a day or so ago.

  6. Who effing cares? Is not having your child killed deserving of compensation? you people are sick monsters, and that’s all you’ll ever be.

  7. Trust me, we don’t ignore the Feds. We just wish the Feds would keep their hands out of non-Federal matters.

    They can bring a Federal lawsuit if they like. I’d love to see the grounds for such a lawsuit, and the names of the people paying for the lawsuit. Such lawsuits aren’t cheap.

  8. How you can make a blanket statement like that without actually knowing what we are about is..no wait, it’s typical.

  9. Not if your “child” (who is old enough to be in the military, I was at his age) attacks someone. Your problem seems to be that you can’t get through your head that Martin was a punk.

  11. Houston, we have a concern troll in the area. Please deploy the Super Wombat Anti-Troll System immediately.

  12. It depends, and screw you. We are not the caricatures in your mind you are apparently arguing with.

  13. Oh, it’s entirely relevant, Stacy. That’s why you have a sudden, heavy infestation of trolls. Sunlight is a great disinfectant.

  14. If you are driving around “patrolling” the neighborhood with a gun, yes, you should meet some basic requirements, including those of physical condition. Self defense would have applied if Trayvon had walked up to innocent Zimmerman, out walking his dog and demanded his wallet. Zimmerman ignoring police instructions and stalking Trayvon, yeah, not so much. If you’re so concerned about your own safety, don’t frigging stalk black teenagers, who we all know are scary. If you do, don’t claim you’re an innocent entitled to whine about self defense.

  16. I know he was unarmed because the only one who had the opportunity to dispose of a weapon after he was dead was Zimmerman, and frankly, if you think that, then you’re way more crazy than even I suspected of red staters.

  17. There was no stalking, which is a term of art and a crime. Zimmerman was in his own neighborhood, on his way to the story, not “on patrol,” when he saw someone who looked suspicious. Under your poorly defined standard, the people most in need of a firearm, such as women, the elderly, those living alone, and minorities, would have to pass a police physical fitness test to own one.

  19. Tell us how you feel about black people and Hispanics. Is your problem with Zimmerman that he wasn’t black enough to use lethal force to defend himself? Do you believe that blacks and Hispanics all think alike, as you obviously believe those who live in red states or happen to have some conservative political viewpoints do?

  20. YOU know that NOW. Only Martin knew that THEN. It’s also irrelevant. You really must get out more, the redstater in your head is causing you all sorts of cognitive issues.

  21. Unlike some of you conservative idiots, I don’t believe a person’s past has any bearing on whether they deserve to be murdered. If you think that’s true, if you really don’t believe in a government of laws and not off men, then you really need to leave the USA, because that’s one of our founding principles. This is why you people are sick — you think laws for white, “normal” people are OK while laws for “those people” really aren’t. I have no problems with people having an ideology, but yeah, it becomes difficult when it’s based in racial hatred. Just the fact that you dismiss all people of color as “looking for a handout” and not seeing how our treatment of them has led to unequal conditions is proof that you

  23. “Few things have ever made such a profound impression on me as
    Sowell’s analysis of liberalism as a philosophy rooted in the liberal’s narcissistic desire to believe he is the moral and intellectual superior of ordinary people.

    One of the consequences of this is the liberal’s quick resort to insults when confronted face-to-face by conservative arguments. Merely by disagreeing with liberalism, you see, you are categorized in the liberal mind as inferior, and if you should ever start winning an argument, this provokes the liberal to begin shouting insults: By calling you names, the liberal expects to discredit you, so that the merits of your argument can be ignored.” – Robert Stacy McCain, E-Mail to a Troll, http://theothermccain.com/2012/09/27/e-mail-to-a-troll/

  24. Your comment really should have stopped after “I’m really failing to see”, since your mind is made up and you refuse to be confused with facts.

  25. You don’t know us at all. And yet you presume to lecture us about rule of law and not of men. You, the one on the side of a blatantly political prosecution that happened to not go your way. Who probably supports any means necessary to “get” Zimmerman for this.

  27. Really? Then why would you say GZ was ordered by police to leave Martin alone when that clearly did not happen? Why would you ask why GZ didn’t use “those 45seconds” to go home when clearly during those 45 seconds Martin was repeatedly smashing GZs head against the sidewalk and telling him he was going to die that night?

    Listen to you, Mr. Tough Guy saying GZ is a pussy because he was getting the crap beat out of him by Martin to the point of fearing for his life. Aren’t you so macho behind the computer screen? Martin was about 4 inches taller, and probably quite a bit stronger than GZ, based on background testimony of GZ. But, you knew that, right?

  29. A thug was killed, Not a boy. If Martin hadn’t physically assaulted Zimmerman he would presumably be alive today.

  30. Poor dear, you need help. FL law isn’t materially different in regards to homicide OR self-defense than any other state. If you *feel* it is, please link two equivalent statutes and analyze the material difference between them, m’kay?

    Otherwise, shut your ignorant, hatey piehole.

  32. Martin should he ignored Zimmerman and walked home. But he didn’t and he died because he was an idiot.

  33. They would have to do an investigation (which they already did) to find out of Martin acted with racial bias (they found none). There is nothing the federal government can do. They investigated, they determined he wasn’t a racist. In fact, he is a “white hispanic” only to the media. If he were applying for college, Zimmerman would be considered “non-white Hispanic”.

  34. “you should meet some basic requirements” He had to pass a background check to get the permit. No state in the union has any requirements for neighborhood watch. That’s just dumb.

  36. have issues. I’m sorry, but as long as you’re denying how race affects your thinking, you’re a racist. The criteria for a smart man is looking at what he believes and pondering the ways he might be wrong, the criteria for an idiot is stopping at believing he is right.

  37. Everyone wears hoodies. What the heck is it with you race morons and hoodies?

    More hoodies are bought and worn by people who wouldn’t be considered “black” by you skin-color-obsessed leftists. Yet now you are somehow convinced that hoodies are a “black” thing?

    Your blinders are on so tight they meet.

  38. That’s why I tell folks the “down-ding” is a fake market choice. It should be up-vote only, just like a marketplace. Let the low-vote folks fester in their solitiude.

  41. This is the kind of comment that rightly upsets Trayvon’s defenders. Blaming the victim is sick and wrong, and putting him on trial is sick and wrong. I just don’t know how much clearer, or prima facie evidence of racism that can be.

  42. Why the need to lie about him “stalking?” Is it so important to use mob tactics to lynch a man that you’re willing to throw your credibility away?

    Once your credibility is gone, you don’t really have much else to fall back on.

    Hint: these allegations of yours were all proven false by the recording, the testimony, and the verdict. You have beclowned yourself.

  43. They can bring action under Title IX. This is what drives me nuts about cons — you tend to take every action of the feds you like as being legit while every action you don’t as not legit. I really hated a lot of actions GW Bush took, but I never challenged his executive powers to take them. Not liking what your political opponents do is not equivalent to finding them unconscionable.

  44. OK, PLEASE explain what, legally, the possibility of his involvement of his involvement in burglaries had to do with Zimmerman’s right to murder him, other than black teen hoodie oogah boogah OMG.

  45. This is exactly what I’m talking about with the insanity of you guys. You presume that Zimmerman would have had knowledge of Trayvon’s possible involvement in crimes — why? Because he was black? If not please tell me how Zimmerman would have known this and how it would have influenced his actions. Was it enough to think a black child was involved in something? Was the knowledge, which Zimmerman undoubtedly had, that the police were on their way not sufficient? If you guys don’t understand why this angers people then it’s because you’re stupid, not because they’re wrong.

  46. Because Trayvon’s alleged anger management issues are irrelevant because NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO BE A CHARACTER WITNESS AT HIS OWN MURDER TRIAL. Whether he knew Crips was irrelevant — the sole determination should be did his murderer have sufficient evidence to shoot him down in cold blood.

    All logic suggests that the answer to that is no.

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